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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:29 GMT
#1161
On February 06 2016 04:27 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


Same question I said to Rels I will say to you, I pointed out a caveat - he did not have time to play the game most of the cycle. Tell me if that adjusts your expectations. He even stated that in his list post (more or less).


are you his lover or are you related? i dont see how you would know otherwise. he had time to write that one liner so at least he had some time. I mean yes it's totally possible he was busy and all but it's just something that inches his alignment towards the scum side even though it's not a grand slam.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 19:30 GMT
#1162
Yo, NM how confident are you really in your Palmar meta thing?
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 19:30 GMT
#1163
On February 06 2016 04:29 disformation wrote:
Yeah, Zyrre feels like exactly the guy scum wants to push in this situation. (If he is town)
Which is making me hesitant about that guy, too.


I'm seeing enough valid caveats and I feel he should be left to whatever investigatives we have for that reason. Either that or engage him now. One of the two until end of cycle.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:31 GMT
#1164
On February 06 2016 04:28 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:26 Onegu wrote:
So I took meds. And now have to help my mom with something. Need to put my vote somewhere for now.

##Vote JAT


Regardless of your alignment, this is pathetic from you.

how dare you judge. you can want to lynch someone for low activity, but when you call them pathetic that is an insult to yourself by overvaluing the importance of this game compared to real life.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:32 GMT
#1165
btw scott that was a great claim. perfeect timing.
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 19:32 GMT
#1166
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


If it was activity, why did you go from town to null right after one of my posts? And then removed town-read after another of my posts?

"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
February 05 2016 19:33 GMT
#1167
On February 06 2016 04:29 NocturneMage wrote:
Like I'm sorry you are sick, don't get me wrong, but...I just....ugh.

Classical Onegu. What did you expect?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:33 GMT
#1168
On February 06 2016 04:32 Zyrre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


If it was activity, why did you go from town to null right after one of my posts? And then removed town-read after another of my posts?


coincidence. It actually had nothing to do with that post. ALthough that post did nothing to convince me you were town.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 19:34 GMT
#1169
On February 06 2016 04:29 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:27 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


Same question I said to Rels I will say to you, I pointed out a caveat - he did not have time to play the game most of the cycle. Tell me if that adjusts your expectations. He even stated that in his list post (more or less).


are you his lover or are you related? i dont see how you would know otherwise. he had time to write that one liner so at least he had some time. I mean yes it's totally possible he was busy and all but it's just something that inches his alignment towards the scum side even though it's not a grand slam.


So let me articulate this better to use an example from his post

One point against him was how he took the ritoky thing out of context. He ignored the early game play and focused more on the mid cycle. Having enough time to read that one-liner doesn't equate to having enough time to read the thread, read filters in context and then draw a more informed conclusion. How do I know this? I felt I had better reads/understanding cases when I had the 5 hours I did early this morning to read through a shittonne of filters, weed out some people, etc.

Do you understand now what I'm trying to say?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 19:34 GMT
#1170
Yo, Zyrre who you gonna vote for? Wagons are currently Palmar and noon.
Thoughts?
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 19:35 GMT
#1171
On February 06 2016 04:31 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:28 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:26 Onegu wrote:
So I took meds. And now have to help my mom with something. Need to put my vote somewhere for now.

##Vote JAT


Regardless of your alignment, this is pathetic from you.

how dare you judge. you can want to lynch someone for low activity, but when you call them pathetic that is an insult to yourself by overvaluing the importance of this game compared to real life.


Yes, I felt that was bit harsh from myself once I posted it. Apologies.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 19:35 GMT
#1172
Think I need to look at noon's filter.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:36 GMT
#1173
On February 06 2016 04:34 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:29 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:27 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


Same question I said to Rels I will say to you, I pointed out a caveat - he did not have time to play the game most of the cycle. Tell me if that adjusts your expectations. He even stated that in his list post (more or less).


are you his lover or are you related? i dont see how you would know otherwise. he had time to write that one liner so at least he had some time. I mean yes it's totally possible he was busy and all but it's just something that inches his alignment towards the scum side even though it's not a grand slam.


So let me articulate this better to use an example from his post

One point against him was how he took the ritoky thing out of context. He ignored the early game play and focused more on the mid cycle. Having enough time to read that one-liner doesn't equate to having enough time to read the thread, read filters in context and then draw a more informed conclusion. How do I know this? I felt I had better reads/understanding cases when I had the 5 hours I did early this morning to read through a shittonne of filters, weed out some people, etc.

