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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 21:17 GMT
#641
Also HtS got back to my PM: the strong arm thing appears to be a role and scum does not have a free strong arm shot for their faction.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 04 2016 21:22 GMT
#642
OK NM this is your reasonning as to why VA is scummy. Help me understand 'cause I think it's super shitty at best and very scummy at worst.
On February 05 2016 01:08 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 01:01 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 00:48 NocturneMage wrote:
On February 05 2016 00:25 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 00:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
you are really nitpicking rels, it is highly unlikely JAT is scum here.

can whoever is here look at nocturnemage? I cant believe he never posted again zZ

Yep I said the same like 5 posts ago. That won't stop me from calling out illogical things I see.
I'm waiting for NM to answer something that didn't make sense from his PoV unless I'm missing something.

VA's first post when I first read it jumped out as a lame excuse to me for calling someone mafia that didn't make someone necessarily mafia. There's nothing wrong to me making town reads (or forming a "town circle" as others might put it) or trying to do so and then proceeding from there. Especially that early in the game there's not a whole lot to go off of where you can have a reliable scum read. That's why I felt that entry was forced.

You don't think that anymore ?


Read the exchange I had with him about cherry picking. The first post jumped out at me for scummy reasons. When I read the Damdred/VA exchange in full he looked worse IMO. He claimed a reaction test but didn't make a conclusion in the exchange itself - it took my intervention before he said "btw he's town" (paraphrasing).

This is point 1 - VA made a bad post that he covered up with a "reaction test"; you can tell it was not a reaction test because he didn't state the result of the test before you pressured him.
Can you explain to me how the following post doesn't imply that VA has a townread on Damdred ?
On February 04 2016 10:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On February 04 2016 10:22 Damdred wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
also damdred why did you say you were only gonna talk about scumreads before game and you already have a spammy filter informing us of town reads and asking others to do work


I am not being spammy at the least and have only answered questions directed at me.

Vut how am I asking others to do work for me specifically?


I know I was kidding, I just wanted to see if you reacted defensively.

But anyways I'm starting to spam too now. guess ill wait for stuff to happen



On February 05 2016 01:08 NocturneMage wrote:
The whole thing just struck me as odd from a town side of things especially when (ignoring meta) being defensive for most people is generally a scummy trait.

This is point 2 - VA uses Damdred's defensiveness to townread him, when defensiveness usually comes from scum => VA read makes no sense.
This is fucking bullshit and I want to kill you just for writing that. This is so wrong I have a hard time explaining it.
- VA doesn't use a "general scumtell", he uses a "meta scumtell", so this point DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING ... unless you disagree with the meta read
- defensiveness => scum is not even true
I seriously doubt you can explain to me how you could ever think that.


On February 05 2016 01:08 NocturneMage wrote:
And current page, I also can't understand the rationale he's discussing when there is a strongman shot that can be used anytime, but that's a separate point.

3. VA is trying to get blues to out without mentionning the strongman so he can snipe blues.
I can understand this. But since he's said that was precisely his attention: making scum use the strongarm on named VT so other blues can be safer. Now do you believe it ? What do you think of his statement ? Was it a scum motivated plan ?
On February 05 2016 02:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
I actually suggested the named VT thing with regards to the strongman shot, seems like good bait to have that killed rather then actually good role

and i thought i played 2 normals since I came back but I guess I only played unoriginal mafia by artanis marv.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 04 2016 21:25 GMT
#643
On February 05 2016 06:17 disformation wrote:
Also HtS got back to my PM: the strong arm thing appears to be a role and scum does not have a free strong arm shot for their faction.

Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot".
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 21:26 GMT
#644
On February 05 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:17 disformation wrote:
Also HtS got back to my PM: the strong arm thing appears to be a role and scum does not have a free strong arm shot for their faction.

Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot".

I agree and am kinda confused by this.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 21:27 GMT
#645
Yeah, nevermind. It is factional not a role.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 04 2016 21:28 GMT
#646
On February 05 2016 06:27 disformation wrote:
Yeah, nevermind. It is factional not a role.

OK. Guess you are town then. (=
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2016 21:29 GMT
#647
On February 05 2016 06:03 disformation wrote:
Eh? In my feeble understanding of the rule only applied to ppl who never played with you before and call you scum or something?

no you're right. i dunno what's going on with that either :>

well, call him scum for being indecipherable (ish). which you didnt
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 21:29 GMT
#648
On February 05 2016 06:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:03 disformation wrote:
Eh? In my feeble understanding of the rule only applied to ppl who never played with you before and call you scum or something?

no you're right. i dunno what's going on with that either :>

well, call him scum for being indecipherable (ish). which you didnt

Probably getting trolled by koshi, palmar and chezinu then. -.-
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2016 21:30 GMT
#649
btw as for what i wrote on kush - "but he could just be being an ass" or something similar

then he comes in "but maybe i just like to troll you guys"

yeah that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2016 21:31 GMT
#650
On February 05 2016 06:28 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:27 disformation wrote:
Yeah, nevermind. It is factional not a role.

OK. Guess you are town then. (=

i'm inclined to agree

although this is why host interactions shouldn't be talked about in the thread
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 21:32 GMT
#651
On February 05 2016 06:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:28 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:27 disformation wrote:
Yeah, nevermind. It is factional not a role.

OK. Guess you are town then. (=

i'm inclined to agree

although this is why host interactions shouldn't be talked about in the thread

He was very obviously town anyway. Kinda dumb but not an offense.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 21:32 GMT
#652
Yeah, sry. =/
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
February 04 2016 21:34 GMT
#653
On February 04 2016 10:48 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote:
On February 04 2016 08:25 Zyrre wrote:
Sweet, I like being town. A lot less pressure.


