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On March 29 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote:
100% confirmed town forever
Damdred
Vivax
Rels
Alakaslam/scott31337
Rels is confirmed town forever because he pointed something out random in kurumi's post and said WOW SO TOWNIE. You even admit you think the tone is off. But mafia can never get some piece of a post and fake a town read right? Like it seems it's the first time you are going through you confirmed town forever filter.
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On March 30 2016 13:49 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote:
100% confirmed town forever
Damdred
Vivax
Rels
Alakaslam/scott31337
Rels is confirmed town forever because he pointed something out random in kurumi's post and said WOW SO TOWNIE. You even admit you think the tone is off. But mafia can never get some piece of a post and fake a town read right? Like it seems it's the first time you are going through you confirmed town forever filter.
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On March 30 2016 19:42 Rels wrote:
Sandroba I think you're town so this is a warning: don't piss me off or that will end in a shitfight. I get angry very quickly when people lie about me. You can scumread me, you cannot say lies about me. Now the first thing you need to do is providing sources for your claim that I was trying to put suspicions on you and didn't have enough balls to commit to it.
On March 26 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 05:10 sandroba wrote:I'll keep my vote on rsoul. I'm going out now so I hope you guys lynch her. The shapelog read which I questioned I don't think was ever explained properly. The ritoky read is apparently even stronger than I thought and it looks fake to me. Again she only believes he is mafia because his "plan was bad" and "ritoky should know better" "he is balsy enough to do it as mafia" which none of it actually means someone is mafia. She is actually ignoring very good posts by ritoky which should at least make you unsure about him being mafia : On March 25 2016 04:56 ritoky wrote:
firstly LS, you need to stop taking and start giving if you ever want to even consider getting a town read from me.
it's pretty simple about rsoul though:
1) i find her game so far lacks real depth and any teeth. she has pretty much 2 reads: a) ritoky is mafia cuz he typed b) LS is town cuz he typed; the amount of players she is not evaluating or attempting to evaluate is too large. she isn't caring to look at 75% of the game and consider their alignments or push to learn anything about their alignments, her scope is too narrow.
2) she is not listening to her own read on me, which is to flip her read.
3) forcing a narrative instead of looking at a whole. primary example being that her primary scum read posted a giant post of reads which from what small indications i see in her filter, she actually agrees with quite a few of; but rather than elect to comment and evaluate the entirety of information before her, she pushes the same tired and false narrative.
4) reading LS town for old reasons. a player says "i am going to try to mess with my standard of play" and you meta read him town; i can't even. but beyond that LS has done nothing to warrant a TR from anyone. almost all he has done is ask continuation questions that aren't particularly pointed and take information without giving opinions of his own. she shouldn't ever be making that read based on his play thus far and shouldn't be making a meta read based on LS's pregame comments; so i think the read is a pile, which means both her reads are piles. On March 25 2016 05:18 ritoky wrote:
you see this is my problem with you right here and why there's a decent chance you're mafia. you're asking continuation questions but then not making definitive conclusions and you're sitting here trying to take as much information as possible without giving any. townies are givers at heart because it is all we got.
"explain pls" -> "irrelevant comment" -> "well it's okay, let me wait and get back to you later"; you concluded nothing about my or rsouls alignment from that question. this is not an isolated incident either, this is much of your filter. why ask the question if you're going nowhere with it? and shape makes a giant read post and your only thought is "explain SL" who he says pretty much "i can't properly explain this, it is meta"....that's all you cared about from that and you made no determinations about his alignment from it? really? Now her new read is kurumi is scum which is a cop out. Kurumi is very unlikely scum in this spot, and besides his posting size nothing he actually wrote is bad if you cared to read it. It's kind of unprecedented levels of effort by kurumi and I get where he is comming from when he gets angry about people attacking him for putting an effort. I don't think rsoul has even bothered to filter her own scum read, as she accused shapelog of doing. My vote stays. You quoted a post explaining how rsoul is scum and another one explaining why LS, who rsoul townreads, might be scum. Why should rsoul read these posts and be like "I was wrong rit could be town" ?
I don't think I ever answer this and no follow up.
On March 27 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:
Samdroba you came into the game late. You used the link in the op to find the day 1 post I assume ?
I answered this and no follow up.
On March 29 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 21:09 sandroba wrote:
yo kurumi what's the name of your role and what does it do? This is soooo townie. Comparing Kuru's role name with his own. Solving the game. He was already 99% town for shooting someone scum would never shoot and this seals the deal.
You and LS tipped the scales on d1 vote tube vs rsoul. I was not particularly fond of your explanation or the timing of it.
