TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3 - Page 149

On March 29 2016 18:09 Koshi wrote:

Is LS mafia?

On March 29 2016 20:44 Vivax wrote:
I really need to talk to one of the vigs (sandro or scott). I want to know if kurumis bullet was refunded, and when it is refunded (roleblocks/save cuz idk what it was). We might see extra KP tonight depending on this and we need to be prepared for that.

So the mafia team in my opinion is rsoultin, superbia, TickTock.

one of the vigs

and the last one is going to be SL probably, he is way too focused on his shitty claim for my taste, like that's all he thought of talking about after a flip that gives us info. Also he's going to use it as a reason for him not getting shot into eternity I think. I also don't like how he thought Koshi would be a good lynch all of a sudden when coming into the thread when he was super fixated on rsoultin for the entire day, reeks like bullshit.

I also don't believe rsoultin that one of the engineers invents one receives. Inventions are a PYP role and Palmar would never think of putting such a troll role into one of his games. What I think is that they are some sort of mason and can set up comm channels as flavour suggests, but only if they figure out who the other one is. Mafia can use it to their advantage to get TR easily and town can figure out the mafia while talking to them still.

That would be balanced and a serious role, dunno why I believed we could possibly have a role as rsoultin suggested, which btw is super onesided AND apparently would have required the engie to identify the other engie, and since stutters barely played this game I'm 1000% sure rsoultin didn't receive jackshit, cause stutters would have had to send it to her specifically. If this isn''t the case then rsoultin wouldn't have had to find out who the other engie was, so that gives it away that something is foul.

There's also the very small chance none of the vigs are mafia and then it's ritoky or JAT. JAT has been kinda mafia siding this game but maybe he's also just town, like his mafia siding would be blatantly obvious if 4 of 5 of my team are correct. Still he's the last of the bunch I would lynch.



Imo what we see here is mafia trying to rescue rsoultin by trying to lynch Koshi. a WIFOM vote on TW by TT, and rsoultins obvious bus,

On March 29 2016 22:38 Vivax wrote:
TBH anything TT said he said knowing that he looked like bad and would be the first of his team to die so what he did was probably just covering his partners and framing people using reverse logic.

I'm also 90 % sure on LS being town just cause of his behaviour at EoD.

Next lynches should be superbia, sandroba or sicklucker . If I don't get protted I probably don't make it through the night.
Last mafia can also be shape or Rels.

On March 30 2016 04:23 Damdred wrote:
Basically I read the game like this

Kura
Super/Rit
VA
SL


After that everyone else should be pretty safe tommorow unless they have a terrible day. Really think RS claim is still true anyway.

And it was obi and shape I believe rels, i think both are town atm

On March 29 2016 23:51 Koshi wrote:

Actually yes. I haven't found mafia in the last 2 games.

On March 29 2016 23:53 Vivax wrote:
I always ALWAYS have in the back of my head something very important, I'm not 100% sold on the version I'm proposing with superbia/JAT/Sandro/SL/TT combination.

What is still possible is a Koshi or Tumblewood or rsoultin/Rels/Shape/TT/someone (probably still SL or sandro) combination and scum decided to make a play yesterday joining the shenannies to bus their weakest member and save another.

On March 30 2016 00:17 sandroba wrote:

Explain to me vivax, how can i fact check is bullets get refunded when my shot went through. Palmar does not offer information randomly to people just because they can shoot. You can yourself pm palmar and ask if vigi bullets are refunded?
sorry I don't understand the last point. I said in thread "rsoul never told us anything about item". rsoul responded "I'm not going to tonight. It's better that way". maybe you missed that. ofc i say she needs to be questioned tomorrow
I think SL is vet because he claimed vet in a day where all mafia kp was soaked. If he is mafia then how does he know other town vet(s) is not going to claim as well and throw suspicion on him. Mafia probably thinks there is a vet since their kp didn't go through, even so you go ahead and claim a role which prob is unique or there is only a few, knowing that one is prob present and has reason to cc you?
My read on koshi wasn't because of activity at first, it was because of random reads and him not being pushy/obnoxious/agressive so far. I voted him ytd based on that.
If reads based on claims are super easy to make why would I throw away the opportunity to get an easy read on someone? And if they are easy to make why are yours mostly opposite from mine?

On March 30 2016 00:25 sandroba wrote:
Fact is 95% claims made without any pressure come from town. You didn't see TT claiming anything randomly did you?
Only claim I think is probably false is rsoul's, cause it was stalled like shit and was made because of pressure. Breadcrumbs make it more beliavable, but there is also possible scenarios where she breadcrumbs this as mafia (either knowing about the engineer role, or being mafia engineer) . But it was worth a shot keeping her alive since she claimed to have an invention made by stutters, which could have an obvious or verifiable effect which would help us sort it out.

On March 30 2016 04:39 sicklucker wrote:
people breadcrumb as mafia alllll the timeeee. Like probably more then as town because telling people your role as town is fucking stupid and thats why when im mafia I always snipe shitty power role players

On March 30 2016 04:43 VayneAuthority wrote:


why do you keep telling us about your role repeatedly then and couldn't keep your pants on at the end of day 1 deadline letting everybody know your powers and that you were probably shot? lol

On March 30 2016 01:37 Koshi wrote:
I really wonder how people like JAT just refuse to answer me yesterday when I was getting lynched and was asking about superbia.

I guess he was just praying I would die so he didn't need to comment on his scumbuddy.

Ohyeah we are going there.

On March 30 2016 04:44 sicklucker wrote:


well if hes mafia hes waiting till the nk so he has to convince less people. thats how jat plays mafia

On March 30 2016 03:07 Shapelog wrote:
So i checked SL filter from XV (his last blue game in data: Click for link) and it checks out expect for one thing. Before i mention that (becuase i already posted the quote and are lazy to move things around to make this post flow while you read it) I found this,

which is what he did this game as well. Thought it was interesting since if IIRC someone posted something about it a while back.

Thing that is bugging me from XV to this game is how he approach someone sus. D1, most notably Gumdrop in XV.
Editers note: this became much more than a filter compersion.


In XV he waited for 2 hours to see if Gum posted any follow up posts. He wanted to see Gumdrops reaction and his respond to it. I.E. He found someone scummy, and wanted to see more posts from them (this is where i am trying to get at)

Now look at how he Handles Gumshow:



So he has his reason right?
But when gumshow starts posting and stuff he does not look and comment on them. Despite being in the thread for sometime. Even took the time to go after LS instead of listing and responding to Gumshow (as far as we know.)
Then when someone comments about his read on Gumshow:

His scum read was the same. Gumshow had posted much more than that at that time and he should have had something else (a comment or anything) if he was paying attention to the thread right? And pressure? How can you be pressure voting someone if you do not even respond to or even show that you are following their posts? it just doesn't line up.
Not only that, he ignore Gumshow further after that point as well. Guess what the next post that mention Gum was...

So SL really did not care at all for his read on Gum. He infact just went after LS (but never voted LS)
Why do i meation this? because it is also different from XV.



He was willing to change his vote at the slightest change in wind. Hell really the reasoning wasn't cocreate in that game. Someone rub him the wrong way and it made him sus. so vote.

I Will say that SL seemed slightly disinterested in XV about Gumdrop but might be because he was interested on voting vivax. Still was a difference thou. in my mind.

So either,

• I am being dumb here (very unlikely)
  
• SL is mafia due to not even gaving a flying fuck on his GumShow vote or read
  
• SL is racist to people whoes name start with Gum and auto-votes them when he plays with them