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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 04 2016 14:05 GMT
#481
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 14:10 GMT
#482
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
February 04 2016 14:25 GMT
#483
On February 04 2016 22:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:30 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:18 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if Palmar was actually interested in our alignment he would just let us do our thing instead and proceed from there.

So him being pro-active makes him mafia? That makes 0 sense.
It was that game in which I figured out how to read Palmar as mafia btw.

Him being pro-active doesn't make him anything. Him saying stuff he can't possibly believe in is the problem.

Why wouldn't he believe in it? He just lead town previous game?

I don't see the connection here at all? What does having lead town recently (he played a really great game btw.) have to do with anything? Of course he believed in his posts in that game.

I am not talking about the previous game. You say that Palmar being pro active IN THIS game is scummy and that it would make more "sense" if he would let you do w.e the fuck you want. Knowing how last game worked out for him it should be the opposite. He should actually be more pushy than he is now.

No. That's not at all what I am saying. Sure he should be pushy but telling other people to do things he knows won't achieve anything is not pushy. It is lazy and bad.
If he had a real argument about the alignment of marv or me then he should absolutely push this if he is town. But that's not what we are talking about here.
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
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On February 04 2016 22:59 Palmar wrote:
if anything that's towny from jat rels

essentially, being cocky and sure of himself fits jat's personality, unlike me who is eternally humble he simply hasn't grasped that his eternal quest for validation is only making him pettier by the day.

See, the thing you don't seem to grasp is that your little shots like this will never actually make me mad. Why? Because it is coming from you and I know you are trying to troll me and that you don't actually think what you are saying is true most of the time. And I could never be mad at someone who posts hilarious stuff like the bolded in general.
What pisses me off is when people talk shit about my play and I can tell that they are serious about it.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 04 2016 14:26 GMT
#484
@boxerfred

Yea I disappeared because it was 3AM my time and I had to wake up at 7:30. I'll be back sometime in the next 2-5 hours
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
February 04 2016 14:27 GMT
#485
On February 04 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.

Please don't tell me it's "Palmar is pro-active".
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 04 2016 14:27 GMT
#486
yo darth can you answer this:
On February 04 2016 18:39 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote:

On February 04 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote:
I hate this game already.

hi

hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you.


Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan

"hearsay" ? What did you not like in his explanation ?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 04 2016 14:29 GMT
#487
On February 04 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.

So if we read Palmar's filter and know what to look for, we could find a tell that Palmar is town ?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 14:31 GMT
#488
On February 04 2016 23:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.

Please don't tell me it's "Palmar is pro-active".

Very funny.
On February 04 2016 23:29 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.

So if we read Palmar's filter and know what to look for, we could find a tell that Palmar is town ?

No. You can only see it when he is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
February 04 2016 14:32 GMT
#489
Btw. Palmar, feel free to answer this at any point in time:
On February 04 2016 22:47 justanothertownie wrote:
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On February 04 2016 22:44 Palmar wrote:
I actually have major trouble connecting with jat's "believe what I'm saying" thing. Aside from a short period last year where I decided I'd just townread marv every game to make things easier, it's exactly how I've treated him throughout recent years. And it's a bit bullshitty that jat appears just as I call out to make him play and makes the argument that he'll play when he pleases.

So you think telling people to "make marv give opinions" will achieve anything at all?
You think telling people to "make me play the game" will result in anything else than a major argument which serves no purpose?
Explain.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
February 04 2016 14:32 GMT
#490
On February 04 2016 23:29 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.

So if we read Palmar's filter and know what to look for, we could find a tell that Palmar is town ?

We should just threaten to lynch him until he coughs it up
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#491
On February 04 2016 23:32 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 23:29 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.

So if we read Palmar's filter and know what to look for, we could find a tell that Palmar is town ?

We should just threaten to lynch him until he coughs it up

Lynching me just brings me my salvation. One of the things Jeezus and I have incommon.
I had a good night of sleep.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#492
On February 04 2016 23:27 Rels wrote:
yo darth can you answer this:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 18:39 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote:

On February 04 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote:
I hate this game already.

hi

hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you.


Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan

"hearsay" ? What did you not like in his explanation ?



Rels, gimme like 2 hours and I promise i'll respond to the stuff you've asked
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#493
One of the many things.

