On January 31 2016 13:36 nooniansoong wrote: trfel u leaving mafia?
Oh yeah, I left that line in there. Whoops.
I mean, everyone hates playing with me every game I play. I keep thinking I can fix it, but I still haven't found the solution. At some point I need to just stop playing, if no one likes playing with me and it makes everyone miserable, I shouldn't do it.
Some parts of this game were fun. Other parts were miserable. It took a lot of time. I need to move on.
On January 31 2016 15:26 Tumblewood wrote: Okay. Here are all reasonable motivations I can come up with for making that post: 1. Noon is town, thinks that Trfel is still scum, and wants more support to get him lynched. 2. Noon is scum and wants to draw support for a mislynch. 3. Noon wants to ally darth. (unlikely) 4. Noon didn't make that in a serious light. (likely) Results prove inconclusive, but that post is still really weird to me.
Tumbledore stop making "what if" lists that end with Null or inconclusive results.
On January 31 2016 14:50 _MexicanAlien wrote: I find it suspicious how eden and trfel somehow decide for obscure reasons that lynching each other is not going to work or they just town read. They seem to be supporting each other in spam.
I think Mafia is: Tfrel Eden1892
Mafia lean: Ikidomari Jesusincarnate
Town lean: darthfoley PepperMintTea
Town: Shape log
Null: nooniansoong
I'm personally offended that you have Shapelog as more of a town read than me given that i'm the vigilante aka blue role lol
So we can either assume that Shapelog is a bad noob scum player, who also doesn't have anybody on his team to tell him that his early posting isn't doing anything to help, and who also doesn't have a scum coach telling him the same thing... or we can just assume that he is an eager townie, as his posts read.
This doesn't mean Eden thinks shape might be town. He is using a rhetorical device, juxtaposition, to present you with two possibilities: one likely, and the other unlikely.
The rest of it.. i mean I think there is some OMGUS from Eden towards Onegu. (OMGUS is when you scumread someone for scumreading you). But often OMGUS does come from town. You are convinced of your own towniness, of course, so it seems fake when someone else is scumreading you.
Yeah I noticed that. Quite honestly i have wrote so much (for college yesterday) that i have forgotten most of what i say in that post. I remember the bigger stuff. But that is about it. I check into it tonight or tomorrow.
On February 01 2016 05:54 Eden1892 wrote: Because why on Earth would I ever go to all the trouble of making my teammate look horrendous and then weakly walk it back like I did?
I am legitimately stunned that this isn't obvious to everyone. That's horrible mafia play. If Iki was going to incriminate himself like that, then the correct thing to do is to ignore it for a bit and hope no one else really calls it out. Maybe they don't and you coast (especially in a newbie game), neither one of you are in the spotlight and it's perfect. If someone else calls it out, then you bus Iki and move along.
But look at how the game has played out, literally the only reason any of you chuckleheads are talking about Iki at all is because I put Iki's big post during day 1 on blast. How does that make any sense for a partner to do?
Cool story bro. Listing why a scum play you could of done is bad. Literally that is how it makes since sense you obv. know about how bad it looks. Then you pull this card and then the sus. goes away.
Then again, I might be just delusional or a different thinking player.
On February 01 2016 06:15 Eden1892 wrote: The Iki flip makes me town because if I were Iki's partner we could have easily lynched Trfel together instead of shipping Iki out.
Aw fuck, I went out saturday night / sunday, wake up to be lynched
sorry for being such a shitty player / having little impact on the game. If I play with TL again I'll properly research things and try to actually play well.
Alright, i literary have came up with nothing either new or productive. I am to busy day dreaming about star wars and GF. I might do a Vote reasoning thingy again, as it helped me last time.
On February 01 2016 08:53 nooniansoong wrote: did you like star wars
Overall it was good but it did had some questionable points/things in it. You see i had to watch it for TL mafia bullishness because i am cohosting sky's Star wars flavored mafia game.
actually What the hell am i even talking about with Vote reasoning Thingy. This is the time to look at who he interacted with and find scum off of that. Men, grab your fires, cannons on the right flank, Torches on the left.
On February 01 2016 08:38 Ikidomari wrote: Aw fuck, I went out saturday night / sunday, wake up to be lynched
sorry for being such a shitty player / having little impact on the game. If I play with TL again I'll properly research things and try to actually play well.
GL to my teammates.
No worries bud. I had a similar experience when I played scum my first game on TL. Hope you play more often! Town is so much easier, believe me.
On January 28 2016 14:23 Ikidomari wrote: Hi all, Sorry for being so inactive at the start, I've been real busy with life, and I've had a hell of a rough time catching up on the game, got a major headache trying to figure everything out. I'll try to be far more active from here on out, feel free to question me all you want, and I'll answer as quickly as possible.
