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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Vote Count - Day 1 MoosyDoosy (1): nooniansoong justanothertownie (1): Palmar Not Voting (15): Rels, justanothertownie, VayneAuthority, Damdred, darthfoley, disformation, Onegu, Zyrre, ritoky, Chezinu, MoosyDoosy, Koshi, boxerfred, marvellosity, NocturneMage At this time, MoosyDoosy is slated to be lynched. Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On February 04 2016 13:13 NocturneMage wrote: Here's a hint - contrast my null reads with some of the other reads on some of those same people. As in, I cannot see what is so town. Palmar was aggressive IIRC as scum in Outlaw and somewhere in this thread there was a townread on him for aggressive tone. To me that isn't alignment indicative. I don't fully agree with this statement cuz I don't think Palmar was that aggro early in Outlaw...I was the more aggro early mafia in Outlaw on our team, but I agree with the sentiment. There were anime question marks floating above my head when Palmar was cheaply given town reads....you know he is like....good at this game and shit....right? + Show Spoiler + but then again i can just spam lynch palmar in the thread and if i get shot you know he is mafia. that's what i learned from outlaw obsqt | ||
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Rels
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Rels
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This post is weird. Like, ritoky finds disfo's reasonning weird (maybe scum indicative too), but the first thing he states is "right conclusion", as if he wanted to subtily insist of the fact that he's town. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On February 04 2016 18:16 Rels wrote: This post is weird. Like, ritoky finds disfo's reasonning weird (maybe scum indicative too), but the first thing he states is "right conclusion", as if he wanted to subtily insist of the fact that he's town. bitch please, i ain't dat subtle. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 04 2016 09:22 ritoky wrote: no quick read on me, have you given up on it? Good question. On February 04 2016 09:28 Damdred wrote: I have my quick read on you written down. am trying to focus on scummy things like my hero palmar tells me to. So if I understand the first line correctly, you already know what your "ritoky quick read' is but you won't share it ? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 04 2016 10:04 darthfoley wrote: I am here, and ready to things I have a bad feeling about this post. Here are his first posts almost 2 hours before: On February 04 2016 08:13 darthfoley wrote: hello all, i am here On February 04 2016 08:16 darthfoley wrote: roger that Gold leader So here is what darth did: 1 - enter the thread "I am there" 2 - shit post ----- 2 hours pass ------- 3 - enter the thread "I am there" I don't like this repetition. There is no excuse in the first posts, like "I'll be there in 2 hours I'm working right now". It also happens 20 minutes after being called out by disfo for being there and not doing anything. This might be indicative of scum wanting to enter the thread early just to show he's there while not doing anything; but after being called out for doing exactly that, coming back to show he's playing the game seriously. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote: Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan "hearsay" ? What did you not like in his explanation ? | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
When I first read Disformation, I felt like he's town. Why: because he started rather active, tried to answer everyone's questions, explained himself in a decent manner. His tone feels like excited town ready to hunt scum, which is basically the impression I get of him as a person. Ritoky on the other hand starts to push disformation kinda hard. His reasoning to call disfo's post bullshit is weak though: On February 04 2016 12:16 ritoky wrote: 1) notifying that he is going out of his way to post from an inconvenient place -> notice me senpai 2) "almost forgot" -> something he must tell us! must be important 3) deferring to nocturnemage a) now confirmed not important b) if town is deferring to someone who's alignment he doesn't know for no reason 4) trying to discredit meta which CAN be a useful tool 5) smiley face cuz clearly "i'm joking gaiz" nothing about this post is good in any way. all of it is legit hot trash. re 1: this is no "notice me senpai", this is a simple information. He was active in the thread before so he explains why he backs off now. I can see disformation in his bed, still posting. And why shouldn't he tell us that he's in bed? Also, a bed never is inconvenient. It's convenient as hell! re 2: "nearly forgot" - that's pretty much why he's posting instead of just reading. Went to bed, read up, said "oh I forgot this", so he posts. He says "yo I forgot this" because he's kinda afraid to be scumread because he said he'd go to bed, not because he wants to put emphasis on what he's saying. re 3, a.: it's beginning of D1. What level of importance are you expecting? re 3, b.: I don't even understand this sentence, there seems to be a verb missing? re 4: how is disformation trying to discredit meta reads? Looks more like "tell me again what you think of meta reads, I don't think you like them?" which does not imply that disformation wants to discredit meta reads. re 5: what kind of argumentation is this even? I have the strong impression that ritoky pushes a towny. Which is not a bad thing by itself, it happens all over again. However, the way he does it feels very shady: constructing a whole lot of reasons over a four line post. And then, if you pull out a rather big reasoning, why do not go the road down until the end and call disfo out as scum? Finally, this: On February 04 2016 12:32 ritoky wrote: your post is bad. you said "remind me" which means you already know the answer so you're not waiting for anything, you're just handing someone who hasn't posted a free entry excuse into the thread for no reason, and this post is just as bad. i am gonna lynch this guy if i keep reading his posts regardless of how i feel about his alignment. i think i am just gonna not read his posts, and when i get a TR sheep their read on him. "I am gonna lynch you even if you're town"? "I am going to ignore your post because I just made up a bad reasoning on why they suck"? Plus, I have the impression that ritoky interacts with a lot of people, however he doesn't settle on someone yet. I think that's enough for me to place my vote. ##vote ritoky | ||
