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On January 29 2016 00:34 Tumblewood wrote:
On phone so I can't quote, but
Q: What don't you like about Onegu's big post?
A: It was a huge post that would appear to be helping, but most of it was just "I'd sheep kush on that" and "Bad newbie, bad," so it was a huge nothing post.
Q: You said Onegu was scummy but then said he wasn't.
A: He's just as scummy, but there are four people I see as scummier, so I would suspect Onegu less anyway.
Q: Why did you add JesusIncarnate and Ikidomari to your scum list when town did?
A: Because I am an easily convinced man. For real, Ikidomari had only just posted, and JesusIncarnate I'd half forgotten about and half expected to post. If he doesn't post before EOD I think he's the scummiest.
I have posted from a phone since the beginning, doesn't stop me. It's harder but still very possible.
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I got a Min to Comment.
On January 28 2016 23:52 darthfoley wrote:
I get your point Shapelog, but what I (and maybe Eden) are saying is that, if Ikidomari is actually mafia, we can just kill him tomorrow or the next day. He will undoubtedly make more slip ups and mistakes if his first post is the norm. I'm more interested in lynch scum who seems more dangerous to do things later in the game right now. Ikidomari could go either way for me because of what people have already said... others, I am much more confident on.
Now you want to give your scum partner a day till you have to bus him, so he can try to get town to believe him.
I can maybe understand it though from you as town, that you want big game scum out the window.
Let me sit on it.
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On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2. But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment. Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit.
Rofl. What doc? How can you be sure this is setup A) or C)?
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On January 29 2016 00:55 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2. But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment. Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit. Rofl. What doc? How can you be sure this is setup A) or C)?
He could be sure if he was Mafia
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On January 29 2016 00:49 _MexicanAlien wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 00:31 Ikidomari wrote:On January 29 2016 00:26 _MexicanAlien wrote:
You might want to show how darthfoley and eden1982 were not bailing you out or giving you backdoors. if you guys were a scum team you would ignore this point. Sure, Here's why we aren't a scum team. If I was mafia, I fucked up bad, real bad. What I did was a horrendous play for mafia, and if eden and darth were my teammates, if they had two brain cells to rub together they'd immediately throw me under the bus and distance themselves from me, not try and rescue me. Sure, they'd be playing from behind 1 man down, but it's a far better option than losing the game then and there. Put yourself in Mafia's shoes, if your ally shits the bed, do you help him clean it up, getting dirty in the process, or do you pretend you don't know the guy? Haha. Turns out I was WIFOMing you. Mafia would never ignore the accusation in question + Show Spoiler +Shape log says darthfoley and eden1892 gave Ikidomari a back door or of the situation. Seeing as Darth and eden1892 completely dropped all accusation almost immediately, this is not as wild a point as it seems. , because if they were shown to have ignored it they would be nailed. A Mafia would try to bail out scummates from being associated with himself, like you just did. Or tried to do Also think of it this way. If darthfoley and eden1892 were successful, you would get off scot-free. No one would suspect you. High- risk, high reward.
Let's take this a step further then. In the hypothetical situation where I'm mafia:
either Eden or Darth aren't my Teammates, I've been caught as obvious scum. My best play to help my team at this point is to put a strong townie under suspicion. I "fall" for your obvious WIFOM, and either A) You believe my response and drop suspicion on me, or B) "you got me", and you now suspect a good town to be mafia.
Don't tell me how WIFOM works, then expect me to immediately fall for it jesus. I made a bad play in my first ever game, but I'm not a moron.
As to why I responded, Either I ignore the post, other people read your "if you don't respond to this you're scum", and conclude that I am, indeed scum
If I do reply you pull this WIFOM shit on me, and I at least have a chance to retort it.
If I'm still alive come tomorrow I'm going to be riding you hard
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On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2. But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment. Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit.
I was hoping to be the first one to call you out on Seeming certain there's a doctor in the game, when we don't know that, but I got pissed off at mexican's post and missed my chance, still. Maybe you mistyped or your english is bad, or this is bait to get a stupid mafia to respond and say "Hey how do you know there's a doctor", instantly redflagging them.
