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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 23 2016 23:54 GMT
#221
On March 24 2016 08:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Superbia is super tryhard this game I think this like a first unless he did the same thing in Titanic I Had a Cunning Plan but I liking it so far although I don't agree with such a early vote.


and what did this teach you?
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 23 2016 23:54 GMT
#222
On March 24 2016 08:51 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Superbia don't you think it's a little early for a vote?
Also I had decided to explore the TL Database and long a behold gumshoe is a vet O_o


mafia..

maybe..

50/50

Nice way of saying null, without saying null.

What did you find interesting in it btw?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 23 2016 23:54 GMT
#223
On March 24 2016 08:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours.


damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT.

Hmm the bolded seems kinda weird. Why can't he be VT?


re LS: assuming a conclusion before asking for clarification, bad mindset. potentially mafia mindset.

re damdred: his reaction to my role claim makes him unlikely VT. i don't usually post pictures without a point or for a laugh.

no further thoughts.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 23 2016 23:55 GMT
#224
On March 24 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours.


damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT.


I am not VT.

Why claim not VT? Seems kinda dumb.


ROFL the irony
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 23 2016 23:56 GMT
#225
On March 24 2016 08:54 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours.


damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT.

Hmm the bolded seems kinda weird. Why can't he be VT?


re LS: assuming a conclusion before asking for clarification, bad mindset. potentially mafia mindset.

re damdred: his reaction to my role claim makes him unlikely VT. i don't usually post pictures without a point or for a laugh.

no further thoughts.

Wait you claimed being a truck?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 23 2016 23:56 GMT
#226
On March 24 2016 08:51 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:48 gumshoe wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:42 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:37 gumshoe wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:29 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:28 gumshoe wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).

Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind.


Beetlejuice!

oks,

1: I ALWAYS open up with a try hard post as town : P I read into a little a lot and a lot a ton. I can provide older posts of mine regarding this point / : (this an argument I have almost every game so its ok im used to it) and if you arent willing to consider my habits as a player, your not doing everything you can to catch scum (or blah blah omgbus as alternative)

2: You gave me a troll question and I gave you a troll answer / :

3: Are you just coming after me cause your bored and feel something needs to happen cause mafia? Or do you genuinely value your own ideals of what scumminess is (ie try hard) over the reality of how each individual actually plays?



Do you think I'm town?


Well you wanted to get the game started, which is a baseline townie mind set, casting the first vote this early when evi is pretty vague and your case is fairly shallow implies a fair share of courage, as you could easily be jumped on for a weak case this early. Which if your town you could even want as that helps you find scum potentially.

You also seem to care what I think (at least seemingly) which isnt what scum trying to bury a townie early would want.

From a scum perspective its a big play and heat you dont need. Your experienced so this would be borderline reckless mastery rather than blunder. Last game I was in had a spymaster but he was rather timid early and overall that case seems far less likely from a perspective of ideal play.

TLDR your probs town / :


Okay. Did you reach this conclusion before you made the first post in this quote chain?

This one
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 24 2016 08:28 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).

Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind.


Beetlejuice!

oks,

1: I ALWAYS open up with a try hard post as town : P I read into a little a lot and a lot a ton. I can provide older posts of mine regarding this point / : (this an argument I have almost every game so its ok im used to it) and if you arent willing to consider my habits as a player, your not doing everything you can to catch scum (or blah blah omgbus as alternative)

2: You gave me a troll question and I gave you a troll answer / :

3: Are you just coming after me cause your bored and feel something needs to happen cause mafia? Or do you genuinely value your own ideals of what scumminess is (ie try hard) over the reality of how each individual actually plays?




Not really? That post was an emotional one, not logical. I usually respond very early to insults/accusations and get caught up in them so this game I made a rule where I would wait for at least three accusations (ie beetlejuice) and in the meantime look elsewhere for clues(damdreds history in this case). That response was sort of just me chomping on the bit wanting to get mah piece out there / : I regarded you as hostile null at the time of it. Only when you asked me specifically what I imagined about you did I gather my thoughts and come to what I deemed an impartial conclusion.


I am conflicted. 3: Are you just coming after me cause your bored and feel something needs to happen cause mafia? Or do you genuinely value your own ideals of what scumminess is (ie try hard) over the reality of how each individual actually plays? is straight up thought process evaluation from the POV where I'm town.

How is this possible when you had no town read on me yet?


read earlier in that very post

and if you arent willing to consider my habits as a player, your not doing everything you can to catch scum (or blah blah omgbus as alternative)


the whole notion of accusing someone because they are accusing you is hardlined into my brain as a dumb one. Which is why when I speak to someone whose accusing me I like to think thier town that I can convince rather than mafia because if they are mafia I have no real objectivity. But that bit there is present to indicate that yes, at the time I was open to you bieng scum / : so no need for confliction on this acount.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 23 2016 23:56 GMT
#227
On March 24 2016 08:54 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Superbia is super tryhard this game I think this like a first unless he did the same thing in Titanic I Had a Cunning Plan but I liking it so far although I don't agree with such a early vote.


and what did this teach you?