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ritoky
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 04 2016 12:16 ritoky wrote: 1) notifying that he is going out of his way to post from an inconvenient place -> notice me senpai 2) "almost forgot" -> something he must tell us! must be important 3) deferring to nocturnemage a) now confirmed not important b) if town is deferring to someone who's alignment he doesn't know for no reason 4) trying to discredit meta which CAN be a useful tool 5) smiley face cuz clearly "i'm joking gaiz" nothing about this post is good in any way. all of it is legit hot trash. Mm this is good. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On February 04 2016 18:41 ritoky wrote: does knowing this is his 3rd game ever change your opinion of any of this rels? Talking about darth right ? No. Why should it ? | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On February 04 2016 18:33 Rels wrote: I have a bad feeling about this post. Here are his first posts almost 2 hours before: So here is what darth did: 1 - enter the thread "I am there" 2 - shit post ----- 2 hours pass ------- 3 - enter the thread "I am there" I don't like this repetition. There is no excuse in the first posts, like "I'll be there in 2 hours I'm working right now". It also happens 20 minutes after being called out by disfo for being there and not doing anything. This might be indicative of scum wanting to enter the thread early just to show he's there while not doing anything; but after being called out for doing exactly that, coming back to show he's playing the game seriously. When he was scum with me, he went full "Hey guys, I'm new, this is how we play now, okay?". I feel like I have a decent chance of identifying his scum game. In the game I was scum with him he tried really hard to either fly under the radar or establish himself as town, he didn't push anyone too hard, so yeah. I'd put him on my "potential lurker watch" list while not scumreading him yet. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
No it isn't, read my post above  | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
i don't even understand your post. why does anything you said make me mafia? especially considering you have 0 context for any of it. "ritoky interacts with a ton of people"? what does this even mean for a reason? i ask questions and push for reads and thus am mafia? likewat? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On February 04 2016 18:13 ritoky wrote: I don't fully agree with this statement cuz I don't think Palmar was that aggro early in Outlaw...I was the more aggro early mafia in Outlaw on our team, but I agree with the sentiment. There were anime question marks floating above my head when Palmar was cheaply given town reads....you know he is like....good at this game and shit....right? + Show Spoiler + but then again i can just spam lynch palmar in the thread and if i get shot you know he is mafia. that's what i learned from outlaw obsqt To be fair, if you did this and I am mafia, I would shoot you, every time. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On February 04 2016 09:41 disformation wrote: Ah, that thread. Didn't really pay attention to that. Uhhh. Well let us try. Warning most of those will suck hard. weak flower town reads: Damdred: already explained ritoky: already explained jat: not giving a single flower when getting voted on palmar: scary palmar is scary and will see me hanged weak flower scum reads, pretty much all for being here without trying to advance the game / posting to post: koshi: was here didn't do anything darthfoley: was here didn't do anything Zyrre: was here didn't do anything. Like him a bit more than the others, since I feel the same as he described in his first and only post so far. xD marv: was not here didn't do anything This post is ok. I am especially pleased that I managed to coerce a townread out of you. It makes me far more happy when people townread me out of fear or because I force them to, than when they do it because I look townie. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
Furthermore these are super wrong: And then, if you pull out a rather big reasoning, why do not go the road down until the end and call disfo out as scum? [...] Plus, I have the impression that ritoky interacts with a lot of people, however he doesn't settle on someone yet. If ritoky was calling someone "confirmed scum" or was settled on someone's lynch like 12 hours into D1, I would find it scummy. Being "undecided" is NOT a town point for ritoky, but it is NOT a scum point either. Nobody should have clear reads with a < 10 pages game. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On February 04 2016 18:43 Rels wrote: Talking about darth right ? No. Why should it ? yes it should inform your read to some degree at least in terms of tone considering this is his first non-student game. | ||
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