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On April 05 2016 08:53 LightningStrike wrote: Yay I rolled town which I really wanted so I can change my play style. Let's find scum! Change your playstyle from what to what? | ||
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On April 05 2016 08:59 LightningStrike wrote: From being a person who was town read for emotions to actually be town read for content. Ask Lexus for why  As someone that was a bit thrown in (i think it was unknown mafia) by your sudden capslock emotion, I approve. - Personally, I would like to hear from the newbies. What is their experience with mafia, why they are town, just generally being active. If we can get the newbies active they won't be easy scapegoats for scum and we should have a more productive d1. | ||
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On April 05 2016 09:30 Gossemerr wrote: Are you implying we would be easy scapegoats based solely on #/length of posts? Maybe you want newbies to post a lot to clutter up the thread and muddle pro-town progress I'm implying that lack of experience tends to make people easier targets for scum looking for reasons to accuse players. The upshot is that same lack of experience usually makes it painfully obvious what a newbie's alignment is if they are active. | ||
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His "damn, caught me" comment to Artanis' list caught my eye. Mafia are more likely to play off pressure (even fake pressure) as a joke instead of flatly denying. On April 05 2016 12:48 Tumblewood wrote: I'm going to go case-read on this because I can't really judge which case it is yet. Case 1: Artanis is town and is using that post to judge people's reactions. Case 2: Artanis is town and is using that post to lighten up the thread and get things started. Case 3: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear that he's trying to get reactions. Case 4: Artanis is scum and is using that post to appear carefree. Of these, case 4 is the worst and case 1 is probably the best. I think that his opening is NAI [for newbies, that stands for "Not Alignment Indicative"] for now. Your vote is entirely throwaway or entirely overweighted. Really it's just D1 start and we're reading into nothing. This post doesn't do anything. It's made to look like it does something but it argues itself into nothing. Step 1: let's analyze Art's play. Step 2: GB's vote was a waste and we are reading into nothing. ##Vote: Tumblewood This also makes me suspicious of Art, but that is unflipped association for now. - @Damdred, I'm usually riding the same mental groove as you by now. I'm hoping you just aren't trying yet, because I disagree with you on LS, who seems pretty townie to me. - @The rest of you. Get talking. We can do better than the standard heavy activity right before deadline and a lame 47 other hours. If I end up being the activity police here we are in trouble. | ||
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##Unvote: TW | ||
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On April 07 2016 07:31 Damdred wrote: And I vote boxer like a baddie. Tumble and kur are interesting, I'd be willing to switch to either I think. Why TW? You weren't on board when I pushed him earlier and now when I think he is town you flip? | ||
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##Vote: Fidei86 | ||
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On April 07 2016 08:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He doesn't have to, essentially modconfirmed ftw.Fidei, please shit townie rainbows if you're actually town. On April 07 2016 07:59 Fidei86 wrote: because that's kind of annoying. my first ml :'( Sry I tried to lynch you Fid. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [My original thoughts] + On April 06 2016 13:21 DoYouHas wrote: I think TW is likely scum. His "damn, caught me" comment to Artanis' list caught my eye. Mafia are more likely to play off pressure (even fake pressure) as a joke instead of flatly denying. This post doesn't do anything. It's made to look like it does something but it argues itself into nothing. Step 1: let's analyze Art's play. Step 2: GB's vote was a waste and we are reading into nothing. ##Vote: Tumblewood This also makes me suspicious of Art, but that is unflipped association for now. He pushes all 3 wagons from D1. 2/3 of which are solid town, 3/3 I think are town. 1. On April 07 2016 07:08 Tumblewood wrote: I'm unconvinced by the case on LS, and skeptical of the case on RB (could easily just be a newbie who's not used to this). Boxerfred is a sensible if shallow case... I'm not feeling great about it, but there's really nothing better going on right now. 2. On April 07 2016 07:25 Tumblewood wrote: Damn, looked back at that original BF read... I understand the read progression part, but "usually more useless as town" is not a reason for a read ever. I feel a lot stronger about this than boxerfred. ##Vote GB 3. On April 07 2016 07:52 Tumblewood wrote: I assume you mean Fidei? I'd be up for shenannies if I thought they would work, but Fidei is a dice roll at best. Notice that even though he says he would be up for the shenanigans, he doesn't actually move his vote even though there was time, and it would have worked. This fits perfectly with the mafia tendency to split their votes when it is multiple town on the chopping block for EoD. - His list post doesn't add up: On April 08 2016 02:40 Tumblewood wrote: top scum reads Fidei, Goss scum leans RB, GB top town reads CHodge, Damdred town lean on LS null on art and DYH no read on Kura and Spike because they've done nothing yet First off, having Fidei as your top scumread when there is a huge reason to think he is town is dumb. Secondly, Goss is bigger scumread than GB at this point based on 1 post? GB held TW's vote for d1 based on more than that. Most importantly, "null on art". TW has defended Art twice, agreed with Art's case enough to vote for GB, and pushed Art's agenda with the shennanigans. For someone who clearly is siding with Art, a null read is just scum hedging. | ||
