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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 25 2016 05:33 GMT
#961
Damdred why aren't you voting tubesock?
Retired.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2016 05:39 GMT
#962
because they are probably partners!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 05:52 GMT
#963
Fuck there is so much to read.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 25 2016 05:55 GMT
#964
On March 25 2016 14:52 sandroba wrote:
Fuck there is so much to read.


I know it's ridiculous.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 25 2016 06:01 GMT
#965
Anyways, I'm going to bed.
I'll be staying on tubesock and trying to follow along as best I can in the morning. Let's try not to hit a 100 page day 1.
Retired.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 06:15 GMT
#966
I'm gonna post ongoing comentary as I read, which probably won't be all today. The first page the most notable thing is gumshoe's post which is talking extensively about nothing. Some people also found that weird, but honestly I read that as him trying to spark some discussion and something unlikely to come from mafia (there is no pressure to post something like that so early into the game).
The first post I didn't like, which gumshoe also noticed is one from sicklucker:

On March 24 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
I also agree that talking about slam is very scummy. I have never really tried to read him esp this early!


I went back to see who SL was actually agreeing with and aparently it is no one. It's subtle the way he says gumshoe is scummy for talking about slam (?) only implying it and not taking responsability for it. He doesn't especifically says it is gumshoe who is scummy and makes sure people know it wasn't his idea. Also he makes sure to put that he would never do that because obviously he is town!

Probably not enough to make sure someone is scum, but I'll be watching SL closely in my read.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 06:26 GMT
#967
Okay I'm sold after reading page 10 I'm sold on gumshoe being townie. His tone is like too honest and straight forward. Superbia is a bit all over the place, but it doesn't seem mafiaish, he just seems to want to get something going, even if not much thought is put behind it.

Nothing wrong with ls and shape either so far. ritoky's not VT comment is pretty random though.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 06:40 GMT
#968
On page 13 and have a good town read on gumshoe and superbia. Leaning town on ls. Null on damdred and ritoky, don't know what to make of kurumi, but if you put a gun to my head I would probably say it's more likely he is town. A bit iffy on shapelog, something about how he is focusing on things that don't matter imo maybe.
Still think sicklucker is probably our best bet so far.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 06:55 GMT
#969
Page 15 and my town read on LS grows stronger when he mentions as town the only 2 people that actually diserve an actuall town read so far which are superbia and gumshoe. Vivax first post makes him a town lean aswel, but I think he has the wrong idea (as usual T_T).
ritoky slam damdred shape and now tumble still in the null territory for me.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 07:02 GMT
#970
On March 24 2016 12:12 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 09:01 Kurumi wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:59 LightningStrike wrote:
So Kurumi any other thoughts you want to share?

People should slow the hell down, I am astonished with the role talking and people manage to create another page of it.
I see nothing wrong with Superbia's early vote on gumshoe.
When did sicklucker say anything about gumshoe? He has vote on him and no posts to back it up.


i found him pretty scummy because he choose to focus on slam. I think thats very scummy. I have played like 20 games with slam and stopped trying to figure him out in like the second one. He claimed to have played with him quite a bit. Also it was like 1 hour in and i like da presure!


Gumshoe doesn't even focus on slam on his post, he mentions slam along with everybody else. I don't like what sicklucker is saying nor do I like the way he is saying it. The justification here to kurumi at this stage doesn't add up imo, seems like sicklucker is too focused on himself.
Very high chance of being mafia.

sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 07:33 GMT
#971
Read up till gumshoe died so far. It looks like slam shot him adn koshi somehow arrives at the conclusion it was ritoky. Kinda weird from koshi, but it seems like an honest mistake, not a fake dumb tell. Ritoky btw looks like is very likely townie, not really because of his vt gambit (which could be done by mafia if they had the roles early), but because of how much he believes his plan was the shit. As town we tend to think our dumb plan is so great imo =P.
Weird that slam didn't make any coments after the shot if it was him (which I'm inclined to believe). If I had to decide right here I'd say slam is scum.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 07:52 GMT
#972
I like rels, he looks a lot like last game where he was townie. I see the point on slam being town for revealing he was about to shoot and not trying to incriminate anyone. The weird think is that he said he was going to think about it and the shot went off and he apparently wasn't here anymore. Gotta wait till I read what slam has to say.
Also leaning town on kurumi a bit. Null on rso. I think rels has the wrong idea on ritoky and rso is spreading doubt a bit. Dunno. I find her hard to read.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 25 2016 07:55 GMT
#973
On March 25 2016 10:05 rsoultin wrote:
also, did slam ever say anything about whether or not he could change his shot? i didn't see anything in his filter

@slam, please answer this

You know what I actually don't know this.

I should have tried but I didn't think so at the time
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 25 2016 07:57 GMT
#974
On March 25 2016 16:52 sandroba wrote:
I like rels, he looks a lot like last game where he was townie. I see the point on slam being town for revealing he was about to shoot and not trying to incriminate anyone. The weird think is that he said he was going to think about it and the shot went off and he apparently wasn't here anymore. Gotta wait till I read what slam has to say.
Also leaning town on kurumi a bit. Null on rso. I think rels has the wrong idea on ritoky and rso is spreading doubt a bit. Dunno. I find her hard to read.

I am here for a short time AMA and I will try to answer just don't ask "why the hell you suk why you even join this you motherfukin troll you always troll that's all you do"

Because I will not stand for it. I have tried to leave twice and each time people come out of the woodwork to convince me I am overreacting
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 08:50 GMT
#975
Somehow I think sicklucker is no longer mafia after reading some of his posts up to where I am. His tone is like idgaf enough that I can see him being townie. It's not like he is trying to act a certain way, I dunno. At least it gives me pause and makes me reconsider.

I don't really love the jat/superbia/rsoul thing. I don't quite understand why jat interfered in superbia's mini push. He admits rso is good scum, he should want her to get some pressure maybe? Dunno I'm not confortable with jat or rso for that matter at all. Nothing inherently scummy about them, but also didn't jump me as town either.

Slam's comeback was kinda underwhelming and he got angry at jat's post kinda randomly. I understand it sucks being called bad or terrible, but you did shoot a townie (he probably didn't quite enjoy that either) and other town are trying to stop mafia of getting away with stuff like that. I want to say I feel like slam is actually town, I hope he explains a bit more.

Then I came across this post which is actually the reason I made this summary, to get to this point:

On March 25 2016 03:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Trying to catch up from my phone, but you're making a new post for every two I read.
I think one of Kurumi and LS is scum, because they were the gumshoe wagon starters (I don't feel comfortable scumreading either of the other two) and he was the target for a mislynch.
Also, all of you scumreading Slam for that shot are idiots. He was wrong, but he's obvious town because of it.


I think that is a pretty straight foward and simplistic reason to say someone is scum. You don't risk much, there is no behavior analysis and you don't even narrow it down to the one you do think is scum, nor explains why you excluded the other two. I guess you are on the phone and simply had to post this. But it seems like the real reason why you wanted to make this post is to say everyone scumreading slam is an idiot and you are sure he is town. You might very well be right (I think you are), but it's somewhat uncharacteristic for a townie to be so sure and give such an easy pass for someone who shot a town 5 hours into day 1. I don't think townies want to be made fools off, so that's why I find this certainty strange.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 08:54 GMT
#976
@slam I just filtered you, and you say you could only shoot day1. Why did you shoot so early into day 1, before even all players had posted?
Also one thing I don't understand regarding the circumstance. Did you send your shot through pm and went to bed? I had the impression you said you were going to reconsider it and sleep on it before you shot. What happened/made you change your mind?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 09:12 GMT
#977
On March 25 2016 05:26 ritoky wrote:
town:
ritoky
superbia
sl
shape

used to be town, but dropoff after town reads:
vivax

town leans:
jat
obi
VA

don't wanna lynch today, reluctant/hesitant town:
koshi

dunno cuz no idea what roles are in the game, townish, re-eval later:
slam

mafia leans:
LS
tumblewood

mafia:
rsoul

policy:
sandroba
ticktock

no solid opinions:
kurumi
stutters
rels (although me thinking his reads are super bad right now might be alignment indicative)
tubesock

