New Smurf Mini Mafia

On February 13 2016 05:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


this is gonna be good

On February 11 2016 08:55 Bhaal LoM wrote:

Ugh who is this guy? I honestly never heard of him I will be honest about that.

On February 13 2016 06:15 Wartrukk wrote:
I can't believe every time i get town I get swamped witg work stuff. Have you figured out valdi's identity, NNN, or is there a case on him that i skipped? Who is iwasrobik is that another replace?

On February 11 2016 09:32 keanuisgod wrote:






I'm not sure if posts like this show a poor lost townie out of his depth, or scum faking being "innocent and naive" to forgo posting actual content.

I'll just be straight with my suspicions here:

Bhaal came to the thread roleplaying in a fun and seemingly confident manner, but as soon as he stopped roleplaying he turned into a mess:



This post is ripe with excuses ("I sometimes can't read into properly when I'm tired") and all the smileys lke ">.<" and ">.>" which serve little purpose other than appear like an innocent playful townie. It also shows an unnatural fear to respond a normal question saita asked him (like saita asked everybody). The reaction is odd and scummy





The response he gave saita about why he pressured me doesn't seem to make much sense with what he actually posted. When I noticed his question, I got the feeling he wanted me to post some content and reads. His response seemed to confirm this, with the "Fair enough Mortal" (making it seem he was satisfied with my response).
But later in his response to saita he says he only asked my for my reads so he could piggybank them since he "can't read properly when he's tired"?
But what about "being the analytical God when it comes to find scum"? Was that a lie that only existed in "role-playing-mode"?

I said previously this scumread was flimsy BECAUSE of the roleplay. Maybe, for some reason, town Bhaal got all confident and funny and stuff and acted like that, but when he stopped roleplaying the situation overwhelmed him or something and this is how he normally plays.

But it still feels weird. He keeps apologizing (here) and just throwing casual "cheery" posts. Yet he has actually to post any actual content at all, even when asked by many people.

Might as well start somewhere, fuck it

#Vote: Bhaal LoM

P.S: I'm not really confident in this read, mainly because I have a gut feeling in my stomach that Bhaal is just clueless town and this is all a misunderstanding, and also I'm a little pussy and I don't want to commit to a 100% scum read this early into the day. But whatever, we have to start somewhere and this is the best lead I've got, after the 3 inactive dudes

On February 13 2016 08:06 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
wow interesting nk

On February 11 2016 01:06 Valdiano wrote:
doublechecked saita's filter to make sure I didn't miss anything from conversation but there's nothing alignment indicative from it that could have applied to that last post.

although I do get an impression of posting just to post, reading his filter.

there were opportunities I think in 1-2 posts where he could have taken a stance on nnn/war

going to say a scumlean for now.

On February 11 2016 01:07 Valdiano wrote:
ebwop - there were opportunities in 1-2 posts where he could have taken a stance on nnn/war and he didn't.

On February 11 2016 23:31 Valdiano wrote:
if I had to lynch any of the severely low content posters for uselessness right now, I'd say that 77Gold would "win" over unholyflare, if only for unholyflare making that one slight observation.

On February 13 2016 08:53 keanuisgod wrote:


You seem pretty sure about that. Do you have any info we don't?



Nice to see you got invested in the game that fast. Hopefully it continues

On February 13 2016 09:06 Wartrukk wrote:
So on first read I hate gargamel and want him to be died. He quite obviously cares less about this game than I do and that's just fucked

On February 10 2016 12:26 GargamelxD wrote:
cant really take any posts seriously so far, no analysis possible becouse it still seems like standard banter

On February 11 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
he could be SL maybe, either that or ls

either way i think goldrom is VA and i want to kill him with fire

##Vote 77Goldrom

On February 11 2016 21:45 GargamelxD wrote:
i dont see any issues with unholy as he just postponed his actual play which i also did, and his entrance wasnt as awkward as roms. he actually took interest into what was happening and gave a bit of his opinion on smurf hunting.

in rom you have a guy who apologizes for being late, claims his role, asks about the latest news and in the next post acts like he doesnt care.

On February 13 2016 09:12 keanuisgod wrote:


I won't call you anything until you've finished reading the thread and doing what you are going to do

As for the specific comment, it makes it seem like you know more than you should. At least considering this is your first "real" entrance into the game, so things being "obvious" and "I would have raged if X had died" feel totally out of place.

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?

On February 13 2016 09:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
robik why is keanu scum? I didn't notice anything scummy about him.

