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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
April 03 2016 20:50 GMT
#4581
Why is VA town for you?
Minimal effort.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 03 2016 20:52 GMT
#4582
Super what exactly changed just now aside from the fact that I didn't hate your wall? Did everything else just go out the window?
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 03 2016 20:52 GMT
#4583
On April 04 2016 05:50 Superbia wrote:
Why is VA town for you?


He's null. I don't think anything of him.
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 03 2016 20:52 GMT
#4584
Idk why you guys are threatening to leave mafia because people won't listen to you (in rits case) and idk why in Ows case. Its just dumb tbh.

Anyway super of course your request is denied just like I would tell anyone if you think it's super important to spam and get 20+ pages of filter its not conceivable that someone can read it all in time for a lynch and since you spammed it it is your responsibility to answer questions that are posed to you even,if it is in your filter. You can't expect people to dig through all of that to fins it in 2-3 hours with a normal schedule.

As foe you rot I'm not fighting you on the ls front do what you want but I just won't vote him.

Now I'll read supers answer in full.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
April 03 2016 20:56 GMT
#4585
On April 04 2016 05:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Super what exactly changed just now aside from the fact that I didn't hate your wall? Did everything else just go out the window?


I wrote this up before but it looks like a poor attempt at buddying up. But whatever.

I wanted to yolo-read you town during n2. I kind of think I did, ever. Then Vivax came along with his god awful OMGUS and you soft joined that shit. I hated that. Then you were nowhere around for when kuru got demolished (afaik) and today you come up with exactly the same shit (imo) as during n2. So my read was extended-OMGUS.

I wanted to know what your next lynch besides would be so teams can be evaluated. I feel like one of those could be mafia so maybe.

The reason why I want to lynch tumblewood the most is because I want to know if my d1 read on him was correct at this point in time. Maybe LS is mafia but I actually kind of feel for the guy if he is town and rso pocketed him that hard.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
April 03 2016 20:59 GMT
#4586
ever should be iirc*
Minimal effort.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 03 2016 21:00 GMT
#4587
town:
ritoky
scott - somewhere along the line i just accepted that he is dayvig
damdred - used to doubt it, then the mod happened. blaming mod if he isn't town.

TR:
shape - other people say so, good pushes/cases on good people
VA - see my filter for read

null:
obi - surprisingly hard for me to read this game
superbia - primarily by virtue of not having time to read his filter, plus WoT wasn't awful
tumble - bad filter, but vote logic in his favor

null leaning 3p:
sl

mafia:
ls

koshi:
koshi
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 03 2016 21:02 GMT
#4588
Supers wall of text wasn't bad
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 03 2016 21:03 GMT
#4589
if you want to talk about my reasons privately damdred, i am willing to; but as for publicly i will just say that my enjoyment level has steadily declined over time and i have a daughter now who soaks up time. this game has just kinda highlighted those things for me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
April 03 2016 21:05 GMT
#4590
On April 04 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
Then tell me why I am scum

+ Show Spoiler +
Cuz i am a cop and i checked your ass last night.
...
April foolz

No there is mutiple things i find wrong with you.

First:

I find that after D1 and 2 your not so much trying to get town to figure out the major stuff. Sure you have speculated about KP, roles, what you have done, but it really is WIFOM. It is what i would think a mafia member would do to look like they are contributing.

I mean the way you were on D1 feels very very different than now. You went from trying to get info, making traps etc. to, well this.

You dropped and basically been coasting IMO.

Second:

I kinda refreshed the page so
On April 04 2016 05:28 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 05:23 Shapelog wrote:
Yeah i feel more confident now super.
Know why.

+ Show Spoiler +
Your freaking out.


I mean you can sit there, yell into the thread. It will not help anyone if you are town or scum for that matter. Instead maybe, maybe, stop calling people dumb, blah blah blah, and relax.


I am not relaxed. I have not been relaxed since EoD1. I feel like town has been made out of donkeys. I am actually extremely annoyed. From the way I see it, I should be on one of the very last spots in the lynch list. Primarily from the fact that when I was active, I have been mainly pressuring and voting mafia.

O Rly?
Tell me than, if you are so concern about the town being made of "Donkeys" then why the fuck have you spent time talking about MTG (good game) and other shit? Shouldn't you be trying to be a savior of the town?

And if you are annoyied, since EoD1 then why have you been shitting jokes like nagging falls?

I mean this ties into number one, you see a problem, but instead of fixing it or trying to convert people(?) you just have been sitting back and joking around till someone pokes you.

