• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:49
CET 10:49
KST 18:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation4Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Terran 1:35 12 Gas Optimization FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1231 users

Star Wars: The Mafia Awaken - Page 59

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 166 Next
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:29 GMT
#1161
On February 06 2016 04:27 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


Same question I said to Rels I will say to you, I pointed out a caveat - he did not have time to play the game most of the cycle. Tell me if that adjusts your expectations. He even stated that in his list post (more or less).


are you his lover or are you related? i dont see how you would know otherwise. he had time to write that one liner so at least he had some time. I mean yes it's totally possible he was busy and all but it's just something that inches his alignment towards the scum side even though it's not a grand slam.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 19:30 GMT
#1162
Yo, NM how confident are you really in your Palmar meta thing?
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 19:30 GMT
#1163
On February 06 2016 04:29 disformation wrote:
Yeah, Zyrre feels like exactly the guy scum wants to push in this situation. (If he is town)
Which is making me hesitant about that guy, too.


I'm seeing enough valid caveats and I feel he should be left to whatever investigatives we have for that reason. Either that or engage him now. One of the two until end of cycle.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:31 GMT
#1164
On February 06 2016 04:28 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:26 Onegu wrote:
So I took meds. And now have to help my mom with something. Need to put my vote somewhere for now.

##Vote JAT


Regardless of your alignment, this is pathetic from you.

how dare you judge. you can want to lynch someone for low activity, but when you call them pathetic that is an insult to yourself by overvaluing the importance of this game compared to real life.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:32 GMT
#1165
btw scott that was a great claim. perfeect timing.
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 19:32 GMT
#1166
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


If it was activity, why did you go from town to null right after one of my posts? And then removed town-read after another of my posts?

"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
February 05 2016 19:33 GMT
#1167
On February 06 2016 04:29 NocturneMage wrote:
Like I'm sorry you are sick, don't get me wrong, but...I just....ugh.

Classical Onegu. What did you expect?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:33 GMT
#1168
On February 06 2016 04:32 Zyrre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


If it was activity, why did you go from town to null right after one of my posts? And then removed town-read after another of my posts?


coincidence. It actually had nothing to do with that post. ALthough that post did nothing to convince me you were town.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 19:34 GMT
#1169
On February 06 2016 04:29 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:27 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


Same question I said to Rels I will say to you, I pointed out a caveat - he did not have time to play the game most of the cycle. Tell me if that adjusts your expectations. He even stated that in his list post (more or less).


are you his lover or are you related? i dont see how you would know otherwise. he had time to write that one liner so at least he had some time. I mean yes it's totally possible he was busy and all but it's just something that inches his alignment towards the scum side even though it's not a grand slam.


So let me articulate this better to use an example from his post

One point against him was how he took the ritoky thing out of context. He ignored the early game play and focused more on the mid cycle. Having enough time to read that one-liner doesn't equate to having enough time to read the thread, read filters in context and then draw a more informed conclusion. How do I know this? I felt I had better reads/understanding cases when I had the 5 hours I did early this morning to read through a shittonne of filters, weed out some people, etc.

Do you understand now what I'm trying to say?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 19:34 GMT
#1170
Yo, Zyrre who you gonna vote for? Wagons are currently Palmar and noon.
Thoughts?
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 19:35 GMT
#1171
On February 06 2016 04:31 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:28 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:26 Onegu wrote:
So I took meds. And now have to help my mom with something. Need to put my vote somewhere for now.

##Vote JAT


Regardless of your alignment, this is pathetic from you.

how dare you judge. you can want to lynch someone for low activity, but when you call them pathetic that is an insult to yourself by overvaluing the importance of this game compared to real life.


Yes, I felt that was bit harsh from myself once I posted it. Apologies.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 19:35 GMT
#1172
Think I need to look at noon's filter.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:36 GMT
#1173
On February 06 2016 04:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:29 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:27 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


Same question I said to Rels I will say to you, I pointed out a caveat - he did not have time to play the game most of the cycle. Tell me if that adjusts your expectations. He even stated that in his list post (more or less).


are you his lover or are you related? i dont see how you would know otherwise. he had time to write that one liner so at least he had some time. I mean yes it's totally possible he was busy and all but it's just something that inches his alignment towards the scum side even though it's not a grand slam.


So let me articulate this better to use an example from his post

One point against him was how he took the ritoky thing out of context. He ignored the early game play and focused more on the mid cycle. Having enough time to read that one-liner doesn't equate to having enough time to read the thread, read filters in context and then draw a more informed conclusion. How do I know this? I felt I had better reads/understanding cases when I had the 5 hours I did early this morning to read through a shittonne of filters, weed out some people, etc.

