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boxerfred
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On February 07 2016 21:11 boxerfred wrote: The kills revolved around people that are imho capable of leading town. Damdred is a great player, jat and ritoky have some reputation too. Now the thing is that all of them were voting palmar, too. I am trying to figure out why they died. Given that at least the Damdred kill was based on mafia being afraid of him, id say that marv scum. He should have the highest town reputation in here. That only counts under the premise that no vig shot was involved .it a vig shot was involved ,it was a bad shot. I dont think vig wouldever shoote outside of palmar or nooniansong so i think we have had three scum shots. Given that marv feels off to me, i can see him being scum. We desperately needed a noon or palmar flip imho to be able to analyze d1 votes. So question is do we lynch palmar now for the late information or Do we guess ob another scum member? Chez, md and onegu remain unreadable to me so i feel like the game remains volatile. We need to look into ritokys reads, especoally in regard to disfomration. Ritokys initial case on hin should be reciewed again given that he flipped town. Also jats reads gain importance now. Not sure why marv would be afraid of damdred? Why do we desperately need a noon flip? Not sure how much info that gives us. What case on me? He just said my post was terrible but not AI. He later had a TR on me. Also are you trying to suggest that I am scum? Dunno you seems somewhat obsessive about me and that is irritating. ritoky reads: damdred reads: On February 06 2016 07:44 Damdred wrote: Honestly I'm thinking the mafia team is like palmar onegu and ry with someone else. And I'm thinking onegu is coming back last minute to hammer the least wanted team mate. And I think I could be wrong on palmar to some degree my gut says mafia though. But zyrre has been pretty scummy today. On February 06 2016 00:03 Damdred wrote: So, I've read the thread and its all over the place voting wise and that's sorta meh at this junction so we need to get it down to a couple targets and ho from there. If be ok sort of going for palmar, onegu, zyree and chez is an outliner. I don't think nm/va/kush are worth a lynch today or moosey as I think moose is town. NM post on palmar isn't bad at all though hard to meta but Marv says lynch palmar. So maybe I should put my eggs with Marv and tide and die some jat reads?: On February 07 2016 03:23 justanothertownie wrote: No idea why he is still in the game. On February 07 2016 03:36 justanothertownie wrote: What do we learn? I mean you are all acting like he is confirmed mafia anyways. So... for some reason jat didn't really write out his reads... did I miss something here? Common theme: all 3 didn't like Onegu at all. Unfortunately I have no time right now cause RL stuff. But I will be back later this evening and read some filters. We need to look at more stuff. As I said earlier there are still 3-4 scums out there and if we don't get much discussion going this day it is bad for town. mkay. | ||
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On February 07 2016 22:17 Chezinu wrote: Marv boxer disformation Is that your town list or your scum list? | ||
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marvellosity
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On February 07 2016 22:20 disformation wrote: Is that your town list or your scum list? If it's a mafia list, chez is probably mafia because those names together make zero sense whatsoever | ||
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Chezinu
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On February 07 2016 22:20 disformation wrote: Is that your town list or your scum list? interest list. Marv and boxer scum team would be interesting. | ||
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nooniansoong
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On February 07 2016 22:38 nooniansoong wrote: Good news. I can feel myself beginning to care a little. Would be more impressed if you like had some reads to share or something. | ||
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nooniansoong
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On February 07 2016 23:20 disformation wrote: Would be more impressed if you like had some reads to share or something. You're town. Impressed yet? | ||
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Rels
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I'm not saying he didn't have something to do BTW, maybe he did; I'm saying his attitude regarding how he AFK was scum. On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote: bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word. This might indicate BF as town. It's early in the game, nobody is quite under suspicions yet, Palmar knows he's good at creating wagons, I don't think he would create suspicions on his teammate ? Plus I think he is known for not bussing, even if this can be broken for one particular game of course. Later he rescinded this read so I'm not sure it is very AI actually. On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote: I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future. Koshi explain your tell please. | ||
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nooniansoong
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Not defending him, merely hedging my hypothetical bets. | ||
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boxerfred