He probably town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 23 2016 23:57 GMT
#228
On March 24 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:51 sicklucker wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Superbia don't you think it's a little early for a vote?
Also I had decided to explore the TL Database and long a behold gumshoe is a vet O_o


mafia..

maybe..

50/50

Nice way of saying null, without saying null.

What did you find interesting in it btw?


incorrect. 50% chance of being mafia is very high. Thats the equivalent of a very strong day 1 scum read. I was probably talking out of my ass off one tone post tho
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 23 2016 23:57 GMT
#229
On March 24 2016 08:55 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours.


damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT.


I am not VT.

Why claim not VT? Seems kinda dumb.


ROFL the irony

I did stop claiming VT unless I getting lynched obviously.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 23 2016 23:57 GMT
#230
On March 24 2016 08:54 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:51 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours.


damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT.


I am not VT.

Why claim not VT? Seems kinda dumb.


Might still be VT. But I'm claiming I'm not.

You didn't answer the question...


It's a dumb question. Here is my answer:

....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 23 2016 23:58 GMT
#231
On March 24 2016 08:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:43 Shapelog wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:39 Superbia wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:30 Shapelog wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:20 gumshoe wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
I also agree that talking about slam is very scummy. I have never really tried to read him esp this early!


Who are you agreeing with?

I am guessing it is the guy who voted 1st on you lol.
On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).

Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind.

On March 24 2016 08:00 gumshoe wrote:
On March 24 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote:
I encourage everyone to follow my voting pattern this game. Starting with my first vote.

Beetlejuice

That really is not much of a troll response though. It sure is a difference in tone, but not really a troll response (at least IMO). It like he was saying dumbass but in a way that remembers Tim Burton.

What strikes you (or others) heavily as trolly here?


Explain your mindset behind this post.

- Why do you feel a need to defend gumshoe? You have him as null.

- If not defending, why did you make this post? What's the point behind it?

It's soft defending I won't lie.

In that post. I was trying to understand what made you see a troll response. I agreed with you that there is a difference, but i didn't find it quote on quote trolly. I was trying to understand your view on it.

I also made it because you want to discuss things and last game i played in (Noir) Town had a shitty atmosphere.



Do you think it being trolly or not is alignment indicative for anyone in any way?

Yes it does. Especially in your case since you are directly comparing the serious tone from Gumshow to this new "trollish" post.
Unless this was a rhetorical question. I am bad at those.
Why aren't you answering this clearly btw?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 23 2016 23:58 GMT
#232
like 50% is a very good reasonable odds to think someones mafia passed off two posts do you want me to lie and say 90% to make a point or be retarded?. what a scummy thing you said
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 23 2016 23:59 GMT
#233
So Kurumi any other thoughts you want to share?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 24 2016 00:00 GMT
#234
Damdred you around bro?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 24 2016 00:01 GMT
#235
On March 24 2016 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:51 sicklucker wrote:
On March 24 2016 08:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Superbia don't you think it's a little early for a vote?
Also I had decided to explore the TL Database and long a behold gumshoe is a vet O_o


mafia..

maybe..

50/50

Nice way of saying null, without saying null.

What did you find interesting in it btw?


incorrect. 50% chance of being mafia is very high. Thats the equivalent of a very strong day 1 scum read. I was probably talking out of my ass off one tone post tho

Ok..I actually see what you with %'s. mean i guess since scum % is what like 20% out of the player list vs town 80%? 50/50 would be higher
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
March 24 2016 00:01 GMT
#236
On March 24 2016 08:59 LightningStrike wrote:
So Kurumi any other thoughts you want to share?

People should slow the hell down, I am astonished with the role talking and people manage to create another page of it.
I see nothing wrong with Superbia's early vote on gumshoe.
When did sicklucker say anything about gumshoe? He has vote on him and no posts to back it up.
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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 24 2016 00:03 GMT
#237
On March 24 2016 08:58 sicklucker wrote:
like 50% is a very good reasonable odds to think someones mafia passed off two posts do you want me to lie and say 90% to make a point or be retarded?. what a scummy thing you said

Yeah i just realized what you meant with the %'s (see last post)

i thought 50/50 as in half and half chance when i read it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
March 24 2016 00:04 GMT
#238
On March 24 2016 08:52 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Confirmed Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Likely Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Maybe town
+ Show Spoiler +

Not going to lynch Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Null
+ Show Spoiler +
VayneAuthority
Kurumi
Stutters695
Damdred
sandroba
ObiWanShinobi
Rels
justanothertownie
Tictock
ritoky
sicklucker
Alakaslam
Tumblewood
Shapelog
Vivax
rsoultin
LightningStrike
Superbia
Tubesock
gumshoe

Won't lynch right now Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +

Maybe Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +

Likely Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +

Confirmed Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +


What was the meaning of this post? What the hell is "Won't lynch right now Mafia" - is there any case where you don't lynch a Mafia I am missing? Why do you need the "Confirmed" spoiler if the confirmation comes from the host through flips and the updated player list? Is the reason you made that list is that Mafia has a cheatsheet for shots? Nothing good can come from this. I highly dislike this type of lists, especially that you have not commented on what is going to happen with it.