Wanted to point this out. To be fair, I have done this as town before, but it's worth noting.

On February 04 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote:
I hate this game already.

hi

hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you.


Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan

I followed the PYP game with Koshi and Palmar,[...][/QUOTE ]
Not sure I correctly understand that sentence. That with is kinda confusing me.
Also good to know since VA, Rels and me where also in PYP, so you I am interested in seeing how you read those three when compared to PYP. Rels hasn't posted yet here, so you don't need to do so now.
Mainly want this post in my filter to remember to ask you about those three. xD


On February 05 2016 05:36 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:28 Koshi wrote:
lol you just claimed mafia

##unvote
##vote disformation

Since you are not actually voting for me in the voting thread, I assume this is a joke?
Really confused here.


On February 05 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:17 disformation wrote:
Also HtS got back to my PM: the strong arm thing appears to be a role and scum does not have a free strong arm shot for their faction.

Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot".

I agree and am kinda confused by this.


Confusion is of the darkside...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 21:35 GMT
#654
On February 05 2016 06:34 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 10:48 disformation wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote:
On February 04 2016 08:25 Zyrre wrote:
Sweet, I like being town. A lot less pressure.


Wanted to point this out. To be fair, I have done this as town before, but it's worth noting.

On February 04 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote:
I hate this game already.

hi

hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you.


Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan

I followed the PYP game with Koshi and Palmar,[...][/QUOTE ]
Not sure I correctly understand that sentence. That with is kinda confusing me.
Also good to know since VA, Rels and me where also in PYP, so you I am interested in seeing how you read those three when compared to PYP. Rels hasn't posted yet here, so you don't need to do so now.
Mainly want this post in my filter to remember to ask you about those three. xD


Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:36 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:28 Koshi wrote:
lol you just claimed mafia

##unvote
##vote disformation

Since you are not actually voting for me in the voting thread, I assume this is a joke?
Really confused here.


Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:17 disformation wrote:
Also HtS got back to my PM: the strong arm thing appears to be a role and scum does not have a free strong arm shot for their faction.

Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot".

I agree and am kinda confused by this.


Confusion is of the darkside...

I thought speaking in absolutes is of the dark side?
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
February 04 2016 21:36 GMT
#655
On February 05 2016 06:35 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:34 Chezinu wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:48 disformation wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote:
On February 04 2016 08:25 Zyrre wrote:
Sweet, I like being town. A lot less pressure.


Wanted to point this out. To be fair, I have done this as town before, but it's worth noting.

On February 04 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote:
I hate this game already.

hi

hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you.


Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan

I followed the PYP game with Koshi and Palmar,[...][/QUOTE ]
Not sure I correctly understand that sentence. That with is kinda confusing me.
Also good to know since VA, Rels and me where also in PYP, so you I am interested in seeing how you read those three when compared to PYP. Rels hasn't posted yet here, so you don't need to do so now.
Mainly want this post in my filter to remember to ask you about those three. xD


On February 05 2016 05:36 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:28 Koshi wrote:
lol you just claimed mafia

##unvote
##vote disformation

Since you are not actually voting for me in the voting thread, I assume this is a joke?
Really confused here.


On February 05 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:17 disformation wrote:
Also HtS got back to my PM: the strong arm thing appears to be a role and scum does not have a free strong arm shot for their faction.

Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot".

I agree and am kinda confused by this.


Confusion is of the darkside...

I thought speaking in absolutes is of the dark side?

Welcome to the Brown Side, where Colors Do Matter!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2016 21:37 GMT
#656
no, confusion is very much not of the dark side. certainly not in mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2016 21:38 GMT
#657
kinda scummy to misapply your own rule tbh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 04 2016 21:42 GMT
#658
On February 05 2016 06:36 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:35 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:34 Chezinu wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:48 disformation wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote:
On February 04 2016 08:25 Zyrre wrote:
Sweet, I like being town. A lot less pressure.


Wanted to point this out. To be fair, I have done this as town before, but it's worth noting.

On February 04 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote:
I hate this game already.

hi

hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you.


Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan

I followed the PYP game with Koshi and Palmar,[...][/QUOTE ]
Not sure I correctly understand that sentence. That with is kinda confusing me.
Also good to know since VA, Rels and me where also in PYP, so you I am interested in seeing how you read those three when compared to PYP. Rels hasn't posted yet here, so you don't need to do so now.
Mainly want this post in my filter to remember to ask you about those three. xD


On February 05 2016 05:36 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:28 Koshi wrote:
lol you just claimed mafia

##unvote
##vote disformation

Since you are not actually voting for me in the voting thread, I assume this is a joke?
Really confused here.


On February 05 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:17 disformation wrote:
Also HtS got back to my PM: the strong arm thing appears to be a role and scum does not have a free strong arm shot for their faction.

Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot".

I agree and am kinda confused by this.


Confusion is of the darkside...

I thought speaking in absolutes is of the dark side?

Welcome to the Brown Side, where Colors Do Matter!

Since you are welcoming I assume this is very much a good thing?
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
February 04 2016 21:43 GMT
#659
On February 05 2016 06:38 marvellosity wrote:
kinda scummy to misapply your own rule tbh.

Koshi started it!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
February 04 2016 21:46 GMT
#660
On February 05 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:
yo Chez, Onegu. I will push for your lynch if you're still useless at deadline.
BUT RELS THIS IS UNFAIR ??? LOOK AT THAT GUY OVER THERE BEING USELESS TOO
Shut up. This also applies to other useless people (Kush, Moosy, Zyrre). Happy ?



Hey rels keep trying to policy lynch me I hear it works wonders.
Try TL Mafia!!!
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