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On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote: Art, is pretty simple why you're scum. You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel) But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia. The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos. To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing +1. You just wrote most of my case. I'll add that if Art was genuinely uncertain enough on your lynch that he would lead the shenanigans off of it, he would not have been so quick to jump right back on you. It seems to me that Art was trying to stay ahead of the curve, propose shenanigans before someone else could. Tie up votes on candidates he knew to be town. | ||
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Happy to vote Art as well. | ||
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On April 07 2016 08:02 Shapelog wrote: Final vote count Boxerfred (4): GlowingBear, LightningStrike, Fidei86 (3): Artanis[Xp]. GlowingBear (2): Tumblewood (1): Race Bannon (1): LightningStrike (1): Race Bannon Gossemerr (1): Non-Voters (0): Currently, boxerfred is set to be lynched. The deadline is in . Make sure all voting is done in the voting thread here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. Not voting will result in a warning. Please stand by for Night post/ Do not post till it is up. It appears you didn't. | ||
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On April 10 2016 01:55 Fidei86 wrote: You would rather lynch a lurker than lynch likely scum? That doesn't make sense. Guys. we are switching to Spika. He has enough posts to know he isn't lurking, but not enough to have contributed anything. Artanis might be mafia, but Spika is dead weight. ##Vote: Spikasaur ##Vote: Art | ||
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On April 07 2016 08:02 Shapelog wrote: Final vote count Boxerfred (4): GlowingBear, LightningStrike, Fidei86 (3): Artanis[Xp]. GlowingBear (2): Tumblewood (1): Race Bannon (1): LightningStrike (1): Race Bannon Gossemerr (1): Non-Voters (0): On April 10 2016 08:07 Shapelog wrote: Ye Ole Final vote count GlowingBear (4): Artanis[XP], Gossemerr,Tumblewood, Fidei86 Tumblewood (3): LightningStrike (0): Artanis[Xp] (1): Spikasaur (0): Race Bannon (1): LightningStrike Non-Voters: Kuragari42, Spikasaur Here we go. Day1: Scum split their vote. With 6 lynch candidates with at least 1 vote the odds of all 3 being on different wagons goes up. Unfortunately not to much to be gotten out purely on votes. Damdred gets townpoints for the last second swap back to BF, which at least gave us a bit more information than the Fid lynch. Day2: Art, Goss, and TW all piled onto GB where they ended up on seperate wagons D1. Not too extraordinary since TW followed Art onto GB D1. Race throws his vote onto a non-wagon for a second time. LS throws away his vote on Race. - Support for Art as scum, support for LS as scum, Race needs another look. | ||
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Town: DYH - Scum: TW, Damdred CHodge(N1): Town: Damdred - Scum: Race - Null: Everyone else. GB(D2): Town: Race, Kura - Scum: TW, LS, Art Fidei86(N2): Early - Town: Race, DYH, Damdred - Scum: TW, Goss, Art - Null: Kura Late - Kinda all over the place. Wanted to lynch LS. Spikasaur(N2): No solid reads. Early townread on DYH, early suspicion but mostly null on Art. | ||
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I can't come up with a scumteam that makes sense with the voting and the NK flip reads that doesn't include Art. ##Vote: Artanis - @Damdred, where are you at with all of this? | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:29 Kuragari42 wrote: Okay. I say we lynch Tumble today. No. We have 2 claimed cops, one of which HAS to be mafia. Determining whether Art or Goss is fakeclaiming is the ONLY issue we are considering up until deadline. Seems pretty obvious that Goss is the real cop to me and Art the scum but I'm going to be double checking pre-deadline. | ||
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Art's check on Race and his behavior following his claimed green return through doesn't make sense. ##DoubleVote: Art | ||
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All that is left is the long-feeling, short wait for the flip. It is silly how much this stresses me out every time, regardless of my level of certainty. | ||
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I also can't see a world where Art and Race are scum together. There is just one possibility left for me to check out, that everyone on the Art wagon was present at the deadline, before I commit to the Kura lynch. | ||
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##Vote: Kura | ||
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On April 15 2016 21:19 LightningStrike wrote: BTW if kura flips FF I become confirmed town due to the check. Can you explain this further? Why does Kura flipping scum make you unable to be the gf? | ||
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On April 16 2016 00:26 LightningStrike wrote: I mean if he flips GF I am confirmed town. Let's hope we get that lucky. | ||
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On April 16 2016 06:02 LightningStrike wrote: Man this is worrying on the fact no one been posting yet it's 2 hours till the fate of our town is decided. Kinda feeling nervous atm. Hard to get motivated to post when the reasoning for Kura is so straightforward and if we get it wrong the game is over. I'm completely with you on upping the activity level post lynch though. That is, unless you have some stuff to talk about while we wait. | ||
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Keep talking Kura. | ||
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