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_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
January 31 2016 13:13 GMT
#1481
On January 31 2016 22:04 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 21:44 _MexicanAlien wrote:
On January 31 2016 15:45 darthfoley wrote:

I'm personally offended that you have Shapelog as more of a town read than me given that i'm the vigilante aka blue role lol

I'm sorry, when i woke up this morning after not reading the thread for the whole of Saturday, I missed that Blue claim. If you did claim.


He shot onegu

Did he claim this?
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 31 2016 13:17 GMT
#1482
Also ma, Your primary scum reads are based on a connection theory. Connection theories before any scum have flipped are generally bad.

I think both are being reasonable in not wanting to lynch the other .
Eden is not lymchabe today because the support for lynching him isn't there.
Trfel looks townie due to the size and quantity of his posts. (he's not but I think it makes sense that Eden thinks he is)

My advice to you in regards to scumhunting is to look at people's arguments behind their scumreads. Do they make sense to you or do they seem fake?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 31 2016 13:17 GMT
#1483
On January 31 2016 22:13 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2016 22:04 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 31 2016 21:44 _MexicanAlien wrote:
On January 31 2016 15:45 darthfoley wrote:

I'm personally offended that you have Shapelog as more of a town read than me given that i'm the vigilante aka blue role lol

I'm sorry, when i woke up this morning after not reading the thread for the whole of Saturday, I missed that Blue claim. If you did claim.


He shot onegu

Did he claim this?


Yes
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2016 14:44 GMT
#1484
On January 31 2016 16:10 Eden1892 wrote:
In the middle of rereading Trfel's filter this game and comparing to his most recent town and scum game. I am inclined to think his play this game is actually more reminiscent of his last mafia game from what I did read, but I'm also really skeptical about how useful this information is, since the basis of the comparison is basically all tonal and there are several things that may affect that. I'd have to give a more complete reread of all his past games, after adjusting for how recent they are (since how he played months/years ago isn't representative of anything) and I don't really feel like doing that.

I am curious about one thing though. Trfel:

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 08:45 Trfel wrote:
On January 28 2016 08:35 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 28 2016 08:26 Trfel wrote:
On January 28 2016 08:22 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 28 2016 08:21 Trfel wrote:
I didn't have an opinion on Tumblewood until I checked his filter more carefully, and then I realized that I was missing some important things.

Like what? Be specific. You cited literal none of these "important things" when you voted him.
Of course not, he has to answer my question first. Then he gets to know why he's mafia

What a cop out. I hate this.

I feel obligated not to press you further on this in the event I'm wrong and you're on to something.

But if I'm right and you're full of it, this is just giving you time to stall me out and avoid getting lynched.

If you're town you need to make a good faith effort to show me you're not full of it with this line of questioning. I read Tumblewood's filter and felt his suspicions of Shapelog were very consistent and understandable (though I disagree with them). This question looks very do-nothing, like a lot of your questions have been this game. And your flip in those posts I cited is really suspicious to me.

I'm trying to act in good faith and not screw up your play if you are town. Meet me halfway and give me a reason to believe you're not just hot air with this.
Eden, I'm trying very hard to not direct the thread. It's a newbie game, I feel like the new players should lead it.

Basically, I don't feel that Tumblewood actually cares about his scumreads. His filter seems to be contributing, but while it is contributing, it doesn't seem like he's scumhunting. He's always scumreading the top suspects, but not talking about them, either, which is probably the biggest example of this.


Why are you arguing that I'm mafia for not directing the thread, when you yourself said that you felt you shouldn't be directing it yourself? It would seem to me that you would believe you're town, in which case you've already seen a reason why someone would not want to direct the thread as town.

I proceed to give you my own reason for not being as directing as maybe I normally would be (which isn't even fully true anyway -- my style as town these days is decidedly not directing the town, unless I have something really good and I think that I need to step up and take control to get that something going), but then you scumread me for not being directing.

This strikes me as inconsistent.
First, you didn't agree with why I didn't want to direct people. Thus my reason doesn't apply to you.

Second, it's not that you aren't directing people, it's that you aren't caring. I see "I prefer this lynch, but you guys are lynching this other guy, fine". Directing is screaming and shouting. Caring town gives an "I'd rather lynch this guy because of a b c" but doesn't try to shove it down people's throats.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 31 2016 14:47 GMT
#1485
Damn Eden why are you throwing him softballs
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2016 14:52 GMT
#1486
@Tumblewood, who do you want to lynch and why?



Again, I don't have much time today. I expect to be back sometime before the deadline, but maybe not.

If there is a veteran, look really closely at nooniansoong, this makes his RB claim very suspect.

If there is a counterclaim, be really careful. Remember that mafia only CCs/claims if they think they will win. And they only need one mislynch to win the game.