On March 31 2016 20:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2016 20:45 sandroba wrote:
On March 31 2016 20:37 ritoky wrote:
sandroba who are your top 2 non-kurumi mafia reads? you can explain if you want, more interested in the names though.

erm
Not considering setup, teams or anything I think VA and tumble are both suspicious.
I'm interested also in what superbia is eventually going to claim and the resolution of the damdred thing.
prob just need to wait for kurumi to flip and see if he is indeed part of rsoul/tt team which I kinda doubt tbh. If he is their strat was bus each other since d1 when there are 2 teams and that seems very silly.


I'm claiming mystery role 'x'.

I am claiming mystery role 'y'.

Third
Your not actually solving the game since Rsoul flipped. And if you are counting your KP discussion, then you should remember that your buddy talking to you about it was IIRC Kuru. The guy who claimed scum.

On April 04 2016 01:20 Superbia wrote:
I'm gonna go off a bit of a rant here. Mostly because I want to chill with my gf tonight so I won't be around to play.



It's pretty simple: Anyone who wants to lynch me is a fucking idiot.

I have fucked confirmed mafia in the ass throughout the game. And possibly fucked a town (Koshi), who has been mafia-siding throughout the game.

So you have to believe I am 3rd party. Yet I openly discuss 3rd party KP previous day and was the one who brought it up. Actively promoting the fact that rso was shot by third party to deny kurumi his claim. Which is pretty much the dumbest play ever as 3rd party. Like what would be my plan there? Put me on the map to take down a mafia? Who just got fucked in the ass the previous day/night? nice_play.exe

I played a lazy town game. I'm continuing to playing an even lazier towngame. That's it.

I want to lynch:
- Tumblewood (everyone seems to want to lynch this guy but no one actually seems to want to lynch this guy).
- Obi (tunneled on me for no good reason)
- VA (meh).

- One between:
--- Ritoky (maybe 3rd party)
--- Koshi (if Ritoky ends up being town/more town, for mafia siding so hard/being so wrong throughout the game)

- Maybe lightningstrike (but probably can't).


So, you know. Probably follow my reads if you want to win the game as town.

Ok so page 21, a list of reads. the 1st few paragraphs are defense from you.
2 out of the 3 are omnithought of as lynch targets, minus a person or so that might think different. the one that is not super popular is one based on OMGUS located in the post the next page over.

Not only that, but your reasoning to wanting to vote VA in tis post was "meh" to say the least.

Your last page of content not revoving around KP discussion or popular thread ideas are this from page 20:
On March 31 2016 06:12 Superbia wrote:
I have overlapped my current townreads with the votes (underlined = flipped, italics = read):

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On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount

Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi

Not Voting (4): Stutters695, TicTock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood


Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 2 Final Votecount

TicTock (9): Vivax, LightningStrike, Shapelog, Rels, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Koshi, rsoultin, Tumblewood
Koshi (5): sicklucker, justanothertownie, Superbia, sandroba, Vivax, Kurumi, Tumblewood, sicklucker
rsoultin (2): sicklucker, sandroba, Koshi, ritoky, Alakaslam, sicklucker, Vivax. Shapelog, Tumblewood, Vivax
Tumblewood (2): VayneAuthority, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Koshi, Vivax, TicTock, rsoultin
Kurumi (0): rsoultin
sandroba (0): Alakaslam
TicTock (0): Vivax
Superbia (0): Koshi

Not Voting (0):



Which leaves me with the following lynches:
- VayneAuthority
- ObiWanShinobi
- LightningStrike
- Tumblewood
- Kurumi

Of these, I do not want to lynch Kurumi today.

Some notes:
- Sicklucker's vote timing on rso makes it so he's pretty much never with rso.
- I had no initial read on shapelog, but his interactions on the rso train d2 are pretty damn town (was adamant on rso, then switched to TT quite naturally).
- Koshi's wagon on d2 actually looks almost completely town. Especially if Kurumi (and to an extend TW) ends up being town. This definitely needs some looking into when more flips are known. KEEP THIS IN MIND. I am likely wrong on either someone voting on Koshi or on Koshi.
- VA has been voting superearly on scummy people (one confirmed in RSO), but I generally cannot remember the explanation. Could be some soft distance. Would like to know from people who usually play with VA.
- I don't think TumbleWood is in the rso/TT team. But I do think he could be independently mafia (3rd party/whatever).
- Obi was teaming up with Koshi and Vivax during n2 to pressure me. While Koshi's read has progressed naturally, Obi's pressure is nowhere to be seen.
- LS is mainly POE. I don't actually have a good read on him this game.
- Sleeper mafia/third party would likely be either Rels or Ritoky. But this is tinfoil for later.