On March 26 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:00 Tubesock wrote:
Gums had votes on him already and was in danger. Why would anyone need to go all super giant case on the guy with what like 36 hours left in the day? If you are looking for someone to just lynch, then sure, secure that shit right away. But if you're town, I'd think you'd want to find out more and gain truth. The biggest thing for him being scum is this post. A lot of hours after its first reason to scumread Kurumi, tube is still stuck with the same reasonning. His scumread is not evolving with the thread. Futhermore, there is also the fact that he is so focused on only a couple people. Plus the read switch on me. Plus the "I would have scumread gumshoe if Kurumi didn't jump on him" sentence with doens't make sense.
This reasoning seems pretty flawed, tube was arguing a point, regardless if time passes scummy shit that he thinks happened don't go away. I found this very underwhelming when comparing to your arguments last game.
Also these 2 posts have me worried
On March 26 2016 05:10 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 13:25 Tictock wrote:On March 25 2016 05:44 Tictock wrote:
I'll get to reading this sometime tonight. Yea... this isn't actually happening scum!TT is tryhard. Of course he could change that for this game but I don't know why he would given being inactive is much more scummy than being tryhard. TT might be town
On March 29 2016 06:49 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!
ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol >< So this is her breadcrumbs to an engineer role. So it's 100% sure she has this kind of role and didn't invent in reaction to stutters flip. So she's kinda confirmed town I think
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On March 30 2016 20:01 Rels wrote:
VA needs to be in this list too.
I agree with the thought that Tumble is confirmed town unless Koshi is scum. If Koshi is town, TT and rsoul would have voted him over Tumble since he was more likely to be lynched.
I don't agree with this. TT had koshi as obvious town and would be very obvious mafia if he voted koshi. I don't think rsoul could pull off a koshi vote out of the blue either based on her filter. I believe scum was happy to follow town on whoever they wanted to lynch ytd.
Are you even looking at tumble's behavior here? Don't right him off as confirmed town before you read his filter and the circumstances in which the voting was done.
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On March 30 2016 20:33 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2016 13:14 ritoky wrote:On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi,justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
mafia had to save rsoul to some degree on this day; there's no way they just let a red PR go down for free on d1 when there is reasonable doubt being shown. we have 2 confirmed red and neither was a vote to save rsoul. the living people who voted to save her are OWS, kuru, koshi, rels, LS, and damd damd claimed doctor and since no1 else has said shit i am just assuming kurumi had shot refunded and shot rsoul. making them both extremely likely town. that list becomes OWS, LS, rels, koshi. probably 2 mafia in that list of 4. Hmmmm. I would say VA dares to buss but this was very nonchalant bussing. I think he would take more cred. Tumble under the non voters should also not be disregarded, even though those 2 votes on D2 on him. Meh :/. But yeah pretty insane if there is 2 mafia in ows,ls,rels and koshi because I really doubt ls is mafia, and I am preeeetttty sure I am not mafia.
I find that this is rarely the case. Normally when mafia busses early in a wagon they do it in a way that they don't really want other people to vote on it. I.e. don't make a strong argument and don't post too much about it, just like va.
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Also rels your reason for thinking I'm 99% town because I asked kurumi the name of his role, despite correct, is not something I would expect from someone that doesn't know my alignment. Same as your kurumi thing.
And apparently your kurumi town read has generated a confirmed town read from tumble on you. Don't you think that's a little bit odd?
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Yes, his reads in general seem fabricated and shallow, same thing I said very early into day 1, still has not changed.
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last game where you were lynched d1 for disapearing and I was telling everyone you were town.
Anyway I checked rsoul's and TT's filter and rsoul did throw quite a bit of dirt on tumble d1 and TT had no qualms lynching him either d2. Maybe tumble is just weird.
Also one thing both scummers have in common is they both kinda refuse to acess VA's alignment in a pretty weird fashion.
Gonna switch to VA.
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On March 25 2016 23:19 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 23:13 Superbia wrote:
rso I'm interested in your scumread on shape. Can you talk to me more about why you're reading him scum?