I think ritoky stole the spot as top town, especially with the post talking to ls before this one. These reads are pretty simillar to mine so far, given some adjustments.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
March 25 2016 10:32 GMT
#978
Besides that rsoul thing I find jat quite towny, he posted/questioned some of the things I was thinking. Shape, who I was unsure about in the beggining also seems quite towny. People I don't like as town so far:

rsoul - not much follow up or questioning in her posts, still hung up on this ritoky business and also calls shape scum. Her reasoning on ritoky was that it didn't seem genuine and it his plan would never achieve nothing. W/E townie do random things, mafia rarelly does so, and mafia never tries to uncover blues like that, it's retarded. Half the townies would probably not even recognize the vehicle and then mafia would have to shoot into a big pool of people either way. Not a mafia plan and the way he felt it was so great and defended his own plan kind of proud of himself means town. Also he posted more stuff which if you cared to read are pretty townie. Other person she says may be mafia is shapelog who is one of my strongest town reads atm. And she never talks about the whole Slam deal, she doesn't talk about it seems unfased by it and doesn't seem to care what slam's alignment is. She simply ignored the event and derived some koshi superficial read from it like it meant nothing. So rsoul being terribly wrong and ignoring stuff that points to town on people means she is probably mafia.

tumblewood - he seems disconnected from the game making superficial reads. Nothing screams scum in his posting besides maybe the certainty slam is town as I mentioned previously. Not really much to say about him besides nothing he has posted so far makes me feel he is town and some of it make me feel he might be mafia.

slam - I'm back and forth on this, but his reaction does seem exagerated and over the top and his lack of explanation is disturbing to say the least.



ls and vivax kind of dropped off my town circle for a bit since vivax had a nice burst then felt like he did enough and ls is being kind of useless lately. Not sure I can read him well, I had him as town earlier but now I'm unsure.

kurumi I think is probably town. Wouldn't lynch today anyway. VA OWS and Tube, besides not posting much don't jump me as scum. Stutters and TT pretty much gave up on reading, wouldn't be surprised if at least one of them is scum.

So my prefered lynch is rsoul, but I can see lynching slam if he stays bitchy and doesn't start to provide us with answers.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2016 12:16 GMT
#979
Just woke up and sandroba just started posting o.o Seems okay for now but I only remember playing with him as scum once and and him being scum vs my town in ippo when he and yamato were up for Day 1 and they both were scum and I thought Yamato was scummier. Meh.
@anyone who is around can we talk please?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 25 2016 12:38 GMT
#980
On March 25 2016 21:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and sandroba just started posting o.o Seems okay for now but I only remember playing with him as scum once and and him being scum vs my town in ippo when he and yamato were up for Day 1 and they both were scum and I thought Yamato was scummier. Meh.
@anyone who is around can we talk please?


Just woke up and read the thread. If my old meta read is still to be applied to sandroba, he seems to be town for the sole reason of posting chaotically and even carelessly today. I think mafia sandroba is a lot more calculated. But even without meta, I think that the way he approached being late to the thread looks very townie - he dynamically posted as he read the thread, giving his thought process and evolution of views on the way. As scum I think you'd rather come with a big post and solidified reads, so it's easier to twist them instead of procedurally create them. I want to have more of Slam as well, especially because it seems I was the one to convince him that shooting gumshoe is the shot to be made.
I need to get into rsoul and tumble better, did not pay the most attention to them.
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