Who Wants to be a Millionaire Cell Mini Mafia - Page 4

On February 24 2016 07:17 Damdred wrote:
Anyway pointless today, we need to focus on this cell.

Cell D I would like you to say who is scum,each cell with a slight blurb as why please.

Ritoky, do you think Breske could be this disinterested as town?

On February 24 2016 08:55 Damdred wrote:
I'm here, sorry ff thought I was up first.

Ok so I had a thought Breshke did something super Toney I want thoughts on.

When he came back rit was debating when to use the 50/50. It will be 100% easier in that situation for Breshke to go 1 v 1 and either take the loss and do nothing or just try to take that person down.

However Breshke asks rit not to use it so that he can do work. This is pretty town oriented to me it forces him to do more work looking at multiple people. It forces the rest of the game to take stances on all three rather than a 50-50.
I like this thought of mine.

On February 24 2016 22:04 Rels wrote:

I 100% disagree with both you and Damdred. The only scums that are OK with using 50/50 are scums that are heavily townread, as 1v1 puts them in a position where the other guy is lynched. Scums that are scumread do not want to 50/50 used as they might lose the 1V1 fight. If Breshke is scum, he is MORE likely to be lynched in a 1v1 than in a 1v2.

Breshke for this cell. Is the above read on him the reason you been scum reading him this game?

On February 24 2016 22:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


Dunno what you are looking for for you breshke question exactly.
For this question: As town vayne often rattles off reads without much explanation d1. In his last scumgame, he didn't do that. He was more cautious about his reads. He got called out on it and lynched.
So basically I'm saying, I don't give him a lot of credit for not following an easy to fix scum meta that was pointed out to him last game.

On February 24 2016 22:46 Rels wrote:
Shape => This post was super bad. Like, every explanation for his reads are either bad or obvious; AND THERE IS NO TOWNREAD. Every "townfeel" is balanced by something. In short, Shape is giving himself outs to scumread people. His unwilligness to townread Damdred is scummy. He also posted something about "Damdred wanting to waste the 50/50 on our group" several times, which is nonsense but in line with scum not wanting to deal with 50/50 in his group.

MY MAN KUSH! I have played many of town games with Kush (I actually think, that all my games, Nut, Newbies 1&2, etc.) I have played with him. So Kush should know me very well. On the other hand, I have never played with scum Kush. So idk what to look at him for.

His involvement + his attitude makes me want to TL him.

VA: Scum reads! Scum reads everywhere!
Wow, this guy is very aggressive. He really has not stated why he is scum reading people. But that actually makes me feel like he might be town. I feel personally that scum would feel the need to explain their scum reads.

His attention is weirdly focused on My cell (B) and his Cell (D).

FF: Happy to be "Town", which IIRC, Kush stated that he would have a scum burnout. That prob. filters into that post a bit tbh. Then reinstates it which feels weird.

Another thing that stands out:

He does not seem to care about why Breshke is being scum read by his other cell mate VA. I find it strange that FF, knowing if he is town that 1 or the other is scum, does not care about why they scum read each other. It just feels like FF didn't care.

I feel out the 3, right now if i had to pick, I say FF is scum. Does not make sense IMO, that he would not care about his other cell mates (while being town) scum reading each other. Especially since he would know that 1 of them had to be scum.

On February 23 2016 23:23 darthfoley wrote:


I never said one was definitely better than the other, but I don't think I really mentioned any pros to your strategy, which is why I questioned you in the first place. Unless you consider kicking the can down the road to be a pro.

I do however think that gambling that inactive/afk people early game are going to get helpful and active later in the game-- especially if their inactivity is what got their cells placed later-- is just that: a gamble. With active players (e.g. cells A and B) isn't it a safer play to leave them in the game longer simply because their activity will allow them to be town read/scum read easier and because they'll create good town discussion?

From what I've thought about your strategy, it just seems like it would benefit mafia more than town to not have that many strong towns/active towns late game and rely on low activity players to win the game for town. Am I missing something?

On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:
Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them.

I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons.



Posts he was referencing:
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I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective.

VA I am slightly scum reading right now... I liked Kush's reasoning behind his cell order and where to put easy/hard cells more than VA's argument, but I am not sure if that's alignment indicative yet. Seems like a mafia thing to want: planting the hard cells early so they just win a quick 3-0 or 3-1. VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning. I think Kush's approach of win now rather than later is much more town oriented.

Think we should think about 50/50 here if the play doesn't pick up

On February 23 2016 09:26 darthfoley wrote:
Cell D: I've played a couple games with VA and I think I have a basic read on his play. He's one of the few people I feel "comfortable" reading (see Unoriginal + Star Wars games). Never played with FF or Breshke, so i'll keep an eye on them but meh for right now. I would rate this a harder cell..

On February 24 2016 08:35 Breshke wrote:
Damdred are you still here? This is a lot harder than i thought it would be.

Currently after my brief skims through VA and FF's filter I havn't actually found anything scummy from either of them.

I think VA is the scum though purely from the fact that this looks exactly like what I remember from FF and i've only ever played with him as town iirc. His posts seem totally carefree and there is the random posts that do not relate to the game whatsoever. I will look through his recent scumgames though and see if it's any different.

@VA



I know this was at the start of the game but do you remember reasons for this list.

On February 24 2016 08:37 Breshke wrote:
erm FF wanna be a mate and tell me which were your scumgames. I forgot database wouldnt have em.

On February 25 2016 00:22 Rels wrote:

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You have nothing to say on my read of OWS ? Or Damdred ?

On February 25 2016 00:23 Kuragari42 wrote:


I was thinking much of the same thing but with FF as scum so hmm.

On February 25 2016 00:51 LightningStrike wrote:
I woke up and played some LoL games to wake myself up more and saw Rels starting to post more. I liking him over Darth honestly it feels like town Rels to me despite his inactivity until now.
Also to answer your question Shape: Scum loves giving townreads on people more than calling people scum even if that person doesn't look that great to the majority of the people.

On February 25 2016 00:56 LightningStrike wrote:

Your last question towards I think kur.

On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:
Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them.

I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons.



Posts he was referencing:
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I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective.