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Koshi
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Do NOT FUCKING COUNTERCLAIM BLUE CLAIMS. | ||
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disformation
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darthfoley
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On February 07 2016 08:25 marvellosity wrote: Okay, so do you take anything further from this? My first thought, if it was mafia 2kp + Hux assassinate: why now? There are a few reasons that i've considered-- i'm sure it's a combo of them. I think the obvious answer is to maximize the amount of guaranteed damage inflicted on N1. Mafia gets guaranteed 3kp N1 with Hux, but I think there could've definitely been strategy for using Hux later, even if it's 2kp N1, 1kp + Hux N2, N3 etc. Using Hux later could've implied a vigi shot/vigi fake claim, it could've indirectly framed someone, or just gotten the town to forget about the assassinate possibility. Using Hux N1, however, has a few benefits. The 3 kp has forced town to already start thinking about end game scenarios: how many mislynches town has, how blue roles will be affected going forward, etc. Basically the 3KP puts town on the defensive and much more passive in its play, because every mislynch digs town a deeper and deeper grave. I think a more hesitant town only benefits mafia. Every wagon will be over scrutinized, and people will get cold feed and wishy washy on reads. Using Hux N1 can also make sure that whoever was making the most progress D1 is donezo, and town doesn't really have any idea who was the person on the right track. It basically makes town analyze 3 dead filters, instead of 2 down the road, making the whole situation more ambiguous. | ||
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darthfoley
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On February 07 2016 08:30 disformation wrote: Also now I am a bit paniky. Cause the VCA clearly indicates that scum kinda shot ppl that were willing to vote palmar. but that is a huge wifom argument. JAT and Damdred voted for Palmar. If that's the case, why does ritoky die? Bluehunting good townies x2? | ||
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On February 07 2016 08:50 darthfoley wrote: it's annoying how this game dies past 7pm. damn europeans! I am around. Just going to play dota. It's just waiting on Palmar tbh. | ||
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disformation
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On February 07 2016 08:49 darthfoley wrote: JAT and Damdred voted for Palmar. If that's the case, why does ritoky die? Bluehunting good townies x2? On February 07 2016 08:18 disformation wrote: Zyrre (8): darthfoley, nooniansoong, Chezinu, boxerfred, marvellosity, Palmar (7): justanothertownie (1): VayneAuthority (1):MoosyDoosy nooniansoong (0): NocturneMage (0), ritoky (0): Onegu (0):, Disformation (0): MoosyDoosy (0): all three were voting palmar. jat unvoted at the last second, but was clear that palmar would need to die. | ||
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darthfoley
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Is it really as simple as Palmar: kill these 3 good players who've been voting for me/on my ass. Is Palmar known for some Italian style vengeance? I just read ritoky's filter for Palmar mentions, and although he voted Palmar, he got on the wagon relatively late and did not seem particularly hardcore for it. Meh this all seems too clean. Maybe it is | ||
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darthfoley
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IIRC and it's marv, wouldn't the marv kill make more sense from mafia!Palmar, especially because marv ended up voting Zyrre EoD because it was the higher % play? | ||
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VayneAuthority
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On February 07 2016 09:09 darthfoley wrote: I remember reading that someone has the best read on Palmar. I think it was either marv or JAT. I can't find the quote though IIRC and it's marv, wouldn't the marv kill make more sense from mafia!Palmar, especially because marv ended up voting Zyrre EoD because it was the higher % play? unless you are implying marv is mafia here I don't really understand what you are getting at. Are you rambling or is there something to this | ||
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disformation
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On February 07 2016 09:09 darthfoley wrote: I remember reading that someone has the best read on Palmar. I think it was either marv or JAT. I can't find the quote though IIRC and it's marv, wouldn't the marv kill make more sense from mafia!Palmar, especially because marv ended up voting Zyrre EoD because it was the higher % play? Yeah, I think that was marv. Might not have shot him for the WIFOM? Hmmmm... Scum might have accepted losing Palmar and tried to shoot ppl that were more dangerous for their other mates? Really getting into wifom land here though. Will try to work on a few tinfoils for both cases (town!Palmar and scum!Palmar) tomorrow, if the day is as dead as I fear it to be. | ||
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NocturneMage
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On February 07 2016 09:16 disformation wrote: Yeah, I think that was marv. Might not have shot him for the WIFOM? Hmmmm... Scum might have accepted losing Palmar and tried to shoot ppl that were more dangerous for their other mates? Really getting into wifom land here though. Will try to work on a few tinfoils for both cases (town!Palmar and scum!Palmar) tomorrow, if the day is as dead as I fear it to be. meh....it could be wifom (what other choice do they have), it could be not, it could be a medic dodge, who knows. GGs JAT/ritoky/Damdred. My vote is on Palmar, and is staying on Palmar all cycle. Good night. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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MoosyDoosy
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On February 07 2016 08:44 Damdred wrote: GG  | ||
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On February 07 2016 09:27 NocturneMage wrote: meh....it could be wifom (what other choice do they have), it could be not, it could be a medic dodge, who knows. GGs JAT/ritoky/Damdred. My vote is on Palmar, and is staying on Palmar all cycle. Good night. maybe it is a lemon-tree? | ||
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