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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 02 2016 05:09 GMT
#4261
On April 02 2016 13:25 sicklucker wrote:
I would be down to lynch koshi tbh . I know its not happening but hes either town with every wrong read (literraly everyone its amazing ) or third party.

And hes much more likely to be mafia with rstou/kura then someone like ritoky who he thinks is an auto lynch? like get out of here


So you assume 3rd party now for sure?

I really think you are the 3rd party...
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 02 2016 05:09 GMT
#4262
and third party wants and needs to lynch me to win
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 02 2016 05:10 GMT
#4263
On April 02 2016 14:09 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2016 13:59 ritoky wrote:
why the fuck is SL alive?


is this really a qeustion? mafia would never risk having a kp stopped this deep in the game


they supposedly bypassed kp or stacked with the sk....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 02 2016 05:10 GMT
#4264
bypassed protection
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 02 2016 05:11 GMT
#4265
On April 02 2016 14:08 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2016 13:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 02 2016 12:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 02 2016 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I thought the kills were both pretty obvious and don't really implicate anyone tbh.

What you pretty obvious? Rels was still a question mark for some people while Damdred is a claimed blue yet Damdred didn't die.


Damdred not dying is the biggest question mark, as is his claimed protect on Rels and his subsequent miss.
Why exactly Rels would be shot over the claimed doctor that initiated a switch on mafia on day 2 is...More than a little bit strange tbh.


what i dont get is if hes not acualy a doctor why he would claim the save on rels and not someone else


WIFOM shot man. You are good at reading other sides way better than I do - you don't see this one yet?
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 02 2016 05:12 GMT
#4266
Im obviously suspicious read my posts
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 02 2016 05:13 GMT
#4267
On April 02 2016 14:01 ritoky wrote:
so mafia allegedly has a means to bypass protection, either through roleblock, strongman, or doublestack.....and they don't shoot damdred, or bypass SL's protection?


good point if they had a role blocker I would probably be a nk so I sapose they dont
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 02 2016 05:13 GMT
#4268
oh wait this can make sense to me now. okay....

mafia kp1 -> rels
mafia kp2 -> sandroba
sk kp -> rels
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 02 2016 05:14 GMT
#4269
but if theres 2 different faction with kp they can be wifming each other and trying not to stack and who knows maybe thats why they stacked. I rememered from pyp not to think that much of the nk targets in a 2 faction game because both mafia teams ca simply think the other mafia team would target the obvious person like dandred. so both teams could trick themselves into not killing dandred because of this
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 02 2016 05:14 GMT
#4270
I'm down for LS, besides Rsoul/Tina - he has a love for Damdred and not defending him now.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 02 2016 05:16 GMT
#4271
You can call it WIFOM all you want but Rels died for a reason even when a few town folk questioned him.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 02 2016 05:16 GMT
#4272
Also I highly doubt any faction would deliberately stack rels. If it was a stack I doubt it would be from mafia UNLESS there trying to pretend they have 1kp so people forget about them and go on a witchhunt. man this is complicated
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 02 2016 05:18 GMT
#4273
i actually don't remember a single original thought of LS's this game....

i am trying to recall one, but i can't....i remember him asking a bunch of questions that went nowhere, never giving reads, talking about rsoul a lot, then raging....that's all i remember and he has like 20 pages.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 02 2016 05:19 GMT
#4274
no kidding
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 02 2016 05:20 GMT
#4275
Koshi I need you to get off your three day binge of whatever you have been on and help me figure this shit out.

Shapelog could be playing a massive game, but he's really my top town with the vote and case.

Shapelog I want your thoughts too.

The mafia are trying hard.
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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 02 2016 05:23 GMT
#4276
or they are just not trying hard. I could go either way but I dont think its in the middle lol
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 02 2016 05:26 GMT
#4277
Sl

Ritoky

Who do you want to lynch then? top two priority
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 02 2016 05:33 GMT
#4278
Tumblewood:

this post reads very mafia:

On March 24 2016 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
ritoky's in the hole and keeps digging...


he comments later about not understanding why. it is because it does nothing. there's no town motivation to this post. it simply is opportunisticly pushing on a player under pressure. now i am biased cuz it was me, but essentially; you're not furthering the case on me, you're not voting on me, you're not contributing a real point of view or new information, so why make this post? what is there to contribute or gain from making this post? it has no point other than to try and get on the good side of things and ride the current.

I am on the fence on this one, it is either very mafia or complete newb:

On March 25 2016 12:25 Tumblewood wrote:
I feel like I need a justification every time I'm AFK.


you also didn't understand later why this post can be read mafia i think. the reason is that you're scared. townies, like take me for example, have a certain bravado or confidence about themselves. they know they are town so how could anyone possibly read them as anything but what they are? they speak their minds openly and without fear of the retribution; and when people scum read them most of the time there is a significant emotional response cuz what the fuck are these idiots doing they are obviously town. this post demonstrates that you're scared of being scum read which in essence is a scum mindset. you feel like you need excuses or people will call you scum, but that is a thought that shouldn't even be on a townie's mind.

a non-specific note: you use the word insightful a ton...and i believe english is your primary language. being redundant on explaining reads and verbage can be mafia indicative for people, not enough experience with you to make that call.

