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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 18:11 GMT
#601
page 15/16 - boxerfred/ritoky

My read on ritoky doesn't change here - he's calling boxerfred out to figure out the motivations behind what he's saying.

Both players (posts 290/296) complain about the other's presentation of ideas, bf's point 4 makes sense re-reading the ritoky/disformation exchange but the rest he's trying to break down what he sees. His phrasing "constructing a whole lot of reasons over a four-line post" indicates to me the presentation of ideas could be colouring his read. My only beef with boxerfred is the last part - he's saying "lynch anyway" but the very next sentence says he's going to ignore him and trust someone else's read on him. That's a towny trait to defer to - why BF ignores it or doesn't see it right away - I'm also going to place it under the "bad" category rather than "mafia" since I would think mafia would be a bit more careful about that.

posts 303/309 fall into the resolution part of what I'd expect from town on town, continuing with posts between Rels/BF/ritoky.

When I've played with ritoky and he's been mafia he's been out to get people, I don't see that agenda here. Rels same deal, he's trying to flesh things out. BF is going on about (381/382/390) as to why he still feels ritoky is scum and it's definitely not out of bounds for town play given the perspectives he's put out. He's unafraid/stubborn, so I think he's town.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 18:12 GMT
#602
I'm nearly out of time now, so I stopped at page 22. Skimming the rest of the way through, it looks like JAT appears town for his inquiries on Palmar/Koshi, bold tone about it as well.

Skimmed through Koshi's filter (lack of substance I think) and his progression on ritoky is basically WTF. Will elaborate in next post real quick.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 18:15 GMT
#603
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
I had a good night of sleep.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 18:26 GMT
#604
On February 04 2016 19:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 18:40 boxerfred wrote:
"I am gonna lynch you even if you're town"? "I am going to ignore your post because I just made up a bad reasoning on why they suck"?

This sentence I can agree with.

Also for the amount of posts ritoky made I don't know about him yet. Which is odd.


On February 04 2016 20:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 20:02 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit


says the guy who "gives up after 50 words"

But your posts are so boring :/


On February 04 2016 20:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 20:17 boxerfred wrote:
On February 04 2016 20:07 Palmar wrote:
Also bf sort of doesn't really sound like mafia.

I find it weird that he would go after the entirety of ritoky's post, it's a massive stretch, but I guess there's not really much that has happened in the game, so maybe stretches are the best he's got. He's at least actually trying to do something.

I like that he actually is keeping the pressure on ritoky despite some pushback, this last post about ritoky just rehashing the information sounds like genuinely believes that he has something there.

Could you then, instead of looking at me, look at ritoky and review my case?

Just wait in the shadows bro. I don't think Ritoky is the lynch here.


So here's what is weird about Koshi. He's not elaborating initially on why he can't make a read on ritoky then he responds to ritoky that his posts are boring. (Generally that's a scummy trait - not to mention I disagree with Koshi's conclusion, because ritoky has been anything but boring, trying to push the discussion forward especially early this cycle.)

At this point he should be scumreading (or at best nullreading - but the basis is extremely unclear) ritoky.

In his filter and in this exchange (bf/ritoky) he tells ritoky's biggest pusher to "wait in the shadows"? And saying that ritoky "isn't the lynch"? where did that come from?

This is the opposite of what I'd expect from someone who isn't impressed with ritoky - if someone is scumreading someone you are ambiguous on, where is the thought process coming from at the very least to say "wait in the shadows" when he's townreading bf (post 394). Nor is he even making any effort to figure out ritoky's alignment.

It's just odd at best for someone who I understand is normally keen to solve the game or try. Like if I had to take that train of thought on ritoky alone I'd say it's hedging which is scummy. There's clearly evidence to the contrary, others have made reads on him both ways, including bf at latest.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 04 2016 18:27 GMT
#605
I really need to take off. I'll try and tag up sometime late tonight.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
February 04 2016 18:33 GMT
#606
Im here I am VT I am sick.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 18:56 GMT
#607
On February 05 2016 03:26 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 19:37 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 18:40 boxerfred wrote:
"I am gonna lynch you even if you're town"? "I am going to ignore your post because I just made up a bad reasoning on why they suck"?

This sentence I can agree with.

Also for the amount of posts ritoky made I don't know about him yet. Which is odd.


Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 20:03 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 20:02 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit


says the guy who "gives up after 50 words"

But your posts are so boring :/


Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 20:20 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 20:17 boxerfred wrote:
On February 04 2016 20:07 Palmar wrote:
Also bf sort of doesn't really sound like mafia.

I find it weird that he would go after the entirety of ritoky's post, it's a massive stretch, but I guess there's not really much that has happened in the game, so maybe stretches are the best he's got. He's at least actually trying to do something.

I like that he actually is keeping the pressure on ritoky despite some pushback, this last post about ritoky just rehashing the information sounds like genuinely believes that he has something there.

Could you then, instead of looking at me, look at ritoky and review my case?

Just wait in the shadows bro. I don't think Ritoky is the lynch here.


So here's what is weird about Koshi. He's not elaborating initially on why he can't make a read on ritoky then he responds to ritoky that his posts are boring. (Generally that's a scummy trait - not to mention I disagree with Koshi's conclusion, because ritoky has been anything but boring, trying to push the discussion forward especially early this cycle.)

At this point he should be scumreading (or at best nullreading - but the basis is extremely unclear) ritoky.

In his filter and in this exchange (bf/ritoky) he tells ritoky's biggest pusher to "wait in the shadows"? And saying that ritoky "isn't the lynch"? where did that come from?

