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justanothertownie
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 04 2016 13:11 NocturneMage wrote: No because you are scumreading me for something that don't make me mafia. Your side of the exchange was a grand total of two posts, the second of which was meta - under normal circumstances defensiveness is usually a scummy trait. You not saying it explicitly then was odd to me (no conclusion from the reaction test or his response to it). On February 05 2016 01:08 NocturneMage wrote: The whole thing just struck me as odd from a town side of things especially when (ignoring meta) being defensive for most people is generally a scummy trait. These. Why are you saying that when VA said it was a specific Damdred's meta ? You HAVE to disagree with the "Damdred defensive = town" meta, otherwise it doesn't make sense that you repeat it. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Really have trouble following NM's thoughts this game. Which feels really off, he is usually pretty logical (as either alignment) and points out great stuff (as town). He did replace into a bunch of games and did skip D1 therefore (e.g. Dark Tournament, Outlaw Mafia), so I could see a town!NocturneMage struggle with D1. On the other hand this would also be true for scum!NocturneMage... Not liking his posts so far... leaning scum. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
I think you're reading too much into a few cheeky posts at the beginning of the game. Nothing was really going on by that point, so I didn't feel the need to be super serious. I'm just not understanding why you aren't holding others to this similar standard of scum indicativeness; Zyrre, who made the "woo i'm town" post hasn't posted since and only NM seems to notice. He's also EU time which makes it even more sus imo. Not sure why other people can post shit memes and make jokes, but when I say "roger Gold leader" in a Star Wars themed game early D1, you scum read me for it. I literally said "i am here guyzzz"... like why would I ever be so literal in my phrasing if I were mafia? This whole poke on me seems a little overzealous to me. I understand probing, but this is pointless. When I say that I'll be back in some hours, but still make a post, I simply don't have the time to make in depth posts or filter dive, but I have enough time (~5 minutes) to defend myself from rather toothless accusations. @Koshi I appreciate your compliment. I hope I will continue to impress later, when I have time to actually analyze interactions in a meaningful way. Put me in, coach. | ||
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justanothertownie
16318 Posts
On February 05 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote: VA too srs. Gives me the heebie jeebies Yes, I had the same thought. Mafia Vayne tends to be very reasonable and correct. The problem is that I remember him saying "I want to change my meta" at some point but that he couldn't because once he cares or tries to be reasonable on day1 everyone automatically assumes that he is mafia. Which makes me feel somewhat sorry for him. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On February 05 2016 01:48 marvellosity wrote: VA too srs. Gives me the heebie jeebies I did just play back 2 back experimentals where I got killed off early in both so I've been kinda itching to play  Anyways I know we haven't played in a while so you should look at my recent games, I have attempted to improve my day 1 | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote: @Rels, and a tiny bit of Koshi shade I think you're reading too much into a few cheeky posts at the beginning of the game. Nothing was really going on by that point, so I didn't feel the need to be super serious. I'm just not understanding why you aren't holding others to this similar standard of scum indicativeness; Zyrre, who made the "woo i'm town" post hasn't posted since and only NM seems to notice. He's also EU time which makes it even more sus imo. Not sure why other people can post shit memes and make jokes, but when I say "roger Gold leader" in a Star Wars themed game early D1, you scum read me for it. I literally said "i am here guyzzz"... like why would I ever be so literal in my phrasing if I were mafia? This whole poke on me seems a little overzealous to me. I understand probing, but this is pointless. When I say that I'll be back in some hours, but still make a post, I simply don't have the time to make in depth posts or filter dive, but I have enough time (~5 minutes) to defend myself from rather toothless accusations. @Koshi I appreciate your compliment. I hope I will continue to impress later, when I have time to actually analyze interactions in a meaningful way. Put me in, coach. Make sure you deliver padawan | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On February 05 2016 02:01 VayneAuthority wrote: I did just play back 2 back experimentals where I got killed off early in both so I've been kinda itching to play Anyways I know we haven't played in a while so you should look at my recent games, I have attempted to improve my day 1 I'll do so... possibly tomorrow. I don't know if they're in the database, do you know the names of the last couple off the top of your head? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Normally I am not sure which of the approaches (claiming right off the bat vs waiting until in danger of lynch) is better, but this game scum has a "free" strong arm shot, so claiming right off the bat seems very not good. xD | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On February 05 2016 02:04 disformation wrote: Ah. Also at the named VT stuff: Normally I am not sure which of the approaches (claiming right off the bat vs waiting until in danger of lynch) is better, but this game scum has a "free" strong arm shot, so claiming right off the bat seems very not good. xD where? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On February 05 2016 02:04 disformation wrote: Ah. Also at the named VT stuff: Normally I am not sure which of the approaches (claiming right off the bat vs waiting until in danger of lynch) is better, but this game scum has a "free" strong arm shot, so claiming right off the bat seems very not good. xD Ah lol. Now I understand. Scum got a free blue shot. Pretty insane tbh. Vig shouldn't D1 imo. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I nthe OP. Last role. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Alright, clearly I'm doing a terrible job explaining this because no one is understanding what I'm trying to say here. Going to try and refer post by post if that helps: First, Rels, my issue is not the townread. It's how he stated it and his tone in coming about it (post 238). Try and see this from the perspective of someone who's not played with this guy before. If I'm being bad or nitpicky, whatever I'm just pointing something that looked off. After Damdred responds, he's said he's kidding (post 241) then why would you say "I just wanted to see if you reacted defensively" as if he IS trying to get something out of that? That's what I put emphasis on. That's why just reading it, I expected a conclusion. And then only in post 266, he STATES that (presumably) based on meta Damdred is town. Why would you expect me to know that when I'm first reading it. Based on what you said, I POSTED after it, yes but that's because I was catching up. Damdred being defensive = town - generally I associate defensiveness with being scummy but my issue was that he didn't state ANY conclusion in post 241. He stated A conclusion after the fact. Does this at least make a little more sense now? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
ah yea. Gloves are off then | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On February 04 2016 10:55 ritoky wrote: also VA might be mafia cuz he posted 3x w/o calling someone mafia or town or voting on someone; which is outside his normal town meta. On February 05 2016 01:20 VayneAuthority wrote: Also Ritoky was mostly likely joking so the fact you took the bait on that is also lolz FWIW, doesn't look a joking tone or a reaction test to me. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On February 04 2016 22:59 marvellosity wrote: not sure it makes him more likely mafia, but i definitely don't think it's townpoints either agree. my shitty attitude this game has nothing to do with my alignment. Anyway I don't think I play bold as scum. In my last scumgame I opened with a shitcase on vayne or something. Usually I'll give some effort to look townie day 1 before I completely stop giving a fuck by day 2. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote: @Rels, and a tiny bit of Koshi shade I think you're reading too much into a few cheeky posts at the beginning of the game. Nothing was really going on by that point, so I didn't feel the need to be super serious. I'm just not understanding why you aren't holding others to this similar standard of scum indicativeness; Zyrre, who made the "woo i'm town" post hasn't posted since and only NM seems to notice. He's also EU time which makes it even more sus imo. Yep, Zyrre is useless along with Onegu, Moosy and maybe others, and if the lynch was right now one of those would die. That fact doesn't forbid me to talk about things I find weird. On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote: Not sure why other people can post shit memes and make jokes This doesn't prove anything and it's a bad defense. On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote: but when I say "roger Gold leader" in a Star Wars themed game early D1, you scum read me for it. I literally said "i am here guyzzz"... like why would I ever be so literal in my phrasing if I were mafia? This whole poke on me seems a little overzealous to me. I understand probing, but this is pointless. When I say that I'll be back in some hours, but still make a post, I simply don't have the time to make in depth posts or filter dive, but I have enough time (~5 minutes) to defend myself from rather toothless accusations. Here you say I scumread for two things that are false: for a shitpost and for saying you "be back in some hours, but still make a post". I don't scumread you for that nor do I find any of it indicative of anything. What I found suspicious was your third post in the game: I didn't like that you entered the thread twice, the second time after you've been called out for posting and not saying anything. That's it. Don't make up things. So. I didn't ask you to answer my post about you 'casue you can't answer it. It's a small scum indicator you can't defend against so don't waste your time and prove you're town starting now. What I DID ask you about was: On February 04 2016 18:39 Rels wrote: "hearsay" ? What did you not like in his explanation ? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Oh that is a role? The wording makes me think it is 100% in? Like: On February 02 2016 23:35 Half the Sky wrote: Cast of Characters Starkiller Base Superweapon ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rdGzY4u.jpg) The scumteam have one strongman shot they may use against any blue role which passes through all protection. The target, if blue, will die at phase change. This shot may be used at day or night when the mafia team notify the host. If the shot hits a non-blue role, the shot is spent. The bold part. "The scumteam have a one strongman shot". Doesn't imply to me that this is bound to a role. Will PM HtS. | ||
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