On February 10 2016 10:57 keanuisgod wrote:
Okay, the bubblegum is gone (srs), so let's get to it!



I can see trying to out smurfs as a "Palmar-like" plan. After all, meta analysis is a (useful) tool town uses pretty often, and to do that you need to know who you are talking to. For example, if you can figure out an inactive lurker is actually a vet, you'd likely change your stance on him, comparing to you not knowing who he is.
These kind of plans aren't usually "scummy" nor "townie" (though there are some exceptions); they just are, specially in games with special characteristics that allow these kind of plans to emerge (like themed games)

Though I guess it kind of fights against the fun of this kind of game (i.e nobody knowing each other at all throughout all game, allowing shenanigans to happen).

Anyways, this seems like usual D1 shitfest OMGUSing, which is pretty neutral shit (i.e not scummy nor townie).

On February 10 2016 12:01 keanuisgod wrote:
Considering NNN's recent attempts at smurf-hunting it does seem like it won't produce many useful results, thus allowing scum to smurfhunt on their own in their QT, but confusing the heck out of town (and most likely NNN if he acts on said "smurf reads")

This post is ripe with excuses ("I sometimes can't read into properly when I'm tired") and all the smileys lke ">.<" and ">.>" which serve little purpose other than appear like an innocent playful townie. It also shows an unnatural fear to respond a normal question saita asked him (like saita asked everybody). The reaction is odd and scummy

On February 10 2016 11:46 keanuisgod wrote:


I ... I just wanted to contribute to the current thread situation, posting what I believed made the most sense ;_;



But srs, dunno, do whatever you want. I believe the juicy D1 will start after this "fight" is settled and the other 5-6 people chime in, there's no hurry.

On February 13 2016 10:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


i dont need a wot

On February 11 2016 08:06 keanuisgod wrote:
Ok, I'm home now.
Don't really have much to add, but while we're waiting for some people to respond and start posting content might as well add comments about some people:

Initially I was somewhat torn over Valdi's initial posts, in the sense that he may have tried to put a "wall of soft reads" and then leave making it seem like he's contributing, but on second read his 1st post seems quite strong, so I'm leaning slightly town on him based on feels (though I really want to keep him as null in case my first hunch was right).

On February 13 2016 15:22 keanuisgod wrote:


Also, considering I'm in a competition with NNN for most try-hard townie this game, this breaks my heart ;_;

On February 14 2016 08:06 keanuisgod wrote:
Ok.

My "narrative" regarding robik is this:
I'm thinking that robik (and scumteam by association) think the medic is between Gargy/Warty (whoever is townie between thme or both), so he HAS to go after me and leave those two be to be safe. I mean, you can't prop up the medic as your D3 mislynch since once he claims your plans are fucked.
So he HAS to make a shitty case on me and push me as "obvious scum" for it to work, i.e it's less risky for scum.
Valdi can be scumbuddy under the bus or just townie robik is latching on for D2 misslynch

But well, obviously this is a narrative that only works assuming he's scum

On February 14 2016 03:47 keanuisgod wrote:
Anyways robik, I am not sure you believe your own case against me, it seems to me like you haven't even read my filter (though I'm biased since I now my alignment obs).

Your only points are:
- "Fluff" posts and "He's not trying to solve the game" attitude when it was like 2-4 hours into D1, conveniently ignoring anything else from late-D1 (where shit actually matters).
- The Bhaal case, which also had an illogical point (the last one). I can't really call you out on you thinking that about me because of the Bhaal case since you weren't there in the thread when it happened (though I guess you can still reread the thread carefully to figure things out). So I'll ignore that (other than the bad point you made). I advise you to reread that part of the thread carefully.
- Don't call too many people scum. I can see how you may think this might be "scummy" in isolation, but context is everything so I believe just reading the thread and my filter would dissipate any doubts regarding this point.

On February 14 2016 03:47 keanuisgod wrote:


You know NNN's smurf?

On February 14 2016 05:16 keanuisgod wrote:
These are robik's thoughts on Garga and Warty:



Weak town read on Garga



Weak town read on Warty



We are in MYLO yet he's "pretty sure" he found the whole scumteam, when he still has (admited by him) weak town reads on Garga and Warty.

Dunno about you, but if I have 2 dudes just with slight town reads (hell, it may even reflect my own reads on Garga and Warty so far), I am not going to wager MYLO on fixating my scum reads on the remaining 2 people and call it a day.