This is the opposite of what I'd expect from someone who isn't impressed with ritoky - if someone is scumreading someone you are ambiguous on, where is the thought process coming from at the very least to say "wait in the shadows" when he's townreading bf (post 394). Nor is he even making any effort to figure out ritoky's alignment.

It's just odd at best for someone who I understand is normally keen to solve the game or try. Like if I had to take that train of thought on ritoky alone I'd say it's hedging which is scummy. There's clearly evidence to the contrary, others have made reads on him both ways, including bf at latest.

Pretty long winded way to ask my read on ritoky. But I forgive you: Could lynch, but not today.
I had a good night of sleep.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 04 2016 19:40 GMT
#608
My posts aren't bad I have some good reads scattered about.

Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
February 04 2016 19:40 GMT
#609
On February 04 2016 23:36 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 23:32 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:29 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.

So if we read Palmar's filter and know what to look for, we could find a tell that Palmar is town ?

We should just threaten to lynch him until he coughs it up

Lynching me just brings me my salvation. One of the things Jeezus and I have incommon.

I see a problem with this analogy. Did He need saving? Does one die to save himself or another? Well, one could die to self figuratively for the sake of another benefiting.. and by doing so.. loses himself and thus saves himself! It could be true for peoples... but for Him... He needed not saving to begin with. He died for another.. in fact for his enemies.. He showed the greatest love to his enemies.

So dear Koshi, how does us lynching you bring you your salvation?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
February 04 2016 19:41 GMT
#610
On February 05 2016 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 00:23 Koshi wrote:
Ofc JAT puts the townie thinking in red and the dumb part in green. Just to make me think he is a dumbass till I read his explanation.

I always love to make you think you are a dumbass. It happens so rarely. The colors itself didn't mean anything - it was just to differentiate.

COLORS DO HAVE MEANING!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
February 04 2016 19:45 GMT
#611
That's right guys. I R Chez.

He is a story: In the shadows, lurks my follower. He watches as I play. He learns the effort in which I play. Free from death, Free from shame, I post without restraint. For Chez himself knows not what will come next, but knows the methods to which he takes. He knows not what it fully entails, but each day posting learns a little more. Who am I, what is my method? How do I play? How do I win? One day, in a life to come, Chez will know the way he plays.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
February 04 2016 19:57 GMT
#612
Hey guys,

Does anyone here know of any Jedi that can assist me? I was reading this book that says time is all relative and that the future can be the past or present. depending on the net time-forced applied on the system or medium you dwell. It speaks a a distance universe far far away. The author claims to have spoken to an inhabitant in a galaxy in this distant verse. I was wondering if a Jedi can help channel communication with this individual. I heard I needed to invest some resources and ship them to his galaxy in order to claim my interest in the future, but I lost the address when I lost the book. A Jedi would be useful to contact this individual. Could anyone here help me?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 19:59 GMT
#613
On February 05 2016 04:40 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:32 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:29 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.

So if we read Palmar's filter and know what to look for, we could find a tell that Palmar is town ?

We should just threaten to lynch him until he coughs it up

Lynching me just brings me my salvation. One of the things Jeezus and I have incommon.

I see a problem with this analogy. Did He need saving? Does one die to save himself or another? Well, one could die to self figuratively for the sake of another benefiting.. and by doing so.. loses himself and thus saves himself! It could be true for peoples... but for Him... He needed not saving to begin with. He died for another.. in fact for his enemies.. He showed the greatest love to his enemies.

So dear Koshi, how does us lynching you bring you your salvation?

Call me the selfish Jeezus.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 20:04 GMT
#614
On February 04 2016 18:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 12:16 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 12:11 darthfoley wrote:
On February 04 2016 12:07 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 11:01 disformation wrote:
phone post from bed.
nearly forgot.
@NocturneMage:
care to remind me what you think of meta reads?


this post is terrible in so many ways.


Why?


1) notifying that he is going out of his way to post from an inconvenient place -> notice me senpai
2) "almost forgot" -> something he must tell us! must be important
3) deferring to nocturnemage
a) now confirmed not important
b) if town is deferring to someone who's alignment he doesn't know for no reason
4) trying to discredit meta which CAN be a useful tool
5) smiley face cuz clearly "i'm joking gaiz"

nothing about this post is good in any way. all of it is legit hot trash.

Mm this is good.

What does this mean for my alignment? I haven't seen you give a read on me in your filter.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 20:12 GMT
#615
I am sooo tired. This is not normal.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 20:19 GMT
#616
I am currently mesmerized by Chez's posts. No clue of how to respond to these.
Halp?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 20:23 GMT
#617
You don't understand it? Are you baiting?
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 20:27 GMT
#618
On February 05 2016 05:23 Koshi wrote:
You don't understand it? Are you baiting?

Should have specified the post in question.
On February 05 2016 04:57 Chezinu wrote:
Hey guys,

Does anyone here know of any Jedi that can assist me? I was reading this book that says time is all relative and that the future can be the past or present. depending on the net time-forced applied on the system or medium you dwell. It speaks a a distance universe far far away. The author claims to have spoken to an inhabitant in a galaxy in this distant verse. I was wondering if a Jedi can help channel communication with this individual. I heard I needed to invest some resources and ship them to his galaxy in order to claim my interest in the future, but I lost the address when I lost the book. A Jedi would be useful to contact this individual. Could anyone here help me?

No clue what is going on here.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 20:28 GMT
#619
lol you just claimed mafia

##unvote
##vote disformation
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 20:29 GMT
#620
wat?
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