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 07:53 gumshoe wrote:
Maybe I've missed an evolution somewhere along the line but slam seems to be actually trying as opposed to just flaunting his usual semi troll trot. Which isn't a point I'm going to level against him cause wow that would just be bad, but is of note for better or worse. Damdred is of course fishing as one would expect of ether side, words like interesting are rather neutral. A call to arms is also fairly vague, clearly he has notions of how peeps react to something like that, or mabs he's willing to play it by ear. His post feels cautious and calculated few words as it may be. Which could be scummy depending on his meta ( never played with him ) seems intelligent regardless. Parabola sounds like he just doesn't wanna get anyone on his tail but still wants to appear to be a present and beloved member of town. Could be scums, could just be excited to play, maybe he's bieng light to try to attract heat for said lightness thereby kick starting stuff. Multiple personalities can be envisioned from the posts so far, but there is no real leaning towards good or evil. As one would expect a page in to a game.

TLDR As of yet, nothing worth acting on outside of concert with more proof. TLDR for TLDR stuff is stuff



This post gave me so many rubs in such bad ways that I just can't let it go.
a) The comment on Slam: Not only it's absolutely unnecessary, it ends with "Well, I shouldn't bring it up because it's bad" - so why bother? You know it is bad and you still do it. I mean, I guess you want people to focus on that for some reason, but I'd rather focus on you. Also, if Chezinu Rule is to be trusted, we may have another testament to this.
b) Damdred's fishing. Not only I have not seen anything of that nature till that post, but also we are met with a statement that "fishing is to be expected of either side". Oh boy, no, not at all. Fishing for roles is not something you expect from either side. Fishing is Mafia's job. I highly dislike the attempt to paint it as ambiguous. I also do not understand why would you bring attention to any odd words in a person's post. If that's a crumb, you don't want Mafia to see it. Odd wording - go ahead, it might be a slip. But random, seemingly non-related words? No way.
c) Read on Superbia. Another read straight outta fortune teller. Why would you, gumshoe, try to paint Superbia as suspicious? At the point of posting that, the only thing Superbia has said about himself was that "you should care about him", which pretty much goes contrary to your point about him not wanting anyone on his tail.
d) You end your post saying that it is not really worth much, but you managed to paint Superbia scum, excuse Damdred non-existant fishing and point out that pointing out Slam's behaviour at this stage of the game does more harm than good. You note that people might be excited about something, that they look for something, but you seem not to look for anything. You created a mid-sized post detailing less than a page of a game for nothing, what you admit, but you would not have done that if it really was nothing, so what is your agenda behind that post?


1: There is no real substance insofar in game hence there is no real substance to the post / :
2: I am self admittedly terrible at fishing, every atempt I have made to fish has ended in disaster because the truth is I am natural bait without a modicum of effort and said effort usually casts me too far into the jaws to escape. So I dont fish except on holidays which limits my early game contribtion
3:my post isnt trying to acomplish anything really / : its a look into my thought process which I usually commit to thread as a matter of course.
4: If you think I posted because I felt pressured to post, your not wrong, I want to play and engage with others, not lurk, if what I have to offer on page two of the game isnt up to par, my apologies / : there are no real accusations because there are no evident scum, only thoughts on play and considerations for the future.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 24 2016 00:04 GMT
#239
On March 24 2016 09:01 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:59 LightningStrike wrote:
So Kurumi any other thoughts you want to share?

People should slow the hell down, I am astonished with the role talking and people manage to create another page of it.
I see nothing wrong with Superbia's early vote on gumshoe.
When did sicklucker say anything about gumshoe? He has vote on him and no posts to back it up.

On March 24 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
I also agree that talking about slam is very scummy. I have never really tried to read him esp this early!

It was a indirect reference.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 24 2016 00:07 GMT
#240
On March 24 2016 09:01 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 08:59 LightningStrike wrote:
So Kurumi any other thoughts you want to share?

People should slow the hell down, I am astonished with the role talking and people manage to create another page of it.
I see nothing wrong with Superbia's early vote on gumshoe.
When did sicklucker say anything about gumshoe? He has vote on him and no posts to back it up.

But.....
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I go fast.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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