The most important thing I'd be doing is dispelling or confirming those "weak" town reads on Garga and Warty. However, this doesn't seem to be on robik's mind since he hasn't addressed Garga nor Warty to figure out their alignment once in this game so far.
This is the most sketchy thing for me, specially when his case against me is so bad I can't believe he's that convinced by it.
His posts so far scream "hidden agenda" to me, not a townie trying to figure the game out so town can salvage something out of these 2-consecutive MYLOs we are going to have.

On February 14 2016 08:10 Iwasrobik wrote:

No wait this obviously is super bad but this post is 90% from a townie. Shapelog attacked me with narrative like that in a game I didn't have time to play, keanu is shape right ? I read that somewhere.

On February 14 2016 08:38 keanuisgod wrote:
Am I missing something with Valdi?

NNN's scumread on him apparently is only based on him being NocturneMage
Garga's townread on him apparently is only based on him being HalfTheSky

What's there left for us that don't believe in smurfhunting (or don't understand the meta reads based on the above players)? Only robik's case so far.

Anything else?

On February 14 2016 14:26 Valdiano wrote:
sigh, real life is really getting in the way here. I'd say more but I'll reserve it for postgame.

to the people commenting on why my saita push didn't go anywhere, I'd have preferred to engage him more. The first response he had to me was satisfactory, it was the one where he said he wanted to find a motive behind the post, which is why he wanted to play a more or less reactive game.

also it was either keanu or robik, it's also hard to engage with the thread when you don't really have the time to play, only options are those people who are around when I am. bhall I was trying to pick his brain before I had to go again.

wartruckk's end of day comments - the wagon being trash makes no sense but at that time it's not like his vote would have done anything anyhow.

I'll return and catch up fully later sunday.

On February 15 2016 05:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I read over robik's case on keanu again and that case is actually not convincing me that robik is town.

On February 15 2016 06:09 GargamelxD wrote:
im ticking in keanu wartrukk.

Wartrukk cause of reasons and cause of the NK.

if keanu is superbia it also makes perfect sense hes so proficient scum.

Some of his posts havent come from a townie mindset, not just on this day but somewhere i pointed out another example.

On February 15 2016 06:14 keanuisgod wrote:
Wtf is going on really? Robik and NNN, there is nothing from Valdi that can actually indicate inactive townie so far (since he hasn't posted anything from D1 other than the "excuse" post)? Warty and Garga .... wtf please post actually meaningful reads on Valdi other than "At one point he made posts for me to read" and "He's HTS lol he's town".

On February 15 2016 06:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Also we need consolidation. If robik is scum, he can and will last minute switch onto another wagon.

On February 15 2016 06:48 keanuisgod wrote:
That was a question (I phrased wrongly):

"Robik and NNN, do you think there is anything at all from Valdi that could actually indicate inactive townie instead of scum?"

On February 15 2016 06:53 keanuisgod wrote:
Dude's been inactive since the middle of D1, and a lot of interesting shit has happened since.

On February 15 2016 07:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

You aggressively pushed Keanu not really valdi

On February 15 2016 07:20 Wartrukk wrote:
Hm, should I switch so scum can't last minute hammer or what? Probably

On February 15 2016 07:53 Wartrukk wrote:

Off the top of my head 'he posted a few times day 1 and I liked the posts at the time'


I'll have a gander at his filter if you want but if you think I'm scum I don't see the point since I would just use TMI and make a case calling him his true alignment

On February 13 2016 09:07 Wartrukk wrote:
I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?

On February 15 2016 23:04 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Robik you want to leave the fate of this game up to garg, warty?

On February 16 2016 02:42 keanuisgod wrote:
Why NL now and not last D2? Situation feels exactly the same.

Don't see much benefit in having scum pick and choose which townie to kill in 2 nights in a row, unless your plan is to REALLY count on a doc save at some point (to confirm townies).

Plus I think doc should claim tomorrow. Him claiming makes no difference on who he can save at a potential N3 night, but we'll have a confirmed townie on D3, or the suspects get reduced to 2 (if there is CC).

On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:
Vald is coming out of the gate strong andI think that's towny, especially if he replaced in on short notice. Saitama had a weird early game and I had him as leanscum last night but I haven't read too closely the 30 or so posts from last night.

On February 13 2016 09:07 Wartrukk wrote:
I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?

On February 14 2016 07:51 Wartrukk wrote:


I did notice he gave me my well deserved townread when nobody else did, but it's weird that you say he could be with valdi but that would imply you are the scummiest of the reest of the townies. This is incorrect, going for the low hanging fruit is often called out on TL from what I see.