Sorry for any weird formatting issues, the lack of direct quotes, and general rambly-ness of my post, I'm writing from a phone and having a hell of a time getting it all done.
PepperMintTea Never played forum, but has played in real-life / online, so at least somewhat experienced. Points out a lot of flaws in people's arguments, times that they've said things that are weak / make little sense. Constantly asking for more information, where people got certain ideas, and asks hard-hitting questions. PMT is one of my top town reads, either that or very good mafia, and I'm being taken for a ride, but based on their lack of forum experience, I'd say PMT is just good town.
Tumbleweed looks like this is his first game, or one of his first, went very pro-active early, maybe a bit over-aggressive on the scum calls, but started making more town reads later on. I don't know, comes off as bad town trying too hard, or bad mafia to me, i'm not experienced enough to tell the difference. If I had to give a solid answer, I'd say he's bad town who changed his mind a bit too often in an attempt to get reactions out of people, falling over himself trying to avoid being mis-lynched.
JesusIncarnate Very few posts (I know, he still has more than I do) Posts he has made haven't been very constructive at all. He's coming off as extremely arrogant, enough so that it's got to be some sort of act, because there's no way someone's going to say "I am a Mafia Grandmaster", "speak to me with respect, I deserve it, i am above you" unless they're putting it on, and I mean, look at that name. Only constructive information he's given to town is calling out Eden for supposedly falling for a simple strat. My read is that jesus is an unhelpful town, who has annoying posts to read- 'sick meme' 'residentsleeper' Jesus, why are you putting such a big target on your back for someone to attack you? what do you gain?
Alur Seems like good town to me. He's intent on solving the game, asks questions, answers questions asked of him, Isn't going crazy trying to turn people on one another, or attacking anyone too hard. He seems to be frustrated at my lack of posting, understandable, I would be too. Sorry about that. I like Alurs posts, He's towney, he's not obnoxious, he doesn't seem like he's putting on any sort of act. He also posted "Gonna play some dota or cs to relax". You KNOW someone's taking the game seriously when they swap to dota of all games to chill out.
Kuragari Reationary to other people's posts, hasn't posted much in the way of solving the game, just spoke to other players. He did say he wouldn't go into reads until later in the first day, but for someone with quite a few posts, not much has been said. Not enough information on the guy to make a proper judgement. Slightly scummy, not enough to vote on.
darthfoley Very town, posted a lot of constructive things, good attitude. I'm on a phone so it's hard to quote everything I want to touch on, but my number 1 town spot goes to this guy. He posts a lot and is vocal about his reads, and backs them up with other posts. I think he'll be useful to town later on, and if we have a doctor, you should consider putting this guy on your save list.
nooniansoong My read is good-town, asks some good questions, spots inconsistencies, doesn't hop on other people's scum reads and back them up, tries to dissect them and point out any flaws, good for getting more information.
Trfel Scum read, has a whole lot of posts just asking questions without contributing any information, a whole lot of words with not much to say. Jumped on the voting for tumbleweed bandwagon simply because it's embarrassing the newbies caught tumble, and not Trfel himself? (Am I missing something here?) My biggest reason for thinking Trfel is scum is #607 where he says he's trying very hard not to direct the thread, then proceeds to direct the hell out of the thread dissecting tumbleweed's filter, this results in tumbleweed being the current lynch target. Maybe this is a sick town play and we're going to get rid of mafia on the first night, but I think, judging from his experience, Trfel is an experienced mafia player, and is scum trying to get a townie lynched on day 1.
from here on out my posts are going to be shorter, I'm getting a headache going over everything, this is my own fault for being so inactive at the start, there's so much content to wrap my head around.
Onegu Seems scummy, lots of short very defensive answers, "Big post coming from me" was actually just a bunch of short reactions to other people's posts. that being said, I disagree with several of his reads, especially Tea being mafia. that being said I do agree with his Trfel read. I don't think he's scum enough to vote, but definitely enough to keep my eye on.
_MexicanAlien Comes off as a noob at the start. I don't think he's scum, but he's not being very helpful to town, either. I disagree with his reads.
Eden Seems town, nice long posts, decent contribution
Shapelog Heck, man you've posted so much. Chill out a bit, think before you post. A lot of your posts are off-topic and it's not too helpful. I'm reading you as town for now but I'm going to keep a close eye on you from now on.
OKAY SO My top 3 for each Scum: Onegu, JesusIncarnate, Tfel Town: PMT, Darth, Alur Keep a close eye on: Shape, Tumble, Kuragari
I'm going to refrain from voting for at least a little while, if I even vote at all.+ Show Spoiler +
we are allowed to abstain from voting, right?
For now, please feel free to AMA, call me out, whatever. I'll be reading the thread a lot for at least the next few hours.
LOL THE BOLDED JUST SHOWED THAT HE READ THE OP. LAWL. anyways back to filter diving
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