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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
2. PepperMintTea 3. Onegu | ||
Trfel
7015 Posts
Another reason to be suspicious of Onegu is his answer to Eden's suspicion. Onegu's posts were focused on setting down discussion, while he claimed that he was promoting it. That statement can't come from town with Onegu's post attitude so far. | ||
_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
Shapelog was spouting some seriously scummy stuff in the early stages of the game. While you might say it's 'too scummy to be scum', you have to remember he's a newbie. So he is prone to make the 'obvious' mistakes as Mafia. Also, looking stupid is a bonus for him if he is scum. Let's pretend for a second that he is confirmed townie. Wouldn't he try to amend his bad rep from early on by trying to keep in-game focus, stop spamming, and find scum? You have to admit a good deal of his posts are SPAM, and what little input he does give seems hard on other people's reads. Or just lucky questioning. So why is Shapelog not trying to improve his gameplay, like he said he wanted to? | ||
Trfel
7015 Posts
Shapelog is playing a high activity style, which is just how some people play. There's nothing inherently wrong with it. | ||
Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
For me scum is: Onegu PeppermintTea Tumbleweed? Tumbleweed hasn't done much and his case one me was bad IMO. that is why he is here. I have more reasoning for Onegy and Peppermint. @Mexican Are you really putting the main case of your case as "He is spamming and not improving his game play?" You do realizes there are coachs and people who like Eden who told me why set up speculation is bad | ||
LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
Onegu (3): Eden1892, Shapelog, nooniansoong PepperMintTea (0): Not voting (10): PepperMintTea, Tumblewood, JesusIncarnate, Alur, Kuragari42, darthfoley, Ikidomari, Trfel, Onegu, _MexicanAlien Currently, Onegu is set to be lynched. Deadline is Thursday, Jan 28 8:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! If there are errors, please let us know. | ||
Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
But you have all i have talk about. From me thinking that Darth could be trying to be buddy Eden to scum reading Pepperment. You are klinging to crappy reasons to lynch me. | ||
JesusIncarnate
9 Posts
i was planning on posting yesterday but I got busy. In fact i'll be a bit busy till friday. Everyone is hating me because they aint me. /yawn just wait until i clutch the game later, you peasants will be praising me after that. Shapelog is leaning more town now, but im not outright town-reading them. Other than that its the same. I do not feel confident in lynching Onegu however, the people on the vote are particularly shocking. I'll prob do filter posts when i have more time, as right now i can only read thread and type shit. However, just wait. I assure you all, i am an incredibly strong player. | ||
Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
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Shapelog
United States5184 Posts
On January 28 2016 04:02 JesusIncarnate wrote: Shapelog is leaning more town now, but im not outright town-reading them. Why the change of heart if you don't mind me asking? | ||
Trfel
7015 Posts
##vote Onegu | ||
Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On January 28 2016 02:08 Shapelog wrote: You woke me up. also i fliped because I didn't say the quoted phase ![]() Idc if i have cred, and why should i care. Unless I am getting mislynched there isn't no need to please people. I rather post reads and do shit. Show nested quote + On January 28 2016 02:01 darthfoley wrote: On January 28 2016 01:41 Shapelog wrote: On January 28 2016 01:35 _MexicanAlien wrote: On January 28 2016 01:21 PepperMintTea wrote: I was asked the same question more than once and that is the general form. On January 27 2016 09:17 nooniansoong wrote: Why would townies be nervous? On January 27 2016 13:08 _MexicanAlien wrote: For PepperMintTea: You said you think that Shapelog seemed "overexcited or nervous". If he was in fact town, why would he be nervous? He should be put off by accusations/scum observations. Also, what about being townie make him overexcited? I can see how rolling mafia would make a noob overexcited or nervous. Considering I read shapelog as town and these are the questions I was asked , my "rephrasing of the question" is in fact not interesting. It appears you have not understood what I said and I apologise for that. Let me simplify things for you. I don't know the exact reason behind ShapeLog being nervous or over excited. There could be many reasons, I gave a few. However I do think he came across as nervous or over excited, that is my opinion. As a result of this it caused his haphazardous posting. In my opinion Haphazardous posting of that form typically comes from town. hence my conclusion. If you don't understand that then I feel sorry for you. It's Occam's razor. The best reason for the way he is acting is that he is Mafia. And the most plausible reason for you excluding this very obvious solution is that you are Mafia too. Yeah I am totally mafia with PepperMintTea. Totally because how I was the first person to make a mini case about her and i will totally push my scum mate into the lynch candidates (Kush/noon did talk about it, but he just asked questions and voted) Yeah Totally Brah. No offesne brah, but if I were your mafia teammate I would probably ask you to think up a case against me, simply because it probably wouldn't stick. Similar to what MexicanAlien said. But Brah would you let me push you onto the radar to the townies? You say you don't care about towncred. But it's also important for townies to actually read as town, since it makes it easier for the rest of the town to mafia. My main scumreads are Trfel and Kuragari42 at the moment. I'm not sure what to think of Shapelog, but would also have expected him to calm down had he been town. My problem is that I'm leaning scum on too many people right now. I'd very much like Jesus to elaborate on his reads. I'd also very much like Eden (who I'm leaning towards being town) to elaborate on the current state of his Onegu read. | ||
Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
Anyhow, were also approaching a point where the lurking australian needs to start contributing. | ||
