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Iwasrobik
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Iwasrobik
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Wartruk & Garga, if you're doc you need to claim right now. | ||
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Iwasrobik
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On February 17 2016 03:12 Wartrukk wrote: Medic claiming is pretty dumb unless you want the NL, robik. If we mislynch today and medic claims there's 0% chance we win. Got a speeding ticket last night. First one ever. I was going with the flow of traffic but hey who cares You're wrong. Medic can protect himself so it's the same if he claims or not; AND we can either take someone out of the lynch pool (if there is no counterclaim) and reduce the lynch pool to 2 people (if there is a counterclaim). You are the most likely lynch so please claim your role in your next post. | ||
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Iwasrobik
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Iwasrobik
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On February 11 2016 11:25 keanuisgod wrote: I always found that "tunneling" mechanic weird, in a philosophical sense. How can you push the lynch for someone, specially on D1, with so little knowledge? How can you be sure he's scum? How can you make your posts reflect this? Should you convince yourself that you are sure he's scum, just so your posts reflect that and you can get the lynch more smoothly? Or do you keep the doubt (that he might be town) in your heart, and in the thread pretend you are really sure? If you post your doubts and concerns then people will jump at you and said lynch may not go through (or they may FOS you). However, if you "lie", then the lynch might go through without a hitch. But ... aren't you lying to yourself there? If the dude actually flips town, wouldn't you have wanted someone to confirm your concerns so you wouldn't have lynch a townie? How can you live with the guilt in that case? Even in the case the dude flips scum, how can you take this risk, every single game, where at some point he might flip town and you'll have to face this guilt eventually? What is it that you ought to do? Mafia is hard yo LOL I never properly read this and it is AWESOME ^^ | ||
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Iwasrobik
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On February 12 2016 06:28 Bhaal LoM wrote: Who is LS? I never heard of him honestly. Like I said I haven't played since 2013. Is he a good or bad player? On February 12 2016 06:29 Bhaal LoM wrote: BTW I don't even know what LS even means o.o HAHAHAHAHA HOW COULD I MISS THAT ITS EVEN BETTER THAN THE FIRST ONE | ||
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Iwasrobik
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Iwasrobik
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On February 15 2016 08:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: I don't know what you are trying to say here. yep I didn't understand that either | ||
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Iwasrobik
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Iwasrobik
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Iwasrobik
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On February 17 2016 08:06 keanuisgod wrote: Just got home from work so I guess let's do it. But damn, there are just so few filters with so little posts to read, I don't think I could ever muster up the strength to do so. Just sit back and relax, I have everything you need coming in like 10 minutes. | ||
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Iwasrobik
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The main reason: Vlad's interactions Here is the ONLY mention of Garga in Vald's filter: On February 11 2016 23:31 Valdiano wrote: overall on the part of lynching lurkers, going to hunt for scum first, or discuss things that look questionable before falling back on a lurker, generally how I roll. if I had to lynch any of the severely low content posters for uselessness right now, I'd say that 77Gold would "win" over unholyflare, if only for unholyflare making that one slight observation. garg is okay to me. Once, he's mentioned because it's a post about lurkers; and it's a slight townlean without explanations, which is partner indicative. In comparaison, here is how Vlad' interactions with Kaenu makes Kaenu likely town: + Show Spoiler + Questions / interactions with him On February 11 2016 01:14 Valdiano wrote: so there's a few things I don't like about this reading your filter or that I don't understand. You are discussing the effects of nnn's scumhunting in this first quote but you are dismissing it as banter. what makes you think this presumably isn't alignment indicative? And Wartruk: + Show Spoiler + Questions / interactions with him On February 11 2016 23:24 Valdiano wrote: another point that I feel needs some clarification - this sounds like mindmeld to me, which people from their perspective, view as towny, so why is he still null? just wondering. also if you can further discuss saita, that might be great. he's the one active player I'm having difficulty understanding. Scumread with reasonning on him On February 11 2016 00:54 Valdiano wrote: wartrokk - didn't like his opening post because the usa vs europe thing is obviously not scummy. his filer padding post, without knowing who he is, I think I know what he actually meant by that, but obv not going to put words in his mouth. (if it's what I think he meant, it's nai) The gist of his post is that he's skeptical and whoever the player is, it is possible this person just doesn't metaread people, he's in the clear as long as he's not scumreading someone for something that isn't alignment indicative. if wartrokk can explain why the way nnn is smurf hunting is scummy then I would feel a little better about his alignment. his final post didn't reach an absolute conclusion on nnn despite their ongoing conversation. regardless of who he was, he should have been able to do so. right now, it's a scumlean without a concrete conclusion And Saitama: + Show Spoiler + Questions / interactions with him On February 11 2016 01:02 Valdiano wrote: this post