Do you understand now what I'm trying to say?

yes definitely. but he could have interacted early game or something. he could have done stuff when he was there, but he didnt.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 05 2016 19:36 GMT
#1174
On February 06 2016 04:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:05 boxerfred wrote:
also i reviewed that va/nm thing and I come to the conclusion that my original thought (one of them being mafia) is bullshit. there's no indicator for that and I obviously followed disformation who had this thought first. funny enough, he had it from ritoky who's originally a scumread of mine so wow I should read more details.

This post looks bad. But w.e

Agree.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 19:36 GMT
#1175
On February 06 2016 04:30 disformation wrote:
Yo, NM how confident are you really in your Palmar meta thing?


Very.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:36 GMT
#1176
On February 06 2016 04:35 disformation wrote:
Think I need to look at noon's filter.

DONT DO IT
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:37 GMT
#1177
On February 06 2016 04:36 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:34 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:29 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:27 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:26 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:23 NocturneMage wrote:
At Noon -

On February 06 2016 02:59 Zyrre wrote:
Noonian, care to explain why you switched me from "guaranteed town" to null or less in two posts?



i read your filter someone and thought about stuff.
also i was originally thinking your first post about no pressure was townie. but then i found a case against you that pointed out that if you were happy to be town, why no early activity? and that point made it seem more likely that your first post wasn't genuine.
and marv called me on drugs and all which I'm not anymore. Im sober now. BUt it made me be like damn maybe he's right, maybe my points actually don't hold that much weight. So I thought them over again and your reads didn't really seem that organic or nuanced.


Same question I said to Rels I will say to you, I pointed out a caveat - he did not have time to play the game most of the cycle. Tell me if that adjusts your expectations. He even stated that in his list post (more or less).


are you his lover or are you related? i dont see how you would know otherwise. he had time to write that one liner so at least he had some time. I mean yes it's totally possible he was busy and all but it's just something that inches his alignment towards the scum side even though it's not a grand slam.


So let me articulate this better to use an example from his post

One point against him was how he took the ritoky thing out of context. He ignored the early game play and focused more on the mid cycle. Having enough time to read that one-liner doesn't equate to having enough time to read the thread, read filters in context and then draw a more informed conclusion. How do I know this? I felt I had better reads/understanding cases when I had the 5 hours I did early this morning to read through a shittonne of filters, weed out some people, etc.

Do you understand now what I'm trying to say?

yes definitely. but he could have interacted early game or something. he could have done stuff when he was there, but he didnt.

not saying that makes him scum but it counteracts the townread i had on that one early post.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16325 Posts
February 05 2016 19:38 GMT
#1178
On February 06 2016 04:23 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:11 disformation wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:05 disformation wrote:
like can anyone sell me the palmar lynch without referring to meta?

I think the mentioned cases are strong enough without meta but what exactly is your problem with the meta part of it?

One that probably no one gets, since I mentioned it a few times by now.

No. What I heard from you is that you liked what marv had to say about Palmar which is why we are lynching him. So I ask you what your problem with that is all of a sudden?

okay let me try to explain my thought process here:

1) marv has a decent reason why palmar is scum.
2) nm has a bad reason why palmar is scum + I think NM is scum for that.

One of these two is apparently wrong. Unless both are right and both Palmar and NM are scum bussing for the lulz, which is highly unlikely.

As a bonus I share koshi's notion about lynching Palmar D1.
On the other hand: where the flower has palmar been all day.

Associative reads without any flips are bad. NM could bus as you said yourself. Someone having a bad reason to scumread another player does not make that player town. Also you did not show why what NM said would be a bad reason. Your problem was that the kind of reason he had in general which is completely unrelated to Palmars alignment.
Marv can read Palmar better than anyone else on this site.
On February 06 2016 04:26 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:20 boxerfred wrote:
I want everyone's reads of noon and palmar and marv

marv: probably town. Don't think he would play this much as scum + I sheep damdy's tr on him.
palmar: I like marvs points, I don't like nm's points. His filter doesn't make me hard, it isn't garbage either.
noon: Uh. I am super prone to scum reading him when he is town and I do not know how his scum game. Really do not like him flailing about atm, though.

What's with the constant mentioning of damdred who isn't pushing anything at all? Is he that strong of a townread for you?
On February 06 2016 04:29 disformation wrote:
Yeah, Zyrre feels like exactly the guy scum wants to push in this situation. (If he is town)
Which is making me hesitant about that guy, too.

Sure. But he is also the guy everyone wants to push in this situation if he is scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 05 2016 19:39 GMT
#1179
On February 06 2016 04:27 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:26 Onegu wrote:
So I took meds. And now have to help my mom with something. Need to put my vote somewhere for now.

##Vote JAT


bro i already took care of helping your mom

=D =D =D =D
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 05 2016 19:39 GMT
#1180
ya i mean to the point that zyrre is too obvious to be scum. if you look at the wagons, he's not one of them.
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