I think you no-lynch in MYLO. Almost no matter what. The guaranteed more time + a bit more info is better than hoping for a doctor save, I think. Only reason not to no-lynch is if you give up or are miserable.

Anyway, if I don't say this again, please take a look at my analysis post here. I could be wrong, I could be very wrong (kush, if you're mafia, I hate you), but please consider what I've said and look at their filters and judge for yourself.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 31 2016 14:54 GMT
#1487
Trfel put your vote down for ikid?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2016 15:09 GMT
#1488
Didn't I already do that? On phone, but he's the one I'm most confident in being mafia.

Tumble has some of those posts where it looks like he's trying to figure things out, Eden is a bit uncertain too.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 31 2016 15:13 GMT
#1489
On February 01 2016 00:09 Trfel wrote:
Didn't I already do that? On phone, but he's the one I'm most confident in being mafia.

Tumble has some of those posts where it looks like he's trying to figure things out, Eden is a bit uncertain too.


so then you were lying when you said this?

I'm most certain in Ikidomari, but I'd be willing to lynch any of my mafia reads. I'm fairly confident in all of them.

Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2016 15:35 GMT
#1490
I'm willing to lynch them too, just a bit less certain. I'm willing to compromise a little here, for obvious reasons.
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
January 31 2016 16:23 GMT
#1491
On January 31 2016 22:17 nooniansoong wrote:
Also ma, Your primary scum reads are based on a connection theory. Connection theories before any scum have flipped are generally bad.

I think both are being reasonable in not wanting to lynch the other .
Eden is not lymchabe today because the support for lynching him isn't there.
Trfel looks townie due to the size and quantity of his posts. (he's not but I think it makes sense that Eden thinks he is)

My advice to you in regards to scumhunting is to look at people's arguments behind their scumreads. Do they make sense to you or do they seem fake?


OK yeahi get it. Thanks for the tip.
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2016 16:25 GMT
#1492
For the record. I don't expect you listen to me until tomorrow.

Don't look at peoples arguments and see if they make sense. That doesn't matter. Look at peoples arguments and see the motivation behind them.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 31 2016 16:37 GMT
#1493
On February 01 2016 01:25 Trfel wrote:
For the record. I don't expect you listen to me until tomorrow.

Don't look at peoples arguments and see if they make sense. That doesn't matter. Look at peoples arguments and see the motivation behind them.

The motivation is usually to get someone lynched rgardless of if they are town or scum.

Unless they are busing, scum has to make up reasons to scumread someone. That's where you see the difference in alignment.
Imo
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2016 16:40 GMT
#1494
On February 01 2016 01:37 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 01:25 Trfel wrote:
For the record. I don't expect you listen to me until tomorrow.

Don't look at peoples arguments and see if they make sense. That doesn't matter. Look at peoples arguments and see the motivation behind them.

The motivation is usually to get someone lynched rgardless of if they are town or scum.

Unless they are busing, scum has to make up reasons to scumread someone. That's where you see the difference in alignment.
Imo
I mean, I guess if you dont get it then you just don't get it. I don't really get it. It's hard.

But it's better than just lynching the people who play the worst, if you want to win, anyway.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 31 2016 17:00 GMT
#1495
On January 31 2016 21:43 LoneMeow wrote:
Vote count:

Trfel (2): nooniansoong, _MexicanAlien, darthfoley
JesusIncarnate (2): Shapelog, PepperMintTea, Eden1892
Ikidomari (2): Trfel, darthfoley
Eden1892 (1): Shapelog
Tumblewood (0): Trfel

Not voting (3): Tumblewood, JesusIncarnate, Ikidomari

Currently, Trfel is set to be lynched.
Deadline is Sunday, Jan 31 8:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).
Voting is mandatory!

If there are errors, please let us know.


Interested that 3 people haven't voted yet, all of whom have been scum read by people. Our voting is spread too thin right now
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 31 2016 17:36 GMT
#1496
As long as one of trfel, jesus, or ikid gets lynched, I don't care all that much.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
January 31 2016 18:13 GMT
#1497
@Trfel In an ideal world? Shapelog. He's been acting scummy all game (look at my previous posts for examples), and he's filled up 15 pages of filter with nothing posts.
good times for all
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 31 2016 18:14 GMT
#1498
On February 01 2016 03:13 Tumblewood wrote:
@Trfel In an ideal world? Shapelog. He's been acting scummy all game (look at my previous posts for examples), and he's filled up 15 pages of filter with nothing posts.

Um did you see that mega post
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2016 18:32 GMT
#1499
##UNVOTE
##VOTE: Ikidomari


Not comfortable enough with lynching Trfel. Jesus likely to be modkilled, or replaced, so Iki is the best choice.
Pretty sure all my d1 arguments basically still apply and that I let Iki go for no reason.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 31 2016 18:33 GMT
#1500
I'm getting more convinced that the mafia team is Eden, Ikidomari, and Tumblewood.
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