On January 29 2016 00:41 Eden1892 wrote:
I am far too easily swayed in these games. Was kind of hoping one of the vet players would unambiguously say that my Iki case was good or bad, but I guess I can't bank on always having somebody to get in my ear and tell me I'm playing badly. lol
I think I'm just gonna vote for Iki after all. I don't think I want Trfel to go today. Still not feeling this Jesus train -- still too many people on him for things that don't make him mafia to make me comfortable with it.
Really nothing changed to make me think that Iki couldn't be mafia. Might be letting him off the hook too easily, idk. I reread my case and I feel like Iki didn't really rebut what I was saying, so probably I should just lynch him.
##VOTE: Ikidomari
I feel like Onegu also hasn't done anything in a hot minute. That's probably a good reason to kill him too.
I don't really have time before sleep to put together a proper defence, and the vote is in 5 hours, so I guess I'll go to bed and wake up to find out if I'm still in the game or not. I hope you change your mind, but town or mafia, logically speaking I'm a good day 1 kill. Good luck.
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Yeah that's what I was insinuating. Another explanation is him making the slip as doc, but I'd think that's a lot less likely to happen than a scumslip. And even if both doctors and mafia are equally likely to make that slip its a 75% chance of being mafia (assuming this is not a townie who's extremely ignorant of the rules). The fact that he's already being scumread doesn't help either.
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The post above was a reply to MexicanAlien
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On January 29 2016 00:57 Ikidomari wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 00:49 _MexicanAlien wrote:On January 29 2016 00:31 Ikidomari wrote:On January 29 2016 00:26 _MexicanAlien wrote:
You might want to show how darthfoley and eden1982 were not bailing you out or giving you backdoors. if you guys were a scum team you would ignore this point. Sure, Here's why we aren't a scum team. If I was mafia, I fucked up bad, real bad. What I did was a horrendous play for mafia, and if eden and darth were my teammates, if they had two brain cells to rub together they'd immediately throw me under the bus and distance themselves from me, not try and rescue me. Sure, they'd be playing from behind 1 man down, but it's a far better option than losing the game then and there. Put yourself in Mafia's shoes, if your ally shits the bed, do you help him clean it up, getting dirty in the process, or do you pretend you don't know the guy? Haha. Turns out I was WIFOMing you. Mafia would never ignore the accusation in question + Show Spoiler +Shape log says darthfoley and eden1892 gave Ikidomari a back door or of the situation. Seeing as Darth and eden1892 completely dropped all accusation almost immediately, this is not as wild a point as it seems. , because if they were shown to have ignored it they would be nailed. A Mafia would try to bail out scummates from being associated with himself, like you just did. Or tried to do Also think of it this way. If darthfoley and eden1892 were successful, you would get off scot-free. No one would suspect you. High- risk, high reward. Let's take this a step further then. In the hypothetical situation where I'm mafia: either Eden or Darth aren't my Teammates, I've been caught as obvious scum. My best play to help my team at this point is to put a strong townie under suspicion. I "fall" for your obvious WIFOM, and either A) You believe my response and drop suspicion on me, or B) "you got me", and you now suspect a good town to be mafia. Don't tell me how WIFOM works, then expect me to immediately fall for it jesus. I made a bad play in my first ever game, but I'm not a moron. As to why I responded, Either I ignore the post, other people read your "if you don't respond to this you're scum", and conclude that I am, indeed scum If I do reply you pull this WIFOM shit on me, and I at least have a chance to retort it. If I'm still alive come tomorrow I'm going to be riding you hard
If we believe your response, you still look like scum. The only thing you accomplish if to take suspicion off darthfoley and eden1892 . if we don't believe you, you, Darth and eden look like scum
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On January 29 2016 00:31 Ikidomari wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 00:26 _MexicanAlien wrote:On January 29 2016 00:16 Ikidomari wrote:
Hey guys, there's obviously a lot of heat on me right now, and I'm going to be around for about an hour or so before bed, if you'd like to ask me any questions feel free, if you want my thoughts on something let me know.
