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On March 30 2016 07:22 sicklucker wrote:so geuss what guys? We know who mafia is again. Day 1 vote Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Day 2+ Show Spoiler [previous day's final votecounts] +
Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
so obi kura koshi rels ls and dandred voted to save rstoulin but. Day 2 Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 2 Final Votecount
Tictock (9): Vivax, LightningStrike, Shapelog, Rels, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Koshi, rsoultin, Tumblewood
Koshi (5): sicklucker, justanothertownie, Superbia, sandroba, Vivax, Kurumi, Tumblewood, sicklucker
rsoultin (2): sicklucker, sandroba, Koshi, ritoky, Alakaslam, sicklucker, Vivax. Shapelog, Tumblewood, Vivax
Tumblewood (2): VayneAuthority, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Koshi, Vivax, Tictock, rsoultin
Kurumi (0): rsoultin
sandroba (0): Alakaslam
Tictock (0): Vivax
Superbia (0): Koshi
Not Voting (0):
Day 2 ends in .
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Ls dandred and rels voted to kill mafia. So this leads me to believe that obi/koshi/kura have a shitty ass track record. Now the whole koshi/kura confusses me and one is ikely town so for now I think todays vote should be very easy based on vote logic ##vote obiwans
I dont like this at all - when I read day 2 (i looked ahead at the flip for the last half) Obi was one of the FIRST for a TT lynch - I'm pretty sure he is town - look at his filter.
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ritoky - town
damdred - town cuz claim; only revisit if 3 nights later is still alive
sl - town cuz claim + diff play from when mafia + telling rsoul in thread "your best bet it to push rels" would have just posted that in qt
kurumi - town under the assumption shot rsoul
sandroba - town cuz claiming shot there only makes sense from onegu style mafia, sandro doesn't strike me as 1gu style
tumblewood - town cuz votes unless koshi is red
kinda my headspace
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i think the vote count day 1 is the most important.
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On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi,justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
mafia had to save rsoul to some degree on this day; there's no way they just let a red PR go down for free on d1 when there is reasonable doubt being shown. we have 2 confirmed red and neither was a vote to save rsoul.
the living people who voted to save her are OWS, kuru, koshi, rels, LS, and damd
damd claimed doctor and since no1 else has said shit i am just assuming kurumi had shot refunded and shot rsoul. making them both extremely likely town.
that list becomes OWS, LS, rels, koshi. probably 2 mafia in that list of 4.
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On March 30 2016 10:05 sandroba wrote:
@tumble please explain and exemplify your strong town read on rels.
Also when you asked those questions didn't you have any intent behind them? Why do you think your questions were subpar?
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On March 25 2016 06:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 06:13 Kurumi wrote:On March 24 2016 23:42 Superbia wrote:
What's the average mafia count in a 21 player game? Assuming there is 3rd party and stuff too (I'm assuming there is). The formula is usually Players/5 rounded down, so that'd be 4 Mafia this game, was there a third party in either of Storm Mafias? On March 25 2016 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.
I don't understand this paragraph at all. Why does mafia need to follow up on this? The logical/natural thing for them to do if slam is in fact mafia is to wait and see how well it goes/if he gets away with it before acting. Well, I think that they'd use the momentum created by the shot to some end. I have not seen that in the thread, people are not really reading Slam as scum, people are not super focused on people who were pushing gumshoe, I think if Mafia shot gum, they'd want the discussion to be on those points, not any others like we have right now. That's just the world I am in. On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.
Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.
Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.
I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.
As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.
Ritoky probably is in fact VT.
Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there. Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker: What was good in my post you quoted? What are your scumreads and why? I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread. I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it... For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it... WOW This is the kind of stuff that ONLY TOWNIES THINK ABOUT Never lynching
This is the quote for which I originally read him town. The tone felt off but I liked the content enough to townread him for it, and I believe it still stands.