There's a lot wrong with these reads:

On March 26 2016 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:
"Wake up, town" reads list
VayneAuthority - idk how anyone is TRing him. He was here for a little bit and now he'll miss all of this phase. That's NAI at best.
Kurumi - He's almost comically angry. I'm kinda just sheeping Rels on this and
Damdred - His reads are really shallow, like "LS obv town" and nothing else. His D1 scumlist also sucked-- 2 plynches, tubesock, and kurumi (the only one who even kinda goes against what people think) [and me but with a disclaimer]. ALSO one time he said there's one scum between me and Tube because of some nonexistent exchange between us. k i'm done now i swear
sandroba - Making the same reads as everyone else (when present), but for much worse reasons
ObiWanShinobi - he hasn't been present much, but I like the quality of his reads
Koshi - people are like "oh angry koshi = town koshi" but his displays of emotion so far have been utterly fakeable
Rels - he's been insightful this game and actually has original, non-obvious reads which are hard to fake when you're not looking for something
justanothertownie - I don't want to read his filter so I'm just going to say he's being aggressive and leave it at that.
ritoky - Either obv town or obv scum and I can't tell which is which
sicklucker - Doesn't he on D1 act scummy even as town? If not everyone in Devil Inside Mafia lied to me.
Alakaslam - he's a vig
Shapelog - He blends in far more than he usually does. Usually when he blends in it's because I'm ignoring all his posts, but this time it's because I don't notice it's him. Even though he has a 7-page filter, it seems he's not putting very much effort into the game.
Vivax - he's doing a pretty alright job, y'know?
rsoultin - I was really on the fence about this earlier but with Tubesock turning up town I think rsoul is also town.
LightningStrike - One time I played with someone who was obvious town in his first game. LS is playing the same way, except it's not his first game. This makes him ???
Superbia - He's attacking the game in unorthodox ways, which I think is townie, if that makes sense.


specifically town leans on 2 confirmed mafia, no stance on me, no town read on jat who was shitting town out of his eyes, and really weird reads on damdred and sandroba....particularly sandroba who i believe had claimed vigi at this point.....but you believed slam's claim easily? that doesn't make a ton of sense.

then when you get to your VA case you say this:

On March 30 2016 09:49 Tumblewood wrote:

He had a lot of reasons to choose from to scumread me, and he chose:


like what? there are no valid reasons to scum read you if you're town. they're all shit. that line implies there are good reasons out there to scum read you but VA just didn't pick the right ones. that might just be picking on a newb though.

dunno i have had really good newbdar recently (not saying you're new necessarily, but new to playing with me)....and it isn't blinking overwhelmingly town here like it has past. what he has going for him is that we shennanied off of him onto mafia...mind you if he is mafia that means 3 of the 4 wagons day 2 were mafia (with koshi being unknown) which is a really good thing.

dunno slight mafia lean, would think more mafia but has good vote logic going for him.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
April 02 2016 05:40 GMT
#4279
Va filter for sandroba - shit - check votes
On March 31 2016 00:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
eh whatever kurumi or sandroba is scum, lynching outside them is idiocy but im sure it will happen



LS-
On March 26 2016 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 06:04 Shapelog wrote:
On March 26 2016 05:57 LightningStrike wrote:a
On March 26 2016 05:53 Shapelog wrote:
On March 26 2016 05:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2016 05:31 Shapelog wrote:
On March 26 2016 05:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys who should I vote and why?

You should vote Rsoul for the reasons i stated. the bigger question is, Who do you think you should lynch? Which player is the most scummist in your eyes and why?

I don't think Tina is scum tone says town. Idk who to lynch hence why I asked.

Well do you find anyones play so far scummy? anybody you don't mind lynching?
Anything other than nulls or townreads?

Maybe Tubesock? Idk man I don't want to lynch Tina atm >.< To many inactives in the game some might be scum some might be town just wish they would post more for us to figure out their alignment

On March 26 2016 00:49 LightningStrike wrote:
List of Town that I got from my filter:
Gumshoe: Flipped plus I was startign to get town vibes from him after some interactions with him.
Superbia: Despite falling off he still was pretty tryhard trying to solve the game.
JAT: Meta he pointing smart things and dumb things and exlpains why they are dumb or smart.
Koshi: Angry Koshi is Town Koshi from experience with him.
Damdred: Seems okay content wise not lynching him Day 1 just hope he would produce even townier rainbows.
Tina(rsoultin if people need her TL name): Guts and feeling says town on her tone.
Shape: Little spammy town maybe idk he kinda weird now that he played as scum but it feels innocent?
Slam: If I wrong on any of my townreads it's slam and he would probably be 3rd Party due to his role.
List of Null:
Lurkers: Duh although stutters had 1 post and not returned after that post.
sicklucker: Rip ability to read him.

roughly 6 of your town reads are "active people" Math states that at least 1 to 2 people. But lets ignore that.
LS what from Tubesock do you read as scummy. And if you feel like it, what are your thoughts on tumble/Kuru?