is difficult to understand. if I understand it correctly this is a bad post. if this is the definition you believe then why are you sure that this couldn't come from scum? omgus can come from either alignment. second if you are suggesting the play is more often town then why are you suggesting that they have not progressed from null? what is the conditional element that could make them scum (implied by your first sentence in the final quote, correct)? Plus a scumread on him which you probably all remember, I'm tired of writing these spoilers. Even unholyflare got a small reason for his read: + Show Spoiler + On February 11 2016 23:31 Valdiano wrote: if I had to lynch any of the severely low content posters for uselessness right now, I'd say that 77Gold would "win" over unholyflare, if only for unholyflare making that one slight observation. Vlad's interactions with others makes Wartruk and Kaenu very unlikely partners, and Garga a likely partner. The secondary reasons 1. The activity and lack of excuse for AFK Garga's activity is indicative of scum; no posts during long stretches of time where scum has no interest posting. He has 1 post N1 and 2 posts N2, and nights are periods where scum doesn't feel the need to post. Furthermore, these AFK periods are not explained. This is scum indicative, as townie are waaaaay more likely to explain WHY they weren't there for some time than scum, like Wartruk did for example. Again, that seems dumb but it is true. It was true for Vlad, it is true for Garga. Lastly, he seems to have given up right now, which is a scum indicator, especially right after a scum lynch. 2. No interest in the lynch Garga and Vlad were the two players not posting the hour before deadline on both D1 and D2. Gold did it too but he clearly gave up the game, and probably would have been replaced if not lynched. If Wartruk was not around the D2 deadline, we would not even have been able to lynch Vlad. 3. His read on Vlad On February 12 2016 00:24 GargamelxD wrote: im sure who valdiano is but might be a pro impostor, kinda doubt it though. the player is town  On February 13 2016 23:07 GargamelxD wrote: the nk does implicate wartrukk, saitama wasnt really the shining beacon of townieness to warrant being NKd, so i suppose it was cause of his reads.. valdiano is hts and town imo. That's it. No comment on any of the two cases made on him. So who is the last scum ? Garga | ||
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Iwasrobik
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Iwasrobik
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On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote: I dont know why he says this, its actually the day where I played the most. The post you quoted said "AFK N1 & N2 + uninterested in the lynch", not "AFK D2". On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote: His big case on me after dumbtelling warty is sketch cause of the confidence. I could be no where near as confident as him in this situation to the point of skipping a no lynch. The dumbtell was a joke and it does NOT have any alignment indicative impact on my read on Wartruk. On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote: The read progressions of the two on each other around last night specifically EoN are vital . Quoted is a post I find pretty townie in the situation, as warty is not just content of being townread here based on that dumbtell, upon which we have robik almost sounding apologetic for this: In the post you quoted, I actually explain it it not AI. On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote: So he finally decides to TR warty for tinfoil (why would it be tinfoil?). The post you quoted was adressed to Kaenu. It is actually super clear if you read the thread, so it seems Wartuk is right and you only superfically read filter without the context to find things to attack. Furthermore, to post that you HAVE to think Wartruk tinfoils me, which he didn't. Even after I attacked him hard, he was like "yeah I'll vote Garga if robik stop stupidly attacking me". Why do you think Wartruk tinfoil me ? On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote: And posts a big case on me when not really necessary from a convincing stand point. And it seems like one of these cases of the sort "fuck it I need to win today so heres my last ditch effort". Dude I was the main pusher of "we should NOT lynched anyone today". But now that we have a confirmed town it's bullshit, 'cause scum are only going to attack confirmed townie, so he will either die or he won't, either way we don't have more infos by no lynching. On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote: So this leads me to say: Why was Robik so confident about Valdi being scum when his other scumread was imo the main force behind that lynch? And that is another reason to me to suspect Robik more. This is bullshit. Who is that "other scumread of mine that was the main force behind Valdi's lynch" you're talking about ? | ||
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Iwasrobik
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I would also like you to explain that post. | ||
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Iwasrobik
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Kaenu => Trfel. Wartruk => TT. kush => kush Vlad => NM ? Kush seemed sure and I see the similarities between the cold & logical tone as scum, but if Vlad is NM he either got super lazy or didn't have time to play, 'cause he proved he could be town leader as scum. No idea on Garga, Gold, unholyflare, saitama. | ||
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Iwasrobik
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On February 17 2016 18:56 GargamelxD wrote: So Robik the only reason you believed Warty was town was cause he tinfoild on you? I typically get the opposite reaction from people suspecting me, so that gave me the impression of being just convenient at the time where you were able to switch your scumread to me (whom you correctly called town in the previous days when I actually played less). Did you not read my post ? Where did he tinfoil me ? The "you're town 'cause you tinfoil me" was adressed to Kaenu. | ||
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