EPTDid he claim this?
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
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nooniansoong
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I think both are being reasonable in not wanting to lynch the other . Eden is not lymchabe today because the support for lynching him isn't there. Trfel looks townie due to the size and quantity of his posts. (he's not but I think it makes sense that Eden thinks he is) My advice to you in regards to scumhunting is to look at people's arguments behind their scumreads. Do they make sense to you or do they seem fake? | ||
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nooniansoong
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Trfel
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On January 31 2016 16:10 Eden1892 wrote: First, you didn't agree with why I didn't want to direct people. Thus my reason doesn't apply to you.In the middle of rereading Trfel's filter this game and comparing to his most recent town and scum game. I am inclined to think his play this game is actually more reminiscent of his last mafia game from what I did read, but I'm also really skeptical about how useful this information is, since the basis of the comparison is basically all tonal and there are several things that may affect that. I'd have to give a more complete reread of all his past games, after adjusting for how recent they are (since how he played months/years ago isn't representative of anything) and I don't really feel like doing that. I am curious about one thing though. Trfel: Why are you arguing that I'm mafia for not directing the thread, when you yourself said that you felt you shouldn't be directing it yourself? It would seem to me that you would believe you're town, in which case you've already seen a reason why someone would not want to direct the thread as town. I proceed to give you my own reason for not being as directing as maybe I normally would be (which isn't even fully true anyway -- my style as town these days is decidedly not directing the town, unless I have something really good and I think that I need to step up and take control to get that something going), but then you scumread me for not being directing. This strikes me as inconsistent. Second, it's not that you aren't directing people, it's that you aren't caring. I see "I prefer this lynch, but you guys are lynching this other guy, fine". Directing is screaming and shouting. Caring town gives an "I'd rather lynch this guy because of a b c" but doesn't try to shove it down people's throats. | ||
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nooniansoong
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Trfel
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Again, I don't have much time today. I expect to be back sometime before the deadline, but maybe not. If there is a veteran, look really closely at nooniansoong, this makes his RB claim very suspect. If there is a counterclaim, be really careful. Remember that mafia only CCs/claims if they think they will win. And they only need one mislynch to win the game. I think you no-lynch in MYLO. Almost no matter what. The guaranteed more time + a bit more info is better than hoping for a doctor save, I think. Only reason not to no-lynch is if you give up or are miserable. Anyway, if I don't say this again, please take a look at my analysis post here. I could be wrong, I could be very wrong (kush, if you're mafia, I hate you), but please consider what I've said and look at their filters and judge for yourself. | ||
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nooniansoong
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Tumble has some of those posts where it looks like he's trying to figure things out, Eden is a bit uncertain too. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On February 01 2016 00:09 Trfel wrote: Didn't I already do that? On phone, but he's the one I'm most confident in being mafia. Tumble has some of those posts where it looks like he's trying to figure things out, Eden is a bit uncertain too. so then you were lying when you said this? I'm most certain in Ikidomari, but I'd be willing to lynch any of my mafia reads. I'm fairly confident in all of them. | ||
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Trfel
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
On January 31 2016 22:17 nooniansoong wrote: Also ma, Your primary scum reads are based on a connection theory. Connection theories before any scum have flipped are generally bad. I think both are being reasonable in not wanting to lynch the other . Eden is not lymchabe today because the support for lynching him isn't there. Trfel looks townie due to the size and quantity of his posts. (he's not but I think it makes sense that Eden thinks he is) My advice to you in regards to scumhunting is to look at people's arguments behind their scumreads. Do they make sense to you or do they seem fake? OK yeahi get it. Thanks for the tip. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Don't look at peoples arguments and see if they make sense. That doesn't matter. Look at peoples arguments and see the motivation behind them. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On February 01 2016 01:25 Trfel wrote: For the record. I don't expect you listen to me until tomorrow. Don't look at peoples arguments and see if they make sense. That doesn't matter. Look at peoples arguments and see the motivation behind them. The motivation is usually to get someone lynched rgardless of if they are town or scum. Unless they are busing, scum has to make up reasons to scumread someone. That's where you see the difference in alignment. Imo | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On February 01 2016 01:37 nooniansoong wrote: I mean, I guess if you dont get it then you just don't get it. I don't really get it. It's hard.The motivation is usually to get someone lynched rgardless of if they are town or scum. Unless they are busing, scum has to make up reasons to scumread someone. That's where you see the difference in alignment. Imo But it's better than just lynching the people who play the worst, if you want to win, anyway. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On January 31 2016 21:43 LoneMeow wrote: Vote count: Trfel (2): nooniansoong, _MexicanAlien, JesusIncarnate (2): Ikidomari (2): Trfel, darthfoley Eden1892 (1): Shapelog Tumblewood (0): Not voting (3): Tumblewood, JesusIncarnate, Ikidomari Currently, Trfel is set to be lynched. Deadline is Sunday, Jan 31 8:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! If there are errors, please let us know. Interested that 3 people haven't voted yet, all of whom have been scum read by people. Our voting is spread too thin right now | ||
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nooniansoong
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On February 01 2016 03:13 Tumblewood wrote: @Trfel In an ideal world? Shapelog. He's been acting scummy all game (look at my previous posts for examples), and he's filled up 15 pages of filter with nothing posts. Um did you see that mega post | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
##VOTE: Ikidomari Not comfortable enough with lynching Trfel. Jesus likely to be modkilled, or replaced, so Iki is the best choice. Pretty sure all my d1 arguments basically still apply and that I let Iki go for no reason. | ||
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Trfel
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