The next time I'll be active is my lunch break tomorrow (probably about 13-14 hours from the time of this post), and then after that will be when I get home from work (18-20 hours from this post).
I'll be as transparent as possible in my answers. You might want to show how darthfoley and eden1982 were not bailing you out or giving you backdoors. if you guys were a scum team you would ignore this point. Sure, Here's why we aren't a scum team. If I was mafia, I fucked up bad, real bad. What I did was a horrendous play for mafia, and if eden and darth were my teammates, if they had two brain cells to rub together they'd immediately throw me under the bus and distance themselves from me, not try and rescue me. Sure, they'd be playing from behind 1 man down, but it's a far better option than losing the game then and there. Put yourself in Mafia's shoes, if your ally shits the bed, do you help him clean it up, getting dirty in the process, or do you pretend you don't know the guy?
That depends on if they feel confident that they have the thread presence and enough town cred power to try to wave it. Which they do.
But since there was almost 17 hours left, this is a moot point.
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Sorry for that first part of my response to mexican not reading properly, I changed the way I wanted to word things and messed up the formatting, but I'm sure you guys can work out what my point was.
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On January 29 2016 00:55 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2. But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment. Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit. Rofl. What doc? How can you be sure this is setup A) or C)?
That is a scum slip if I ever saw it.
Also I responded to your question about Town cred.
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Actually that scum slip is ridiculously huge if he is scum and gets lynched.
Maybe I am wrong about my Tinfoil Team, Maybe one of Eden/Darth isn't scum and instead Kura is scum.
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Okay I have to sleep, Hopefully I can play with you all tomorrow, if I die, you did what you needed to do, good luck to everyone.
Sorry for such a poor showing in my first game, I was super busy with life right when we started, and now well, it is what it is.
Peace~
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Just a quick thing Ikidomari. I dislike your defeatism.
If you're town lynching you is always bad. "I'm probably the weakest player in this game, so feel free to lynch me for that reason" is a turn off.
In addition to that, you asked for definitions of certain mafia terms. These terms were used from the very beginning of the thread. If you didn't understand them as you read through the thread initially, and you didn't bother to look them up or ask about their meaning asap, it looks like you're not that interested in understanding the game. In any case I think a tryhard newb townie looks up terms on his own.
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@Alur
Your above post suggests that you thought/someone thought that he was/gave off a tryhard vibe. When/Why did you think that if it is you who suggests it?
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@Alur you asked "What makes trfel solid?"
Not telling. Get a majority of votes on me and maybe I will tell you.
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On January 29 2016 00:55 Alur wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2. But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment. Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit. Rofl. What doc? How can you be sure this is setup A) or C)?
This is so god damn bad. Either you're doc and you just outed yourself, or you're mafia and let slip that we're playing either A or C. There's a 3/13 chance your mafia, there's a 1/13 chance you're doc. And you're scummy as hell
##Unvote
##Vote: Kuragari
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On January 29 2016 01:38 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 00:55 Alur wrote:On January 29 2016 00:48 Kuragari42 wrote:On January 28 2016 15:38 Ikidomari wrote:
Here's my last point in defense for now. If I was mafia, I'm most afraid of Eden and Darth, and people in the thread know that.
If I survive being lynched today, who dies in the night will pretty much confirm whether or not I'm mafia / town, and I'm an easy vote for day 2. But.. I think that any mafia would consider NK'ing Eden, probably Darth as well. This really has little indication of your alignment. Not to mention that the doc in this game might change up the NK a bit. Rofl. What doc? How can you be sure this is setup A) or C)? This is so god damn bad. Either you're doc and you just outed yourself, or you're mafia and let slip that we're playing either A or C. There's a 3/13 chance your mafia, there's a 1/13 chance you're doc. And you're scummy as hell ##Unvote ##Vote: Kuragari
OR he didn't understand the setup.
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edit: you're*
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##Vote: Kuragari
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