Yeah, fuck, I'll read robik's filter brb

On February 14 2016 07:57 Wartrukk wrote:

Oh yeah I remember thinking this made sense at the time but this is actually such a bullshit reason. "Having strong opinions" and "taking a firm stance" but these things are backed up by nothing in garg's filter, it's like robik just grabbed a couple posts that sound good and called garg town.

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 15 2016 05:45 Wartrukk wrote:
Right now I'm thinking robik and garg is the most likely scumteam

On February 15 2016 07:20 Wartrukk wrote:
Hm, should I switch so scum can't last minute hammer or what? Probably

On February 15 2016 07:58 Wartrukk wrote:

Never did it

On February 16 2016 07:26 Wartrukk wrote:

What do you mean?

On February 13 2016 09:07 Wartrukk wrote:
I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?

On February 15 2016 07:58 Wartrukk wrote:

Never did it

On February 16 2016 07:34 Iwasrobik wrote:
So you posted "I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak".
Then you DIDNT READ his filter and waited 11 minutes doing NOTHING.
Then you posted "I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read."
?????????????????????

On February 16 2016 07:36 Wartrukk wrote:

So if it doesn't matter what I answered what are you trying to prove?

On February 16 2016 07:38 Wartrukk wrote:

Laziness, low attention span, lack of motivation....

I came up with three off the top of my head

On February 16 2016 07:40 Wartrukk wrote:



Which would make me a liar

Which is why you're calling me scum

k

On February 16 2016 07:42 Wartrukk wrote:

'changed my read' meaning 'had town feels because the posts were big but read a case and decided to sheep'

then yeah I guess I did

On February 16 2016 07:49 Wartrukk wrote:

meh, thread sentiment is going your way so you don't need to throw any more shit that won't stick. I hear you

On February 12 2016 00:24 GargamelxD wrote:
im sure who valdiano is but might be a pro impostor, kinda doubt it though.

the player is town

On February 13 2016 23:07 GargamelxD wrote:
the nk does implicate wartrukk, saitama wasnt really the shining beacon of townieness to warrant being NKd, so i suppose it was cause of his reads..

valdiano is hts and town imo.

On February 16 2016 08:07 keanuisgod wrote:
You still want that NL robik?

On February 16 2016 08:14 keanuisgod wrote:


But you have 48 hours to figure that out, that's the point of Day cycles.
How would 72 additional hours help you? Remember you are dealing with Warty and Gargy here, they won't post at all and it'l just be you and me arguing or whatever.

Nothing happens, then N3 comes, I or you die (most likely me) and then we are in the same exact spot, just with 1 less townie to make sense of things. If NNN died last night, then it means doc most likely protted me or you, so it's like throwing a dice to see whether doc will save someone on N3 or not.

On February 16 2016 08:20 Wartrukk wrote:
lol how the fuck is that a dumbtell that would make me town?

On February 17 2016 03:12 Wartrukk wrote:
Medic claiming is pretty dumb unless you want the NL, robik. If we mislynch today and medic claims there's 0% chance we win.

Got a speeding ticket last night. First one ever. I was going with the flow of traffic but hey who cares

On February 11 2016 11:25 keanuisgod wrote:
I always found that "tunneling" mechanic weird, in a philosophical sense.
How can you push the lynch for someone, specially on D1, with so little knowledge? How can you be sure he's scum? How can you make your posts reflect this?
Should you convince yourself that you are sure he's scum, just so your posts reflect that and you can get the lynch more smoothly? Or do you keep the doubt (that he might be town) in your heart, and in the thread pretend you are really sure? If you post your doubts and concerns then people will jump at you and said lynch may not go through (or they may FOS you). However, if you "lie", then the lynch might go through without a hitch. But ... aren't you lying to yourself there? If the dude actually flips town, wouldn't you have wanted someone to confirm your concerns so you wouldn't have lynch a townie? How can you live with the guilt in that case? Even in the case the dude flips scum, how can you take this risk, every single game, where at some point he might flip town and you'll have to face this guilt eventually?
What is it that you ought to do?

Mafia is hard yo

On February 12 2016 06:28 Bhaal LoM wrote:

Who is LS? I never heard of him honestly. Like I said I haven't played since 2013. Is he a good or bad player?

On February 12 2016 06:29 Bhaal LoM wrote:
BTW I don't even know what LS even means o.o

On February 15 2016 08:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


I don't know what you are trying to say here.

On February 17 2016 08:06 keanuisgod wrote:


Just got home from work so I guess let's do it.

