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VayneAuthority
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Koshi
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On February 05 2016 00:22 VayneAuthority wrote: you are really nitpicking rels, it is highly unlikely JAT is scum here. can whoever is here look at nocturnemage? I cant believe he never posted again zZ why "highly" unlikely? | ||
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justanothertownie
16326 Posts
On February 05 2016 00:42 VayneAuthority wrote: well it would depend on who it is but gives a confirmed town basis. What is the cons? This is just lazy. The fact that you know someone is town does not automatically make that person sheepworthy. What is the goal of this line of thought anyways? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 05 2016 00:33 Damdred wrote: I think my answer is implied later on, but yes I haven't revealed my ritoky read and I am trying not to shit up the thread with long town lists currently. Now rels, your Darth read stems from coming in not doing things leaving coming back when mentioned and doing things. Why is that super indicative of him here when your initial read neglected to look at his small later contributions? It is not super indicative of anything. I did one post that explained what I didn't like, if you don't agree you can explain what is wrong with it: On February 04 2016 18:33 Rels wrote: I have a bad feeling about this post. Here are his first posts almost 2 hours before: So here is what darth did: 1 - enter the thread "I am there" 2 - shit post ----- 2 hours pass ------- 3 - enter the thread "I am there" I don't like this repetition. There is no excuse in the first posts, like "I'll be there in 2 hours I'm working right now". It also happens 20 minutes after being called out by disfo for being there and not doing anything. This might be indicative of scum wanting to enter the thread early just to show he's there while not doing anything; but after being called out for doing exactly that, coming back to show he's playing the game seriously. I never talked about it again unless someone talked to me about it, so I have no idea why you say "why is that super indicative of him". His other later contributions are NAI to me, maybe the white knight is a small town indicator but I'm not convinced. I'm waiting to what he answers to my question and what he does from now on. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On February 05 2016 00:25 Rels wrote: Yep I said the same like 5 posts ago. That won't stop me from calling out illogical things I see. I'm waiting for NM to answer something that didn't make sense from his PoV unless I'm missing something. First comment a bit ironic coming from VA as someone also not posting much in comparison but I digress. IRL I'm quite busy most of today tbh but I will be on much later tonight to catch up again and drop some thoughts. Should be a bit more active tomorrow (Friday). It is what it is. To answer Rels, though the time of my first catchup I did not talk about DF because he had posted in some of the latter pages (~page 11-12+) and regarding the people bailing, I knew they bailed because I also double checked their filters in conjunction with their activity in the thread. (I had multiple tabs open - when I am in catchup mode, I try to track both ensuing conversation as well as what I'm reading.) Although others had commented on Zyrre, what stuck to me about Zyrre is that he explicitly said he was town and left. The others didn't. VA's first post when I first read it jumped out as a lame excuse to me for calling someone mafia that didn't make someone necessarily mafia. There's nothing wrong to me making town reads (or forming a "town circle" as others might put it) or trying to do so and then proceeding from there. Especially that early in the game there's not a whole lot to go off of where you can have a reliable scum read. That's why I felt that entry was forced. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
Too cocky/playful to be scum imo. From what I remember his scum game is kinda serious and he stresses out in the QT and shit. I don't see that strain on his posts here. Feel free to elaborate on what you think if you saw something different. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On February 05 2016 00:46 justanothertownie wrote: This is just lazy. The fact that you know someone is town does not automatically make that person sheepworthy. What is the goal of this line of thought anyways? If I could skip day 1 completely I would, I want a lazy way out of playing day 1 | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 05 2016 00:41 Damdred wrote: I think technically the named towny is considered a blue in this setup and its probably best to wait to claim so you aren't dead by eod but that's just me... Though it probably depends who it is Yeah that's true. I think it's better for the named VT to not claim, as if he does he can be killed whenever scum wants. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Anyway more pointless conversation you are once again nitpicking on useless things so I get to ignore you for d1. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 05 2016 00:48 NocturneMage wrote: VA's first post when I first read it jumped out as a lame excuse to me for calling someone mafia that didn't make someone necessarily mafia. There's nothing wrong to me making town reads (or forming a "town circle" as others might put it) or trying to do so and then proceeding from there. Especially that early in the game there's not a whole lot to go off of where you can have a reliable scum read. That's why I felt that entry was forced. You don't think that anymore ? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
I haven't decided if that has scum motivation from NM's point of view yet to skew it as such, could just be a misunderstanding. However separate from that his first post is really bad and its been overlooked. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Read the exchange I had with him about cherry picking. The first post jumped out at me for scummy reasons. When I read the Damdred/VA exchange in full he looked worse IMO. He claimed a reaction test but didn't make a conclusion in the exchange itself - it took my intervention before he said "btw he's town" (paraphrasing). The whole thing just struck me as odd from a town side of things especially when (ignoring meta) being defensive for most people is generally a scummy trait. And current page, I also can't understand the rationale he's discussing when there is a strongman shot that can be used anytime, but that's a separate point. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
And as far as being overlooked I don't think I'm the only one who felt in a similar vein - IIRC ritoky (who I am townreading atm) felt to say something of your scum meta that you don't call people town/mafia right away when you are mafia. He used a meta argument, mind you but isolating that exchange, it isn't unreasonable to question why you aren't drawing a conclusion straightaway from that reaction test. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 05 2016 01:08 NocturneMage wrote: Read the exchange I had with him about cherry picking. The first post jumped out at me for scummy reasons. When I read the Damdred/VA exchange in full he looked worse IMO. He claimed a reaction test but didn't make a conclusion in the exchange itself - it took my intervention before he said "btw he's town" (paraphrasing). The whole thing just struck me as odd from a town side of things especially when (ignoring meta) being defensive for most people is generally a scummy trait. And current page, I also can't understand the rationale he's discussing when there is a strongman shot that can be used anytime, but that's a separate point. The bold is super bad. You're probably scum. This: On February 04 2016 10:26 VayneAuthority wrote: I know I was kidding, I just wanted to see if you reacted defensively. But anyways I'm starting to spam too now. guess ill wait for stuff to happen Is crystal clear. He "was kidding" and "wanted to see if you reacted defensively", so yeah he townread Damdred way before your post. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
If yes, prove it 'cause others disagree. If no, why are you repeating "being defensive (ignoring meta) is a scum indicator" although you're talking about a specific situation that involves meta ? | ||
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justanothertownie
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
1. find small thread sentiment on easy lynch target 2. Push inane things 3. Conclude with half hearted results to keep options open Am I wrong here? Why on earth would I take as you put it, a generally scummy trait and paint damdred in a good light as a result from your POV if im mafia? What do I gain from making a proper meta assessment on him Also Ritoky was mostly likely joking so the fact you took the bait on that is also lolz | ||
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