TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3 - Page 213

On April 02 2016 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I thought the kills were both pretty obvious and don't really implicate anyone tbh.

On April 02 2016 09:55 ritoky wrote:
VA:

Town meta - he posted a blanket statement about someone being town or mafia in his first 5 posts:



From there he continued to push his rsoul read, and it aligned very much with mine -





Both of which I firmly agreed with. Rsoul was clearly pandering to people who would never vote for her anyway due to pure personality stuff to make sure they were on her side and blind to what she was doing. The fact that she pandered so hard to LS too might clear him slightly; dunno I will see when I get to him.

This is a little concerning considering at one point rsoul was in very real threat of lynch, she was VA's top scum read or near top scum read and he didn't budge from tumble onto her.



And his explanation for not moving is the people who voted on rsoul not looking great:



Those people at the time were: me (VT), slam (claimed dayvig), SL (claimed vet), vivax (town), shapelog, and tumble. That is 1 obvious town, 2 claims, 1 guy tunneling the same read as you, 1 guy you never mentioned, and tumble; and they are voting on your top scum read thus far. That doesn't seem like a particular clusterfuck of people. This is kinda sketchy.



I remember mind-melding this post when he made it. Because kurumi posted some pretty obscenely bad reads that I thought were just too bad. But now in hindsight this looks worse. You scum read rsoul all game, then elect to not vote on her for questionable reasons instead voting on the guy who got shennanied off of to lynch mafia; then you are defending another mafia immediately after.

But then the convo afterwards doesn't sound like a conversation that kurumi has with a partner in thread. It is too scattered to quote it fully, but basically kurumi calls VA opportunistic for town reading him and shitting on his reads post and immediately starts trying to omgus fight with him to which VA says your reads are stupid because you think rsoul and ritoky are together and they never are. Further koshi joining in the shit on ritoky fest just seems needless and dumb so he isn't on a team with them either. Which feels like both a really good observation and not a conversation partners have in thread. My sketched level is slightly lowered.

Post-TT he flips his read on rsoul because:




Which I can understand to a degree; he then is humongously in favor of a kurumi lynch the following phase after rsoul has died.



This is also an incredibly town post since I understand it and have been openly incredibly confused by the setup.



Yea I think he is town, sorry for doubting you on your wishy-washy rsoul read.



Yup, antagonistic playstyle is more town indicative of VA imo



VA feels town to me. The only part I have doubts on is where he got a little wishy-washy and was randomly not voting rsoul for bad reasons even though she was a top scum read of his. The problem with that is that if that makes him mafia, then he is supposedly mafia with rsoul and kurumi; who he scum read most of the game and then advocated a lynch for. So I don't see him being scum with them. Maybe if it is proven to be 2 teams I need to reconsider this read, but I feel comfortable with it for now and I am kinda on the mafia team of 5 + sk bandwagon in my mind atm.

On April 02 2016 12:55 LightningStrike wrote:

What you pretty obvious? Rels was still a question mark for some people while Damdred is a claimed blue yet Damdred didn't die.

On April 02 2016 13:25 sicklucker wrote:
I would be down to lynch koshi tbh . I know its not happening but hes either town with every wrong read (literraly everyone its amazing ) or third party.

And hes much more likely to be mafia with rstou/kura then someone like ritoky who he thinks is an auto lynch? like get out of here

On April 02 2016 13:34 Tumblewood wrote:
I oppose that VA townread on so many levels.
First, the scum points are really detailed and logical, but the town points are all [but one] explained by meta or not at all. I also feel that there were some seriously scummy things in his filter that were overlooked. Of course, our reads won't be identical, but there's more scum points to VA than just his D2 vote.
...Now that I get down to it, I really only disagree on one level, and that level is, "VA is scum and you're wrong." For more explanation on your wrongness, please see the big ol' scum case in my filter.

On April 02 2016 14:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
It's a mystery.
I'd sass more but this is probably the part where we start acting super paranoid about our blue claims so let's do it.

Did you ever have SL as town at some point?

On April 02 2016 08:54 Damdred wrote:
I'd bet on mafia having 2 members left and an sk/assassin who was blocked by Tt n1.

Oh well, I think it's likely rit is the sk I don't think he's mafia exactly but I don't think town

On April 02 2016 13:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Damdred not dying is the biggest question mark, as is his claimed protect on Rels and his subsequent miss.
Why exactly Rels would be shot over the claimed doctor that initiated a switch on mafia on day 2 is...More than a little bit strange tbh.

On April 02 2016 13:59 ritoky wrote:
why the fuck is SL alive?