But damn, there are just so few filters with so little posts to read, I don't think I could ever muster up the strength to do so.

On February 11 2016 23:31 Valdiano wrote:
overall on the part of lynching lurkers, going to hunt for scum first, or discuss things that look questionable before falling back on a lurker, generally how I roll.

if I had to lynch any of the severely low content posters for uselessness right now, I'd say that 77Gold would "win" over unholyflare, if only for unholyflare making that one slight observation.

garg is okay to me.

On February 12 2016 00:24 GargamelxD wrote:
im sure who valdiano is but might be a pro impostor, kinda doubt it though.

the player is town

On February 13 2016 23:07 GargamelxD wrote:
the nk does implicate wartrukk, saitama wasnt really the shining beacon of townieness to warrant being NKd, so i suppose it was cause of his reads..

valdiano is hts and town imo.

On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:


I dont know why he says this, its actually the day where I played the most.

On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
His big case on me after dumbtelling warty is sketch cause of the confidence. I could be no where near as confident as him in this situation to the point of skipping a no lynch.

On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
The read progressions of the two on each other around last night specifically EoN are vital . Quoted is a post I find pretty townie in the situation, as warty is not just content of being townread here based on that dumbtell, upon which we have robik almost sounding apologetic for this:

On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:


So he finally decides to TR warty for tinfoil (why would it be tinfoil?).

On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
And posts a big case on me when not really necessary from a convincing stand point. And it seems like one of these cases of the sort "fuck it I need to win today so heres my last ditch effort".

On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
So this leads me to say: Why was Robik so confident about Valdi being scum when his other scumread was imo the main force behind that lynch? And that is another reason to me to suspect Robik more.

On February 17 2016 07:54 Iwasrobik wrote:

yep I didn't understand that either

On February 17 2016 18:56 GargamelxD wrote:
So Robik the only reason you believed Warty was town was cause he tinfoild on you?
I typically get the opposite reaction from people suspecting me, so that gave me the impression of being just convenient at the time where you were able to switch your scumread to me (whom you correctly called town in the previous days when I actually played less).

On February 17 2016 18:53 GargamelxD wrote:
I was suspicious of Keanu at the time cause among his reads he suspected Valdi so much over wartrukk which in my eyes didnt seem to be justified and thats what I meant with the ranting part.

On February 17 2016 18:12 Iwasrobik wrote:

This is bullshit. Who is that "other scumread of mine that was the main force behind Valdi's lynch" you're talking about ?

On February 13 2016 07:00 Iwasrobik wrote:
Town:
Kush
Saimata

Probably town:
Wartruk

Maybe town:
Gargamel

Scum:
Keanu
Valdiano

Will explain in a little bit when I'm in front of my laptop

On February 17 2016 19:37 GargamelxD wrote:


Wtf are you talking about? Its super simple. At EoD 2 I was scumreading Keanu cause I thought he was covering Warty, he was voting Valdi and suspecting me additionally.

My point against you being that in this time your confidence into the valdi lynch never faltered even though your other scumread keanu was voting him, at least I believe you were scumreading him at the time.

On February 14 2016 08:10 Iwasrobik wrote:

No wait this obviously is super bad but this post is 90% from a townie. Shapelog attacked me with narrative like that in a game I didn't have time to play, keanu is shape right ? I read that somewhere.

On February 15 2016 06:27 keanuisgod wrote:
Okay, I may end up sheeping into the Valdi wagon but first I'll finish rereading.

@Gargy: To be honest until right now I get the feeling you are more likely to be town and Warty to be scum, any "chainsaw defense" is actually an attack on your reasoning, not any actual defense. Anyways don't really worry about me

On February 17 2016 20:21 GargamelxD wrote:
you just made me realize i was thinking that keanu was voting valdi back then:


+ Show Spoiler +



Cause you said you thought he town for tinfoil, which you by the way adressed as a joke not long ago so seems like an out of place question now (this makes it look like you're just spamming whatever you can in an attempt to make me look bad).

On February 17 2016 20:21 GargamelxD wrote:


Cause of my argument with him in which he went after me when I was wanting the warty lynch (this way actually preventing people from maybe wrongly going for warty ) and cause I wrongly believed he was voting for him earlier. For some reason I still give keanu most credit for that lynch, not you, cause he kept people on course while I didn't, and cause I don't remember you being particularly memorable or even around during our argument.