Do you understand now what I'm trying to say?

yes definitely. but he could have interacted early game or something. he could have done stuff when he was there, but he didnt.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 05 2016 19:36 GMT
#1174
On February 06 2016 04:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:05 boxerfred wrote:
also i reviewed that va/nm thing and I come to the conclusion that my original thought (one of them being mafia) is bullshit. there's no indicator for that and I obviously followed disformation who had this thought first. funny enough, he had it from ritoky who's originally a scumread of mine so wow I should read more details.

This post looks bad. But w.e

Agree.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 19:36 GMT
#1175
On February 06 2016 04:30 disformation wrote:
Yo, NM how confident are you really in your Palmar meta thing?


Very.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:36 GMT
#1176
On February 06 2016 04:35 disformation wrote:
Think I need to look at noon's filter.

DONT DO IT
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:37 GMT
#1177
On February 06 2016 04:36 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:34 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:29 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:27 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


Same question I said to Rels I will say to you, I pointed out a caveat - he did not have time to play the game most of the cycle. Tell me if that adjusts your expectations. He even stated that in his list post (more or less).


are you his lover or are you related? i dont see how you would know otherwise. he had time to write that one liner so at least he had some time. I mean yes it's totally possible he was busy and all but it's just something that inches his alignment towards the scum side even though it's not a grand slam.


So let me articulate this better to use an example from his post

One point against him was how he took the ritoky thing out of context. He ignored the early game play and focused more on the mid cycle. Having enough time to read that one-liner doesn't equate to having enough time to read the thread, read filters in context and then draw a more informed conclusion. How do I know this? I felt I had better reads/understanding cases when I had the 5 hours I did early this morning to read through a shittonne of filters, weed out some people, etc.

Do you understand now what I'm trying to say?

yes definitely. but he could have interacted early game or something. he could have done stuff when he was there, but he didnt.

not saying that makes him scum but it counteracts the townread i had on that one early post.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
February 05 2016 19:38 GMT
#1178
On February 06 2016 04:23 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:11 disformation wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:05 disformation wrote:
like can anyone sell me the palmar lynch without referring to meta?

I think the mentioned cases are strong enough without meta but what exactly is your problem with the meta part of it?

One that probably no one gets, since I mentioned it a few times by now.

No. What I heard from you is that you liked what marv had to say about Palmar which is why we are lynching him. So I ask you what your problem with that is all of a sudden?

okay let me try to explain my thought process here:

1) marv has a decent reason why palmar is scum.
2) nm has a bad reason why palmar is scum + I think NM is scum for that.

One of these two is apparently wrong. Unless both are right and both Palmar and NM are scum bussing for the lulz, which is highly unlikely.

As a bonus I share koshi's notion about lynching Palmar D1.
On the other hand: where the flower has palmar been all day.

Associative reads without any flips are bad. NM could bus as you said yourself. Someone having a bad reason to scumread another player does not make that player town. Also you did not show why what NM said would be a bad reason. Your problem was that the kind of reason he had in general which is completely unrelated to Palmars alignment.
Marv can read Palmar better than anyone else on this site.
On February 06 2016 04:26 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:20 boxerfred wrote:
I want everyone's reads of noon and palmar and marv

marv: probably town. Don't think he would play this much as scum + I sheep damdy's tr on him.
palmar: I like marvs points, I don't like nm's points. His filter doesn't make me hard, it isn't garbage either.
noon: Uh. I am super prone to scum reading him when he is town and I do not know how his scum game. Really do not like him flailing about atm, though.

What's with the constant mentioning of damdred who isn't pushing anything at all? Is he that strong of a townread for you?
On February 06 2016 04:29 disformation wrote:
Yeah, Zyrre feels like exactly the guy scum wants to push in this situation. (If he is town)
Which is making me hesitant about that guy, too.

Sure. But he is also the guy everyone wants to push in this situation if he is scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 05 2016 19:39 GMT
#1179
On February 06 2016 04:27 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:26 Onegu wrote:
So I took meds. And now have to help my mom with something. Need to put my vote somewhere for now.

##Vote JAT


bro i already took care of helping your mom

=D =D =D =D
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:39 GMT
#1180
ya i mean to the point that zyrre is too obvious to be scum. if you look at the wagons, he's not one of them.
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 166 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 258
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 48569
Rain 3456
Hyuk 2847
Backho 419
Soma 379
Rush 267
Pusan 210
JulyZerg 40
Killer 35
sSak 35
[ Show more ]
ZerO 33
NaDa 16
zelot 15
Noble 12
Hm[arnc] 10
Terrorterran 7
Dota 2
XaKoH 389
XcaliburYe148
Counter-Strike
fl0m1825
olofmeister768
shoxiejesuss437
oskar66
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King199
Other Games
ceh9553
Happy222
Pyrionflax142
crisheroes44
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH264
• LUISG 26
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1397
• Stunt514
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 41m
Kung Fu Cup
2h 11m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
13h 11m
The PondCast
1d
RSL Revival
1d
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
1d 2h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 2h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 15h
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IPSL
3 days
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
3 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
4 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.