His vote for sandroba rubbed me the wrong way. Like he was looking for a excuse to vote someone. Kuru I have as town I just forgot to include him in the list >.< Tumble null maybe leaning town he seemed like a Newbie as far I can tell based on post count but also he seemed to act like one too but some of his complaining seemed to be townie.


That's townie to me.

On March 27 2016 08:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2016 08:04 Koshi wrote:
That being said. He was still town and there isn't mafia kp. So nha, sandroba mafia.
Goddamnit but why claim it :/

Why would mafia!sandroba shoot stutters?


+1

On March 30 2016 09:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Decided to play some league of legends and I finally cooled off. I hope I don't get modkilled now :\ Sandroba I do say very mean stuff when I angry so I sorry but your sudden read change is so odd hence why I called it stupid ONEGUS because of me defending Tina all game long. I might just like her to much
Anyways Damdred is telling the truth he actually did coach me through my last scum game and the reason I pissed other than this game was I had to deal with 2 exams in the last 48 hours so yeah I tired and pissed outside of this game.


...

Damdred -

Speaks very little of

a null post of
On March 25 2016 03:49 Damdred wrote:
VayneAuthority
Kurumi
Stutters695
sandroba
Rels
Tictock
Tumblewood
Tubesock

Right now I think most of the scum is in this list so far, or at least people I would think about lynching today. Kurumi, VA and Rels are sort of fringe being off the list just because I think they seem like they could be useful if they are town down the road so far. Rels is pretty idk difficult right now he doesn't have a few of his town things he generally does going for him.

The others are an assortment of policy/low volume/failure to postings/no real smart things so far.



"Interesting"

OWS-

weak -
On March 25 2016 21:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Sandroba is probably town.
Too much going on in his posts for him to be mafia.


I can't let OWS ride his townride anymode from his filter -

No mention of TicTock (and checked for TT too)

rSOUL checks came up with posts like -
On March 29 2016 03:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 03:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
going to vote for tumblewood now I think he is the highest chance to flip mafia. If nothing happens im going back to policying rsoultin for circlejerk and added benefit of info.


You know what? I can also do this.


Tumblewood - this post is his most info

On March 26 2016 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:
"Wake up, town" reads list
VayneAuthority - idk how anyone is TRing him. He was here for a little bit and now he'll miss all of this phase. That's NAI at best.
Kurumi - He's almost comically angry. I'm kinda just sheeping Rels on this and
Damdred - His reads are really shallow, like "LS obv town" and nothing else. His D1 scumlist also sucked-- 2 plynches, tubesock, and kurumi (the only one who even kinda goes against what people think) [and me but with a disclaimer]. ALSO one time he said there's one scum between me and Tube because of some nonexistent exchange between us. k i'm done now i swear
sandroba - Making the same reads as everyone else (when present), but for much worse reasons
ObiWanShinobi - he hasn't been present much, but I like the quality of his reads
Koshi - people are like "oh angry koshi = town koshi" but his displays of emotion so far have been utterly fakeable
Rels - he's been insightful this game and actually has original, non-obvious reads which are hard to fake when you're not looking for something
justanothertownie - I don't want to read his filter so I'm just going to say he's being aggressive and leave it at that.
ritoky - Either obv town or obv scum and I can't tell which is which
sicklucker - Doesn't he on D1 act scummy even as town? If not everyone in Devil Inside Mafia lied to me.
Alakaslam - he's a vig
Shapelog - He blends in far more than he usually does. Usually when he blends in it's because I'm ignoring all his posts, but this time it's because I don't notice it's him. Even though he has a 7-page filter, it seems he's not putting very much effort into the game.
Vivax - he's doing a pretty alright job, y'know?
rsoultin - I was really on the fence about this earlier but with Tubesock turning up town I think rsoul is also town.
LightningStrike - One time I played with someone who was obvious town in his first game. LS is playing the same way, except it's not his first game. This makes him ???
Superbia - He's attacking the game in unorthodox ways, which I think is townie, if that makes sense.


Superbia - hmm - posts a lot to rsoul - like

On March 24 2016 22:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 22:50 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it, i don't respond to terrorists ^^

##vote ritoky

nh, super, dude, losing patience @.@ "reactive" obv means emotional posting and i have a hard time seeing how you wouldn't have an idea on koshi after you've been around this long


Are you 3rd party?


Others are way more suspicious.

I'll do more fishing tomorrow.
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 02 2016 05:40 GMT
#4280
On April 02 2016 14:26 scott31337 wrote:
Sl

Ritoky

Who do you want to lynch then? top two priority


i am trying to work my way through filters. i will hopefully arrive somewhere substantive by the end of it.

personally i think damdred needs to explain his role and i am considering mounting massive vote pressure to do it....i need to do the math to see how close we are to lylo though to see if it is okay to wait another phase....i really don't want to though.

outside of damdred, i am not particularly fond of LS and tumble; i think there isn't an unreasonable chance sl is 3p but again...not through filters so that is subject to change.

+ Show Spoiler +
deep inside i want to lynch koshi.....so desperately
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