On February 17 2016 22:32 GargamelxD wrote:


If that didn't happen then what is the reason for you townreading Warty? The dumbtell was a joke, the tinfoil is wrong, so what are we left with for you to TR him all of a sudden?

On February 17 2016 22:32 GargamelxD wrote:


If that didn't happen then what is the reason for you townreading Warty? The dumbtell was a joke, the tinfoil is wrong, so what are we left with for you to TR him all of a sudden?

On February 17 2016 22:48 GargamelxD wrote:
There's still the fact remaining that now that we've dug up to the point that we know you aren't confident on either me or Warty, you are confident enough to put all eggs in a basket at mylo instead of no lynching, all cause you've written one case, but while having other arguments on warty you didn't seem to want to dig up.

You also don't seem interested into what me and keanu bring up on warty, just into lynching me.

Overall it's not helpful that you and warty show a similar behaviour in this, makes it harder to figure out the last one between you.

Anyone can write a case on someone in this game and sound somewhat right, but there's only one solution, and you believe you found it after your echange with warty that still leaves me wondering why you let him off the hook so quickly if not for convenience.

On February 17 2016 22:50 GargamelxD wrote:
And the tactical afking is a pretty bad argument too, as activity is strictly individual and we're in a smurf game, doesn't matter if you mention others doing it.

I also don't see any relations between Valdi and me or warty that aren't relations Valdi wanted to be in the game.

On February 17 2016 23:05 GargamelxD wrote:


If activity is so predictive of mafia, why was the D1 lynch town? Sod off with such arguments, they are the kind of arguments that you can disprove with 1 example. They come from people who think can prove all apples are red by trying to find red apples....

On February 17 2016 23:11 Iwasrobik wrote:
And I'm tired of talking to you. Do one of these things please:
- reread my filter and Wartruk filter and decide who you want to push and why
- shut up
- concede
Thanks.

On February 13 2016 13:03 keanuisgod wrote:
Dunno if id make associations like this right now.
Though to be honest i really thought robik would vote me lol. Maybe its misddirection whatever

On February 13 2016 13:24 keanuisgod wrote:


Wat changed yor mind?

On February 13 2016 15:22 keanuisgod wrote:


Also, considering I'm in a competition with NNN for most try-hard townie this game, this breaks my heart ;_;

On February 18 2016 07:45 Wartrukk wrote:
Who do you think I am again?

On February 18 2016 07:46 keanuisgod wrote:
I havent even tried smurfhunting this game. After game is over youll see why

On February 19 2016 08:07 Wartrukk wrote:
Nice

On February 19 2016 08:20 Wartrukk wrote:
I got a pm saying I'm town. I totally fucked the dog all game and don't really feel bad about it but the only scum-aligned thing I've done is push for garg's lynch. Robels played for the endgame and honestly deserves this win.

Seems like a slow-roll though why not just put KP on me? There's like 0% you were saving me right?

On February 19 2016 08:40 keanuisgod wrote:
It certainly leaves you in a better spot than robik.

Wouldn't town robik be suspicious enough of Warty to put a vote on him right away? Isn't robik the one not "afraid" to vote and accuse people?
Something smells fishy, gonna reread his filter first

On February 19 2016 08:20 Wartrukk wrote:
I got a pm saying I'm town. I totally fucked the dog all game and don't really feel bad about it but the only scum-aligned thing I've done is push for garg's lynch. Robels played for the endgame and honestly deserves this win.

Seems like a slow-roll though why not just put KP on me? There's like 0% you were saving me right?

On February 13 2016 12:31 Wartrukk wrote:

Maybe this is a little nitpicky but the way you word this is makes me think you believe vald is scum and that the second scum could be either robik or garg with garg as a more likely scenario. If this is what you mean, why would robik be on the table at all? He's busing this hard for the cred in mylo just to set up a mislynch later on keanu?

On February 13 2016 09:07 Wartrukk wrote:
I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?

On February 16 2016 07:27 Iwasrobik wrote:

You posted:

Then:

Did you read Vlad's filter between these two posts ?

On February 16 2016 07:29 Wartrukk wrote:
Nope

On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:
Vald is coming out of the gate strong andI think that's towny, especially if he replaced in on short notice.

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?

On February 14 2016 07:57 Wartrukk wrote:

Oh yeah I remember thinking this made sense at the time but this is actually such a bullshit reason. "Having strong opinions" and "taking a firm stance" but these things are backed up by nothing in garg's filter, it's like robik just grabbed a couple posts that sound good and called garg town.