I was looking for more evidence of him being townie but holy shit look at this
On March 26 2016 06:40 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 06:39 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2016 06:38 Rels wrote:On March 26 2016 06:36 Superbia wrote:
Everyone stop lurking. I know there are 4 people who still need to vote. Your fucking late arrival is absolutely unacceptable. And you didn't totally just arrive p: Hey at least I had my vote in already. I was planning to arrive 30m ago but meh. I'm not even sure who I want the wagon on at this point in time. Probably tumblewood but lots of people are calling him town so idk. I would prefer an RSO lynch over a tubesock lynch at this point in time. I can understand scumreading rsoul but not over tube. Why is he town ?
If I see one more post this bad I'm reconsidering.
On March 29 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2016 21:09 sandroba wrote:
yo kurumi what's the name of your role and what does it do? This is soooo townie. Comparing Kuru's role name with his own. Solving the game. He was already 99% town for shooting someone scum would never shoot and this seals the deal.
Tone still off but content still great. He's also asking questions trying to get people to clarify their positions (e.g., "Is this a current read?"), which comes off as town trying to make sure scum can't weasel out of their stances.
2. They were too arbitrary-- I wasn't considering the possible responses as much as the questions, so I wouldn't know why the information would be helpful.
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that group of 4 is probably who we should lynch into today. unless kurumi says he didn't shoot rsoul...then idk wtf is going on.
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i think i wanna lynch ows the least out of that group of 4 cuz he mindmelded me at times when i looked through his filter a while back....i should probably revisit it.
weird that all 4 vote to kill mafia the following day....makes koshi look kinda bad
idk too much allergies too stronk, need to take meds and lie down cba to think anymore about this
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On March 30 2016 12:23 ritoky wrote:
i mean you're calling tumble mafia, but not koshi after how the vote went last phase which don't make much sense to me. we are both using questionable metrics here.
pretty sure every dead mafia has called me mafia, so it seems like its not the worst.
well vivax was pretty sure koshi was town, as most people are. Maybe he roleblocked kurumi or something?
and yes, every mafia also typed words in the thread, I don't think that should be a metric for anything. Also if it is a metric that should make you question rels even more not go "every dead mafia called me scum -> probably not every mafia is calling me scum -> rels prob town". See how stupid this sounds?
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On March 30 2016 12:28 ritoky wrote:
i am still stuck on what the hell rsoul's plan was supposed to be.......i mean it is entirely possible she just lied about her role and how it works.....but what's her plan there.
if damdred is mafia with her -> gives explanation why damdred keeps living through phases, since "mafia is afraid to shoot the vest"
if damdred is town -> "i gave damdred a vest" -> "uhhh, no you didn't" -> "guess i was roleblocked guys!" -> get lynched
it is very confusing to me right now.
possible. but damdred claimed medic, so he will get shot in the night if he town. if he is still alive 2 days from now prob lynch. 'till then treat him as town.
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On March 30 2016 13:15 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2016 10:05 sandroba wrote:
@tumble please explain and exemplify your strong town read on rels.
Also when you asked those questions didn't you have any intent behind them? Why do you think your questions were subpar? 1. Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 06:57 Rels wrote:On March 25 2016 06:13 Kurumi wrote:On March 24 2016 23:42 Superbia wrote:
What's the average mafia count in a 21 player game? Assuming there is 3rd party and stuff too (I'm assuming there is). The formula is usually Players/5 rounded down, so that'd be 4 Mafia this game, was there a third party in either of Storm Mafias? On March 25 2016 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.
I don't understand this paragraph at all. Why does mafia need to follow up on this? The logical/natural thing for them to do if slam is in fact mafia is to wait and see how well it goes/if he gets away with it before acting. Well, I think that they'd use the momentum created by the shot to some end. I have not seen that in the thread, people are not really reading Slam as scum, people are not super focused on people who were pushing gumshoe, I think if Mafia shot gum, they'd want the discussion to be on those points, not any others like we have right now. That's just the world I am in. On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.
Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.
Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.
I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.
As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.
Ritoky probably is in fact VT.
Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there. Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker: What was good in my post you quoted? What are your scumreads and why? I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread. I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it... For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it... WOW This is the kind of stuff that ONLY TOWNIES THINK ABOUT Never lynching This is the quote for which I originally read him town. The tone felt off but I liked the content enough to townread him for it, and I believe it still stands. I was looking for more evidence of him being townie but holy shit look at this Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 06:40 Rels wrote:On March 26 2016 06:39 Superbia wrote:On March 26 2016 06:38 Rels wrote:On March 26 2016 06:36 Superbia wrote:
Everyone stop lurking. I know there are 4 people who still need to vote. Your fucking late arrival is absolutely unacceptable. And you didn't totally just arrive p: Hey at least I had my vote in already. I was planning to arrive 30m ago but meh. I'm not even sure who I want the wagon on at this point in time. Probably tumblewood but lots of people are calling him town so idk. I would prefer an RSO lynch over a tubesock lynch at this point in time. I can understand scumreading rsoul but not over tube. Why is he town ? If I see one more post this bad I'm reconsidering. Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:On March 27 2016 21:09 sandroba wrote:
yo kurumi what's the name of your role and what does it do? This is soooo townie. Comparing Kuru's role name with his own. Solving the game. He was already 99% town for shooting someone scum would never shoot and this seals the deal. Tone still off but content still great. He's also asking questions trying to get people to clarify their positions (e.g., "Is this a current read?"), which comes off as town trying to make sure scum can't weasel out of their stances. 2. They were too arbitrary-- I wasn't considering the possible responses as much as the questions, so I wouldn't know why the information would be helpful.
I mean dude, he was right on top of your list because of that random comment about kurumi, which isn't even particularly accurate or good. I don't buy your reads, and you seem to admit you didn't put much thought into them either. That quote from rels is from day1 and I even pointed out how bad it was, but I don't think you would know that because I don't think you are reading the thread closely, you are just grabbing tidbits here and there and making up shallow reads. Not like a townie plays.
Rels is indeed asking some questions but he never follows up. He asked me a couple and never followed up or derived any conclusions from them.
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On March 30 2016 13:14 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi,justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .
mafia had to save rsoul to some degree on this day; there's no way they just let a red PR go down for free on d1 when there is reasonable doubt being shown. we have 2 confirmed red and neither was a vote to save rsoul. the living people who voted to save her are OWS, kuru, koshi, rels, LS, and damd damd claimed doctor and since no1 else has said shit i am just assuming kurumi had shot refunded and shot rsoul. making them both extremely likely town. that list becomes OWS, LS, rels, koshi. probably 2 mafia in that list of 4.
out of those 4 I think only rels is mafia currently. 1 mafia prob bussed d1 and there is prob more in the group of non voters.
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Basically if people are right on ls and koshi being town those 3 I mentioned are the best fit. And @ritoky okay we will wait for allergies, but you are popping in quickly and fucking off quite a lot this game. At some point people will start to suspect it.
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VA: Who is your #1 scumread right now? Give me a case with more than one sentence.
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On March 29 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote:
100% confirmed town forever
Damdred
Vivax
Rels
Alakaslam/scott31337
Rels is confirmed town forever because he pointed something out random in kurumi's post and said WOW SO TOWNIE. You even admit you think the tone is off. But mafia can never get some piece of a post and fake a town read right? Like it seems it's the first time you are going through you confirmed town forever filter.
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On March 30 2016 13:49 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote:
100% confirmed town forever
Damdred
Vivax
Rels
Alakaslam/scott31337
Rels is confirmed town forever because he pointed something out random in kurumi's post and said WOW SO TOWNIE. You even admit you think the tone is off. But mafia can never get some piece of a post and fake a town read right? Like it seems it's the first time you are going through you confirmed town forever filter.
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fine sandro and ritoky you been nice fellows ill lynch who you want for now.im not that sure on obi anyway
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wait your voting tublewood. Didnt both rsoul and ticktock vote him?
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Dandred/ritoky/sandro are pretty much my boys everyone else has been so annoying and anti town
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