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On February 08 2016 00:12 Rels wrote: I read Palmar's filter. He is the lynch today whatever happens. In addition of the "marv read" (him being active but with no direction the first 24 hours), the biggest thing is how he was AFK the whole Friday, and he never explained it. A townie would never do that; if he knew he needed to AFK 24 hours he would say it (especially since the pressure was on him before he disappeared), if it was unexpected he would have said a word in thread. This attitude is extremely scum indicative. This is what I and Superbia did during PyP; super active early, then having a much harder time to post all the time later. I'm not saying he didn't have something to do BTW, maybe he did; I'm saying his attitude regarding how he AFK was scum. This might indicate BF as town. It's early in the game, nobody is quite under suspicions yet, Palmar knows he's good at creating wagons, I don't think he would create suspicions on his teammate ? Plus I think he is known for not bussing, even if this can be broken for one particular game of course. Later he rescinded this read so I'm not sure it is very AI actually. Koshi explain your tell please. Rels this does not indicate me being town. in this post: On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote: bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word. Palmar refers to ritoky not me. | ||
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Rels
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On February 08 2016 00:32 boxerfred wrote: Rels this does not indicate me being town. in this post: Palmar refers to ritoky not me. Yep that's what I said. My point is: Palmar said you might be scum at a time when noone was really suspected => you're not scum with him. Maybe ? It doesn't feel super strong actually. | ||
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nooniansoong
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On February 08 2016 00:27 Rels wrote: Yo bro who is scum ? I'm reading Koshi's filter and I'm not impressed. From what I've read he's been really single-mindedly focused on tunneling me. I don't know what that means though. I suppose it would be a convenient way for scum to be lazy. There is some recent meta that somewhat excuses his sloppy read: In the last game we played together, I was scum and koshi townread me for most of the game. The natural meta response to that is to scumread me more easily. So final verdit on koshi: dunno. I would have to filter him. | ||
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boxerfred
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On February 08 2016 00:35 Rels wrote: Yep that's what I said. My point is: Palmar said you might be scum at a time when noone was really suspected => you're not scum with him. Maybe ? It doesn't feel super strong actually. I don't understand that. On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote: bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word. This is what Palmar says. Instead of "bf", he wanted to say "ritoky". So no, he doesn't say I'm scummy, he says RITOKY is scummy. Am I dumb for not seeing what you mean? | ||
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Looking at some filters. @ NocturneMage: are your reads still: town: marv, ritoky, boxerfred, darthfoley, disformation scum: VA, Koshi and Palmar ? You have somewhat implied a scum lean on Rels and Me. Is that a legit scum read or only mild concern? Who would you lynch if Palmar was modkilled for some reason. | ||
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Rels
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I don't like Koshi at all, he might very well be scum. Here is why: 1 D1 the only real thing he did was pushing kush + opposing Palmar's lynch. That's it. No read on anyone else, especially Zyrre. Like, I think this is the only post about Zyrre in his filter: On February 05 2016 08:10 Koshi wrote: It actually isn't. I can see him believe that. I can believe it. Then: On February 06 2016 02:58 Koshi wrote: Kush comming in and giving a townread on Palmar and rescind a townread on Zyrre is not doing things. Well, he ended up voting Zurre with kush. 2 I don't like that he townreads Palmar early using a "secret tell" Palmar apparently only does when he's scum. Where is the fucking tell now ? Then, he scumreads Palmar more and more as votes piles up on him, and votes him, but is still against his lynch. In particular, the last post is super weird in the progression: On February 04 2016 20:51 Koshi wrote: Ugh... Palmar is almost certainly not mafia here. I have a pretty good tell for him when he is mafia. It's not this. On February 04 2016 22:31 Koshi wrote: This I can agree with. Would expect Palmar to be even more cocky tbh. On February 06 2016 03:30 Koshi wrote: I am not sure. If Palmar didn't omgus JAT and then left I wouldn't even consider him as possible mafia. Palmar as town can be shit and 100% afk. I have played more than enough times with Palmar to know this. If we vote Palmar and he flips town we just lost an important player for nothing. And I wouldn't even be surprised if it happened. Pure coin flip lynch and results can be disastrous. But if people want to do it I am not opposing the lynch vocally. On February 06 2016 03:48 Koshi wrote: This doesn't proof anything but something funny I saw in database. Just proof that Palmar is also shit as town. On February 06 2016 04:06 Koshi wrote: I got indoor soccer at 2100. But it will take a while after I played and I might only be around on phone depending on what we will do. I am not against a Palmar lynch in theory. But I strongly suggest not lynching him. On February 06 2016 04:12 Koshi wrote: Fuck I need to go........ I disagree with this lynch 100% There is all this progression from "100% town" to "if he's town it's a bad lynch" to "I'm not really against Palmar's lynch but I think we should wait" to finally ... "I disagree with the lynch 100%". IT MAKES NO SENSE, especially 6 minutes after saying "I am not against a Palmar lynch in theory". 3 Finally, I dislike all the random questions / opinions that is in his filter, and that doesn't serve any purpose / does not lead to anything. Examples: On February 05 2016 02:14 Koshi wrote: Also darthfoley might be buddying me because that defense was actually really bad. On February 05 2016 02:54 Koshi wrote: I actually don't think JAT is mafia this game. I feel dirty. On February 05 2016 02:57 Koshi wrote: ritoky is Damdred mafia? On February 05 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote: Damdred his posts have been really bad. Holy mozes. On February 05 2016 20:22 Koshi wrote: Do you have a scumgame of his? I only remember 1 town game. It was horrid. Where is the follow up ? Especially in Moosy's and BF's case, where he shows he has suspicions but don't talk about them anymore. | ||
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