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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 28 2016 22:01 GMT
#1001
oh nvm I guess jesus has another hour
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 22:02 GMT
#1002
On January 29 2016 06:57 nooniansoong wrote:
Lol shape I wonder what you as mafia would be like. I'd imagine you'd be pretty obvious.

[image loading]
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 28 2016 22:03 GMT
#1003
Welp, it sucks we mislynched but I think that given the fact that Kuragari had done nothing worth rescinding a scum read, it was definitely reasonable.

VCA:

Final vote count:

Kuragari42 (6): Alur, darthfoley, PepperMintTea, darthfoley, PepperMintTea, Trfel, Shapelog, Eden1892
JesusIncarnate (3): nooniansoong, darthfoley, Ikidomari, Tumblewood
Tumblewood (2): Trfel, darthfoley, _MexicanAlien, Kuragari42
Ikidomari (0): Eden1892, _MexicanAlien, Eden1892, Shapelog
Trfel (0): Eden1892
Onegu (0): Eden1892, Shapelog, nooniansoong, Trfel, PepperMintTea
PepperMintTea (0): nooniansoong, Shapelog

Not voting (2): JesusIncarnate, Onegu


Looking at the 6 that voted for Kuragari, I think it's probable that one mafia is on the wagon, maybe 2? Kuragari flipping town doesn't change how I view Alur, given that we were the first two iirc to really start wagoning him. I have strong read both PMT and Eden for a while, Shapelog as town lean, and null on Trfel for a while. I will have to look at their filters.

Without Kuragari's vote on Tumblewood, the final VC is

6 Kura
3 Jesus
1 Tumblewood

I think it was super safe for mafia to stay on Jesus because once Kuragari's wagon got steam, there was not going to be a counter wagon. It also gives town cred to Kush, Ikido and Tumblewood for not lynching town, and "staying" on their vote. I'm also fairly certain that at least one of Ikido/Tumblewood is scum. I'll have a look through their stuff too, specifically Tumblewood. At first glance, this also makes me town read MexicanAlien more
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 22:03 GMT
#1004
On January 29 2016 07:01 nooniansoong wrote:
oh nvm I guess jesus has another hour

No it is 5. He posted it around 12.
He should have it by now.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 28 2016 22:04 GMT
#1005
On January 29 2016 07:00 nooniansoong wrote:
I like how jesus promised to do stuff and never did.


Very exactly.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 28 2016 22:06 GMT
#1006
Darthfoley, you think that JesusIncarnate is mafia?
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
January 28 2016 22:08 GMT
#1007
Also Kush Am i Town/null to you now. since i am inferring that you wonder how i play as mafia?
Or are you not going to tell me.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
January 28 2016 22:13 GMT
#1008
I was halfway though my VCA when I realized I was doing it on the votes against Ikidomari. I don't know why.
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 28 2016 22:15 GMT
#1009
My time is short for a while -- on phone no charger low battery.

Trfel why do you need my permission to speak to me? Just talk.
What is it you want?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 28 2016 22:15 GMT
#1010
On January 29 2016 07:06 Trfel wrote:
Darthfoley, you think that JesusIncarnate is mafia?


He has done nothing to change my earlier opinion of him. However, that proved to unsuccessful this past vote on Kuragari so
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 28 2016 22:16 GMT
#1011
On January 29 2016 07:13 _MexicanAlien wrote:
I was halfway though my VCA when I realized I was doing it on the votes against Ikidomari. I don't know why.


I am interested to see your reads
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 28 2016 22:17 GMT
#1012
Shapelog, a word of advice.

Focus on what matters.

Don't say everything that pops into your head. It's not all gonna be useful.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 28 2016 22:19 GMT
#1013
Eden, I really don't get why you're scumreading Ikidaromi. I feel that your case demonstrated some logical flaws in his play, but I don't know why this makes him mafia. Can you please explain this again?
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
January 28 2016 22:19 GMT
#1014
On January 29 2016 07:16 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 07:13 _MexicanAlien wrote:
I was halfway though my VCA when I realized I was doing it on the votes against Ikidomari. I don't know why.


I am interested to see your reads


Wait my read reads? Like not having to do with the fake VCA? My general scum, town reads?
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 28 2016 22:22 GMT
#1015
On January 29 2016 07:19 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 07:16 darthfoley wrote:
On January 29 2016 07:13 _MexicanAlien wrote:
I was halfway though my VCA when I realized I was doing it on the votes against Ikidomari. I don't know why.


I am interested to see your reads


Wait my read reads? Like not having to do with the fake VCA? My general scum, town reads?


Well, I would like know whether the VC has changed anything, who you read more town or more scum because of the vote
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 28 2016 22:23 GMT
#1016
On January 29 2016 07:19 Trfel wrote:
Eden, I really don't get why you're scumreading Ikidaromi. I feel that your case demonstrated some logical flaws in his play, but I don't know why this makes him mafia. Can you please explain this again?

No.

What parts didn't you understand? That post is long and I have no time right now to regurgitate it. Ask me specific questions that don't have open ended answers.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 28 2016 22:26 GMT
#1017
On January 29 2016 07:23 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 07:19 Trfel wrote:
Eden, I really don't get why you're scumreading Ikidaromi. I feel that your case demonstrated some logical flaws in his play, but I don't know why this makes him mafia. Can you please explain this again?

No.

What parts didn't you understand? That post is long and I have no time right now to regurgitate it. Ask me specific questions that don't have open ended answers.
I don't think that being wishy-washy is a scum tell.

I know lots of players who are like that as town, including myself. I don't feel that Ikidaromi was avoiding committing to his reads. This seems to be the majority of your case on him.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 28 2016 22:33 GMT
#1018
It is -- especially in absence of much explanation of his reads, going back and forth on a lot of people in your reads is basically tantamount to not having reads at all. It's even more prevalent among newer players, who if town may have reservations but will talk about their reads and explain themselves
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 28 2016 22:35 GMT
#1019
Well we basically just used that argument to lynch Kuragari and we we wrong
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 28 2016 22:37 GMT
#1020
On January 29 2016 07:33 Eden1892 wrote:
It is -- especially in absence of much explanation of his reads, going back and forth on a lot of people in your reads is basically tantamount to not having reads at all. It's even more prevalent among newer players, who if town may have reservations but will talk about their reads and explain themselves
I feel like the second sentence you said is more characteristic of Ikidaromi's play this game.

You're saying that he's been going back and forth on his reads all the time, and thus hasn't been committal at all, so he is mafia, correct?

Because if that is the case, I've felt that Ikidaromi has largely stuck with his reads and has just been sharing all of the thoughts on his mind, not only the ones that point in his conclusion. I should probably look again to confirm this, though.
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