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 16 2016 07:46 Wartrukk wrote:
Still kinda think you're scum so that makes sense[Talking about me here]

On February 16 2016 07:56 keanuisgod wrote:
What about Gargy Warty? Post your exact thoughts right now about him, considering that apparently you are shifting into "robik scum" right now

On February 16 2016 07:58 Wartrukk wrote:
I'm probably just omgusing because of how hard robik is pushing but garga has been afk all night phase and since I'm the one you nerds are mad at and he was pushing me all day yesterday he's probably who I will end up voting if robik gets off my sack

inb4 I'm just agreeing with whoever is talking at the time

On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:
I'm over the smurf thing now. Bhaal lom is still in my leanscum pile, NNN is null because i admit he posted some stuff (like early game to saitama) that I was thinking. Vald is coming out of the gate strong andI think that's towny, especially if he replaced in on short notice. Saitama had a weird early game and I had him as leanscum last night but I haven't read too closely the 30 or so posts from last night.

On February 13 2016 08:13 Wartrukk wrote:
Wifoming the night kill to implicate (but not really implicate) the towny who said he has little time to play.

In MYLO.

HHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

On February 13 2016 09:06 Wartrukk wrote:
So on first read I hate gargamel and want him to be died. He quite obviously cares less about this game than I do and that's just fucked

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?

On February 14 2016 07:57 Wartrukk wrote:

Oh yeah I remember thinking this made sense at the time but this is actually such a bullshit reason. "Having strong opinions" and "taking a firm stance" but these things are backed up by nothing in garg's filter, it's like robik just grabbed a couple posts that sound good and called garg town.

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 16 2016 07:58 Wartrukk wrote:
I'm probably just omgusing because of how hard robik is pushing but garga has been afk all night phase and since I'm the one you nerds are mad at and he was pushing me all day yesterday he's probably who I will end up voting if robik gets off my sack

inb4 I'm just agreeing with whoever is talking at the time

On February 16 2016 08:28 Wartrukk wrote:
Fuck it I'ma wifom the nk

nnn was the only one calling me town until a short time before deadline. The only one who wasn't here before deadline is garga.

That's all I really got but it makes sense to me

On February 16 2016 08:35 Wartrukk wrote:
So I'm gonna place a vote on garga because I'm 90% sure he's the game winning lynch but if you two want a nl you just have to not vote with me.

I'll be back throughout the dayphase.

On February 17 2016 10:52 Wartrukk wrote:
I guess I'll read that big ass case

On February 17 2016 11:03 Wartrukk wrote:

I would add the mindless shit flinging toward me where he doesn't even know what he's calling me scum for before he posts


which was posted after he posts this:


Which means he read my filter but never looked at any posts in context. He obviously didn't read the end of day in order either.

He was looking for reasons to scumread me before he read the thread.

On February 18 2016 03:33 Wartrukk wrote:
I feel like there's not much for me to say here as garg digs himself a nice cozy hole but hi rels

On February 13 2016 04:28 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
And frankly I am tracking with this line of thought kush, but I think wartrukk is scum. And that's a read.

I value my reads.

On February 16 2016 02:37 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
It's not that they're dumb. They're just low effort.

I'm getting more and more sure of Warty being scum. I realized the reasons why I was townreading him weren't good.
I'll be content to lynch him tomorrow.

On February 18 2016 02:25 GargamelxD wrote:
So yeah at least I was right on warty yesterday, keanus argument is pretty but dead wrong. Warty went for the endgame cred instead of a risky play.

And with this, since I figure you will never ever believe I am town, lynch me, good luck with the save (its a 50 50) and then lynch warty.

On February 18 2016 03:04 GargamelxD wrote:
im on phone, so ill be brief. i townread robik for some of his questioning of warty earlier on, and a few other posts that just seemed like he was genuinely pointung out stuff that did t make sense. call it feqr mongering but its just facts, qfter my lynch u kill warty if town survives the night

On February 19 2016 22:04 keanuisgod wrote:


If you had shotted Warty, and I had saved him (remember I RNGed, could possible have happened), then you would have lost 100%. By shooting me, you would either win 66% of the time (when I prot someone else), or this exact scenario happens, where you FOS Warty and convince me to lynch him.
Would the safest option, for a scum robik, actually be shooting me? Either day continues as normal, trying to lynch the "easy ML" Warty, or straight up win if I fuck up?