We are basically the same.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
February 04 2016 14:37 GMT
#494
Koshi and Palmar. Both eternally humble guys.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
February 04 2016 14:54 GMT
#495
I'm awake and caught up I'll post more after coffee but jat pretty sexy today I must admit, bf oozing that town ness.

Rels, don't you think when Darth was under pressure for some of his posts that he responded pretty towny for a newb. And his refusal to let me white knight him at that point showed a decent mind set no?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
February 04 2016 15:03 GMT
#496
On February 04 2016 22:50 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 22:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:36 Palmar wrote:
technically the "fake afk noted" post should make marv town.

That's also something I have trouble seeing Palmar believe. Yes, he did read and "catch" marv on small things like this before but that post is definitely not something only townmarv would say.

No, why not?

There is a very easy explanation (and there's also a reason I say technically).

When I'm town and marv is mafia, he doesn't like dealing with me. He generally sort of avoids it and tries to take the high road of "i'm always shit early / day 1". There's also a tone thing (which is usually how I catch him, he just sounds off) which often involves him lacking the standard marv sass, if only just slightly.

So when he actually sort of engages with me and questions me, while also remaining sassy enough to fire back a joke like that (it's a reference to me saying the same thing to him earlier in the game), it feels both tonally right and situationally right.


now the problem of course is marv is good at mafia, but seeing as he quit a game recently just because he rolled one, it's super hard for me to believe he'd actually try this game as scum, instead of just trying to afk through a day or two in hopes of picking off players who might get him lynched,.

Do you genuinely believe that this is irrelevant or do you think my explanation is reasonable?

I missed this post earlier.
The red part is fair enough even though I still do not think scumarv can't post that and somewhat doubt you do.
The green part is very odd since you must have noticed how he said he would be on his best behaviour this game. It's not like he put in a lot of effort so far.
So in essence I genuinely believe this explanation is not reasonable.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2016 15:05 GMT
#497
it's not like he put in a lot of *visible effort

thank you please
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
February 04 2016 15:07 GMT
#498
On February 05 2016 00:05 marvellosity wrote:
it's not like he put in a lot of *visible effort

thank you please

Sorry, forgot your numerous stellar contributions to the scum qt
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 04 2016 15:10 GMT
#499
made me chuckle enough that i'll let it slide.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 04 2016 15:11 GMT
#500
On February 04 2016 23:54 Damdred wrote:
I'm awake and caught up I'll post more after coffee but jat pretty sexy today I must admit, bf oozing that town ness.

Rels, don't you think when Darth was under pressure for some of his posts that he responded pretty towny for a newb. And his refusal to let me white knight him at that point showed a decent mind set no?

Agree on both JAT and BF.

I've explained what I didn't like about Darth: him entering the thread, not doing anything, then re-entering the thread when he was called out. That seemed fake to me. Let me see what you're talking about with his posts when being pressured.
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On February 04 2016 11:29 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 04 2016 10:45 ritoky wrote:
what exactly has koshi done that makes you think he is town?


I never said Koshi was was town. I said that his play was NAI right now, because I've seen two different types of town Koshis so far.

On February 04 2016 11:53 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 11:42 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 11:29 darthfoley wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:45 ritoky wrote:
what exactly has koshi done that makes you think he is town?


I never said Koshi was was town. I said that his play was NAI right now, because I've seen two different types of town Koshis so far.


you said he has done things similar to last game where he was town, what are those things? regardless of if you hesitate to call him town, you still state that you've seen things that indicate he is town.


In the PYP game, he was very jokey and trolled in the beginning. He has come across like that so far.


On February 04 2016 12:55 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 04 2016 12:12 ritoky wrote:
re darth: something about his reads seem off. too much explanation considering lack of content, stronger opinion on some1 like koshi or va than some1 like disfo, random zyrre ping but no credit to disfo or damdred for noticing same thing


@Damdred I'm not going to use my experience as a crutch this game, so i'm fine defending my reads

@Ritoky I think it's perfectly normal to be more comfortable reading people you've played with before. I only brought up the Zyrre thing because I have been scum read for doing a similar "woohoo, i'm town!" post early. Tbf I was town that game.

You tell me that I have too much explanation for lack of content, while also giving disformation a hard time for stating reads without explanation. Hopefully i'll find your happy medium soon


Meh I'm not convinced this is town indicative. Maybe the refusal to white kniting is, that's a pretty weird for scum to say.
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