On April 04 2016 06:32 Tumblewood wrote:
In retrospect, though, that was pretty unfair because I'm basically locking you down from proving yourself

And that is really scummy.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

April 03 2016 21:33 GMT

#4622

On April 04 2016 06:15 Tumblewood wrote:
- asks "why am I scum?"
- annoyed that someone responded by making a case
checks out

this is the same style opportunistic attempted bury post you had about me earlier...the "ritoky is digging deeper" or w/e style post......they are real bad.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

April 03 2016 21:34 GMT

#4623

Where the hell is Obi? Where the fuck did he go after "that wall wasn't too bad".

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

April 03 2016 21:35 GMT

#4624

But I don't think you can prove yourself town by listing all the things that happen that "wouldn't happen if you were scum".

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

April 03 2016 21:37 GMT

#4625

On April 04 2016 06:35 Tumblewood wrote:
But I don't think you can prove yourself town by listing all the things that happen that "wouldn't happen if you were scum".

This is not what I did though. I explained my important thought processes throughout the game and elaborated on the mindset. I explained what I did that I believe was alignment indicative, why I did them, and why I think it shows that I'm town

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

April 03 2016 21:37 GMT

#4626

I'm not going to lie. If Obi doesn't show up to explain his vote or change his vote, you guys need to kill him tomorrow 100%. No fucking question.

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

April 03 2016 21:38 GMT

#4627

On April 04 2016 06:33 ritoky wrote:

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this is the same style opportunistic attempted bury post you had about me earlier...the "ritoky is digging deeper" or w/e style post......they are real bad.

Are we getting into the "Tumblewood opportunistic" reads again?
Also @Super: I do think you can defeat a scum case on yourself with a rebuttal.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

April 03 2016 21:39 GMT

#4628

On April 04 2016 06:38 Tumblewood wrote:

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Are we getting into the "Tumblewood opportunistic" reads again?
Also @Super: I do think you can defeat a scum case on yourself with a rebuttal.

Yes, I can. I can do anything. But that doesn't mean I'm mafia.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

April 03 2016 21:40 GMT

#4629

I'm voting lightningstrike because he may be scum and because I want to save myself.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

April 03 2016 21:40 GMT

#4630

There are 2 AFK voters on me: VA and Obi. Look into them tomorrow. They are very likely lurking right now.

Shapelog

United States5188 Posts

April 03 2016 21:41 GMT

#4631

On April 04 2016 06:23 Superbia wrote:

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I think I covered a fair amount in your case in my "wall".

I just read it over and here are some general points of rebuttal from what I recall:
- n1 wouldn't have been 1 town KP (now confirmed town KP) if there are 2 mafia teams. Ever.
- Trailing off is not alignment indicative of me.
- I loathe filters and huge posts. I have said this before and will continue saying this. I started off my mafia career checking all filters all the time but have grown more lazy over time. This is mostly due to the fact that my gut-reads are almost always correct. What ends up happening is the following:
- I usually recall things from the top of my head, and I don't end up double checking them in thread. The inconsistencies you point out on my read on obi are minor and due to this- The mindset behind it stays the same, but the textual explanation is a little different.
- I always have to reverse-logic together why that person is scum to convince town. Usually this is not that hard to do when I have the energy, but when I'm lazy/tired, I just prefer to call them scum. Sometimes with a shitty/lazy reason. Sometimes with none.

points 1, 3, 4, 5 were not covered or did not meet shapelog standards. And those are low standards.
anyways,

Yes ever, theoretically if both SL and Damdred and vivax did their jobs, Kuru carried to koshi and was rbed by vivax, Sl taking a shot, damdred healing Jat who got hit. If all those are true (or even 2/3s), then it IS possible for that senerio to do that.

Sadly lost the ability to argue that meta does not matter this game b/c tumble. And your point is fair here.

following what? anyways, i do not understand how reading has to do with providing content. If you do have gut reads, you should be like a koshisus and shoved it down peoples throats. It might explain a bit, but you should IMO have more.

So it is minor that you went from "Obi is sus. due to this voting thing i found." -> "obi is sus. because he tunneled onto me" -> "Obi is sus. due to OMGUS reasons?" Maybe this is a playstyle choice though so i let it slide.

I mean, i also have crazy wackworld convincing methods. And i do not mind it. What i do mind however is if your lazy/tired for multiple cycles and pages of filter.