Whats actually funny here is that you seemed to forgot the reason why obi looked sus to you in favor for a OMGUS read. Like you could of gone, "ok i find this sus, let me check his filter. Check filter. Here are X, Y, And Z posts that support A"

But you didn't you have just degrade into this:
- Obi (tunneled on me for no good reason)

On April 04 2016 01:44 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 01:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Super, who exactly is mafia and why?
Come up with cases and stuff because this ranting isn't going to do anything for me.


Oh I don't care. You're probably one of them. Your presence has involved siding with a PR on a town (me). Then afking through yesterday (don't even recall what you were doing). Then continuing the push today. Tumblewood is nowhere to be found which indicates he's not interested in the game anymore. Which is pretty shit play if you're one of the last left. Either way he's playing a losing game. But you know, he has to be flipped at some point.


like who goes "I think you are scum, but I ain't going to case you." Like you can't even stay on that topic of OWS being scum in that post, you redirect it into tumble.

You even frenking contricit yourself by saying tumble's activity would make for a shit mafia play. And that hes got to be flipped. Its not like Rik's or anyone elses who actually have a nice text body on the guy.

You basically, again, coasting.

[b]Third and a half[b]
You slipped sson.
On April 02 2016 07:10 Superbia wrote:
2 kp through medic save means roleblock or double stack. Which indicates 2nd mafia team. But that can't be possible.

Even if you take into account the N1 actions (which really do not matter in the end here)


Damdred supposedly stopped a shot on JAT?
Sl supposedly stopped a mafia KP?
Sand Shot.
Kuru carried Kp that got stoped.

Even if you did not believe the claim from SL, that is still 2 KP. If you beleive all claims, then it is actually 3.
N2, Jat and Vivax died, rsoul died.
2 kp, with something happening with Rsoul dieing either by invention or kp or whatever,
Last night.
3 Kp or 2 kp and RB.

IT LINES UP unless Jat was not shot by mafia and saved by damdred.

So that is a moot defense.

But really, you go "Hmmm, here are possible things that could happen that could happen" -> "would mean we have 2 teams" -> "impossible for 2 teams" in one post. Only POV that works in is as a second mafia team.

Which means.
[spoiler=off topic but important]
which means, if you are actually 2nd team, then where in the hell did that shot/rb come from. Obv it was not from your team (yes i am making that assumption.) so somewhere a person rbed or shot at Rels.
hmm.
[/spoiler]


I think your scum because of this.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
April 03 2016 21:07 GMT
#4591
I think people should re-evaluate on VA. But I understand this isn't happening right now.

I think Obi may be town.

Tumble or LS sounds fine.

Ritoky mirroring my thoughts this game is town.

3rd party is not in Tumble/LS. Pretty sure.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
April 03 2016 21:09 GMT
#4592
I don't even know what you wrote shape, but it annoys me. =/
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
April 03 2016 21:10 GMT
#4593
I understand that you may be coming off on a high on your kurumi case. But you just gave mafia a reason to vote. =/
Minimal effort.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
April 03 2016 21:10 GMT
#4594
On April 04 2016 06:09 Superbia wrote:
I don't even know what you wrote shape, but it annoys me. =/

Da fuq?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 03 2016 21:10 GMT
#4595
I will say it's possible only two kp happened n2. I don't think it's worth talking about yet and only conjection but possible
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
April 03 2016 21:11 GMT
#4596
On April 04 2016 06:10 Damdred wrote:
I will say it's possible only two kp happened n2. I don't think it's worth talking about yet and only conjection but possible


Poison? Or some role shit?

I actually think engineer was probably some straight forward role like jailkeeper or something. I don't think palmar makes up some 50% random item bullshit that may backfire.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
April 03 2016 21:12 GMT
#4597
On April 04 2016 06:10 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 06:09 Superbia wrote:
I don't even know what you wrote shape, but it annoys me. =/

Da fuq?


It's wrong. =/
Minimal effort.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 03 2016 21:12 GMT
#4598
SL, why are you not invested in this deadline? you did this last game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
April 03 2016 21:13 GMT
#4599
On April 04 2016 06:10 Superbia wrote:
I understand that you may be coming off on a high on your kurumi case. But you just gave mafia a reason to vote. =/

Wait wait wait,
you haven't read it, annoyied with it. and are going to turn around and say it is wrong and that mafia is going to sheep me.
ok,.
wait, let me bus this out.
[image loading]
oops wrong one
Eh i find it later.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 03 2016 21:13 GMT
#4600
On April 04 2016 06:11 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 06:10 Damdred wrote:
I will say it's possible only two kp happened n2. I don't think it's worth talking about yet and only conjection but possible


Poison? Or some role shit?

I actually think engineer was probably some straight forward role like jailkeeper or something. I don't think palmar makes up some 50% random item bullshit that may backfire.


Possibly both, there still could of been three shots but we won't know until we get another flip of scum/sk.
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