On February 19 2016 22:04 keanuisgod wrote:
Also, Warty even says it here:


Why wouldn't scum Warty shoot you robik? He's making no effort to win the game right now. If he's scum, and he knows "I'd likely prot myself", what's the motivation for shooting me, and after it fails do nothing whatsoever to try and save himself? Wouldn't it make more sense to shoot you, and have the chance of the shot going through (again "likely" in your mind)?

Why didn't Warty shoot you robik? Tell me, tell me robik, why didn't he shoot you?
Tell me

On February 19 2016 22:04 keanuisgod wrote:


Why this fearmongering though?

On February 19 2016 22:07 keanuisgod wrote:
So, I'm having trouble differentiating a "try-hard" scum robik and an apathetic town Warty, from the "apparently obvious" choice of robik town and Warty scum.

Weren't people suspicious on me solely because they thought I was Shapelog and he had "played an amazing scum game" recently?
What if robik is a Shapelog-fellow with an amazing scum game instead?

I can't pinpoint scummy things about robik, but what if he's an amazing scum riding this to victory with all his might?

On February 19 2016 22:08 keanuisgod wrote:


I reread stuff like this and it makes sense to me, which makes this so much harder ;_;

Warty was the sole deciding factor in Valdi's lynch

On February 19 2016 22:20 Iwasrobik wrote:

You cannot think at the same time"ROBIK IS BEING AMAZING TRYHARD SCUM" and "ROBIK WAS THE MAIN FORCE BEHIND VLAD'S LYNCH". It doesn't compute!

On February 19 2016 19:14 Iwasrobik wrote:
So.

The post that explains why I am town and you should not vote me

"you" being Kaenu

1. I pushed Vlad hardcore and was the main reason he got lynched
The end.

I'm only half kidding 'cause that is a strong point. If I was scum, with all the targets I had at my disposal when I replaced (namely Garga and Wartruk), I somehow decided to hard push my partner and constatly ask people about why they were townreading him. I have very, very serious doubts he was going to be lynched without me pushing for it. Kush did a case on him and was the only one scumreading Vlad before me; town!Garga thought he was town and didn't bother consolidating, you were townreading him for "feel", his partner Wartruk had waffly opinion about him.

There is NO good reason as to why I bused my partner right off the bat, and aggressivly pushed him to his death. He wasn't under any strong pressure, and with my activity in a kinda inactive game I could have lynched anyone else, first of them Wartruk. This is even stronger if I remind that it was MYLO, so a mislynch meant the victory at 99% since kush was very, very likely the prot N1.

Gonna put that reason in its own post actually since it should be enough. Bunch of other reasons to follow.

On February 19 2016 20:12 Iwasrobik wrote:
4. His attitude in general and in particular in MYLO D3

His attitude this game has been "I don't care" since almost the beginning. It's hard to differentiate town not caring from scum not caring, which BTW makes this attitude a perfect one for scum. This points him as scum if compared to my attitude of wanting to solve the game, but not very much I have to admit.

But his attitude during MYLO was super scum indicative. He was fixed on Garga being scum since the beginning, and ... did nothing. No tinfoil, no reread, no nothing. This is scum indicative since, as state before, town WILL doubt their reads at MYLO / LYLO. ESPECIALLY after being wrong, as Wartruk was with his Kaenu / Garga scumread. But nope, immediately after I stopped attacking him on the "didn't read Vlad's filter" stuff, he said "Garga is scum" and never moved from it.
Here are posts from him since the beginning of D3 (first one is 2 minutes before D3):






This is scum wanting to mislynch at MYLO and doing their best to not derail it with unecessary tinfoil on Kaenu or me.

On February 19 2016 20:18 Iwasrobik wrote:
Why Wartruk is scum part 2: most dead players scumread him

Saitaman was scumreading him. Last post about him:

kush was more waffly but was scumreading him before dying. Last post about him:

Garga, being pushed hardcore by me, was scumreading hjim before dying. Last posts about him:

On February 19 2016 22:29 Iwasrobik wrote:
In Dark Tournament scum!disformation was the deciding vote on scum!FF lynch D3. He was scum anyway.
This was an even bigger deal actually 'cause here, if there was no Wartruk vote, we would have gone from MYLO to LYLO. In DT, disfo's vote changed the lynch from townie to scum. But he was scum anyway.

On February 21 2016 06:25 Wartrukk wrote:
I was just hoping you really thought you saved yourself tbh gg

On February 21 2016 07:49 Wartrukk wrote:
On the plus side my girl made me banana bread and it is delicious

On February 21 2016 07:57 keanuisgod wrote:
Also you are still all wrong about me lol

Feel free to freak out when game ends