Also did that tumble scum-read just pop up? I don't recall you talking about him much before. nope it didn't shape's posting in general just rubs me the wrong way and of all the people reading me scum, his seemed the most contrived (and yes, i'm looking for scum on my wagon, cause duh ^^) sandy i know is paranoid of me i'm shit at reading va but i know he could think that as town so whateverrit obv is going to vote me but this just makes him more scum tbh lol >< i'm pretty sure he's the one who said that my scumplay is characterized by being passive i really can't recall who else was pushing this but you which reminds me! what is this pressure bs anyway? like it's definitely not to get me posting, but it doesn't sound like you scumread me either @.@
On March 28 2016 11:58 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 09:18 LightningStrike wrote:On March 27 2016 08:38 sandroba wrote:
@LS since you seem so sure rsoul is town it should be easier for you to come up with some sort of mafia team that doesn't include her, or even a single person you suspect of being mafia instead. I can't find any clue on your filter of who you think is mafia. Rels potentially, VA, Vivax +1. Rels usually have a stronger presence as town but activity is nay. VA not really having his usual sharpness(this is a meta read that I borrowing from kushm4sta) and all he did was pretty much complained and didn't do anything outside of that. Vivax fallen off real hard since his big spur of actvity and he is known for lurking as scum. I rather hate these reads. Rels is a straight parrot of what Damdred said earlier, and that Vivax read is super weak, kinda opportunistic too ("this dude isn't here right now! Lurking! Lets lynch"), VA is just low hanging fruit regardless of alignment
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On March 24 2016 23:59 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:43 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read Nice. I like it. Explain. Both of you - I don't like it at all. Why? Because I agreed with quite a few of her posts already. Sure, she is competent scum but I don't see why anyone would scumread her so far. Taking a look at the playerlist I have to stop the circlejerk before it gets out of control unfortunately. 50% read of ritoky is bad and already hard defending people that will never lynch her 50%
this is what rsoultin was refering to as reasoning to vote her, when she said "erm va could be town for saying that"
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Similar to what rsoul and TT behaved towards each other no really mentioning each other much or going after each other, they treat va in the same fashion. Not the sole reason I think VA is scum, but I think it's enough to tip him over other people I'm suspicious of. It fits better than tumble being scum.
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I'm assuming kurumi shot rsoul, since I didn't. That theory that all roles have counterparts is a very silly thing to cling on and derive reads from. 2 roles have counterparts, that's all we know. Palmar probably did to prove a point that role =/= alignment.
Enough about that nonsense and let's talk about how VA is scum.
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Even if kurumi comes in and says he didn't shoot rsoultin I'm still not lynching him over VA. Kurumi is historically d1 lynch bait and both rsoul AND TT called him scum multiple times and were trying to push a lynch on him. No way this guy dies before the barely mentioned straw grasping VA.
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Only way I think kurumi is mafia is if there are 2 mafia teams.
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On March 31 2016 00:12 Rels wrote:
sandroba do you know if your bullet would get refunded if yuo got roleblocked ?
Palmar actually answer me about this yesterday and he said no.
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On March 31 2016 00:14 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2016 00:11 sandroba wrote:
Even if kurumi comes in and says he didn't shoot rsoultin I'm still not lynching him over VA. Kurumi is historically d1 lynch bait and both rsoul AND TT called him scum multiple times and were trying to push a lynch on him. No way this guy dies before the barely mentioned straw grasping VA. The only reason you dont want him to die is because you guys are probably opposite roles like rsoultin/stutters.
That's a scummy scum speculation that and distortion of what I said. Also kurumi's role is different from mine according to him and I DO have another bullet.
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On March 31 2016 00:16 Damdred wrote:
I kinda think kurm is town for not claiming the shot hrmmm...
That's tricky
Damdy you disapoint me. That's terrible reason to think kurumi is town because mafia would never claim a kill they didn't make just to have another townie go AHA got u scum bitch.
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On March 31 2016 00:20 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2016 00:19 sandroba wrote:On March 31 2016 00:16 Damdred wrote:
I kinda think kurm is town for not claiming the shot hrmmm...
That's tricky Damdy you disapoint me. That's terrible reason to think kurumi is town because mafia would never claim a kill they didn't make just to have another townie go AHA got u scum bitch. What other townie ? 3 vigs is already kinda hard to believe, 4 vigs is impossible. rsoul got killed by a trap box or by SK.
If kurumi is mafia maybe he thinks I lied about my role and did it? No way he claims a kill he didn't make as any alignment.
Still I don't think he is mafia, at least not with rsoul. Probably not at all since his claim was for no benefit as scum.
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so vote VA. I'm like 92% sure he is mafia.
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On March 31 2016 00:34 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 21:28 sandroba wrote:
Your role is different than mine then. I am comissar and i can only shoot if a town was lynched the previous day.
Honestly dunno what to make of your claim or the fact that you shot koshi or the fact that he survived. Along with no mafia kp. sigh Oh that's right. Still why rescind the lie about the remaining bullet now ? What's changed since your claim that you had only 1 bullet left D2 ?
vivax said scum rb is dead
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