Trfel
7015 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On January 28 2016 03:10 Alur wrote: Have you ever made a knot a blanket?Show nested quote + On January 28 2016 02:42 Trfel wrote: Fine. Next time, please don't assume that you know everything. On January 27 2016 09:23 nooniansoong wrote: On January 27 2016 08:49 Alur wrote: 2. Slight townread on _MexicanAlien. He seems to have a genuine interest in solving the game. Didn't know that mafia knows the setup (could be WIFOM I guess, but whatevs). What could be wifom and why is it wifom? FYI mafia doesn't know the setup but they have a better idea of it because they know each other's roles. On January 27 2016 10:01 Alur wrote: On January 27 2016 09:23 nooniansoong wrote: On January 27 2016 08:49 Alur wrote: 2. Slight townread on _MexicanAlien. He seems to have a genuine interest in solving the game. Didn't know that mafia knows the setup (could be WIFOM I guess, but whatevs). What could be wifom and why is it wifom? FYI mafia doesn't know the setup but they have a better idea of it because they know each other's roles. 3. Slight mafiaread on Darthfoley I would've expected him to be more excited about rolling town considering his previous game. His posting also feels a little casual and uninvested at times: Why is it scummy to be casual? Going forward: Talk about other players. On January 27 2016 07:34 _MexicanAlien wrote: Is anyone else here seeing a pattern? Not sure what you're referring to, very curious to hear what you've noticed. He already explained it I think. Firstly #2 states: "The mafia will be informed as to which setup is chosen, but the town will not!" So yes, the mafia does know the setup. MexicanAlien posted: On January 27 2016 07:23 _MexicanAlien wrote: Yes why talk about blue roles? This could possibly give the scum information. This may or may not help them but we shouldn't unwittingly give them any more To me, this post suggests that MexicanAlien was not aware of the fact that mafia knows the setup. If he was mafia, he would know that mafia knew the setup. I think, it's WIFOM because it could be a gambit to make himself seem town. Regarding being casual: Not necessarily scummy, especially early on day 1. But when I look through his filter he seems too content on just making casual conversation (for my taste), but it's only as strong as any day 1 read can be, which is a caveat that I don't feel the need to post with my every read. I was also hoping for him to defend himself. Regarding the pattern: I don't think he explained it. He talks about a bunch of stuff after #235, but I can't tell if the observations he makes are different/unrelated to the pattern he claims to have seen in #235. On January 27 2016 10:10 nooniansoong wrote: What was nooniansoong trying to say by the last quote? Alur's conclusion about _MexicanAlien wasn't very clear, because when he explained it, he said that he thinks it's WIFOM, and WIFOM isn't alignment indicative. It seems that Alur feels that _MexicanAlien is town for reasons that are partially WIFOM, but it's not completely clear. Furthermore, what is nooniansoong saying when he says that the point makes sense? Does this mean that he understands it, or agrees with it? The two are very different things.alur yeah that point about MA makes sense. It's okay if you find my conclusion unclear, you are of course free to ask me to elaborate on this. But I only really made one "point" about MA. So I still can't see what other point about MA (coming from me) you might think noon thought "made sense". I honestly just don't understand the world where you paid attention to events that had unfolded up until then, and still asked the first part of that question. Does anyone else agree with my sentiment? I'm asking because maybe I only think the discussion, and the preceding events were easy to follow because I took part in them. Basically, you need to tie a large number of knots between cloth cut into strips. But if you mess up and tie cloth to the wrong cloth on the opposite side, you end up with an extra strip of cloth at the end, and you have to go back and fix it. How far back do you go? Just a bit back? No, you go back until you are sure it is right, to make sure you fix the problem. Same thing here. I was questioning an interpretation issue, and I started by going as far back as possible to clarify the basis. Because if the basis is at all unclear, then nothing else matters, no matter how hard you try to make things match. | ||
darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
In terms of mafia reads: I still scum read Tumblewood, and after reading Alur's argument about Kuragari (and looking at his filter), I scum read him too. Kuragari hasn't provided anything original the entire game, besides saying that I "seem to change my opinions a lot" which is pretty much false. The only substantial read I have changed on is Alur... which I have explained. Kuragari also hasn't posted any reads besides that shallow one on me at the beginning, in which he admits his selective logic is shitty. Think he could be trying to stay on the radar by not throwing out anyone's names. I'm going to read through Onegu and Trfel filters now... will post my thoughts afterwards. | ||
Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On January 28 2016 04:33 Trfel wrote: Alur, why are you scumreading Kuragari42? His initial series of posts suffered from being quite unoriginal, and his last set of posts throw flak onto Darthfoley for changing his opinions on things - and while that did occur, he was once again not the first one to bring it up. He also only stated he was "semi-suspicious" after Darth had thrown suspicion on him. But he's promised us a big post, so I'm not gonna lynch before he's had his word. Either way, I find it improbable that Darth and Kuragari are the same allignment. On a related note, Onegu does seem a little scummy to me (he very much deals in absolutes, I don't see why he'd be so standoffish as town, but once again him being rude town isn't impossible). And like Darth and Kuragi I don't see you being on a scumteam with Onegu. | ||
Kuragari42
United States346 Posts
On January 28 2016 04:56 darthfoley wrote: I've read through Alur's filter and i'm taking him off my scum list. I've liked his line of questioning/analysis of Kuragari and Trfel today, much moreso than his scum read on Shapelog last night. In terms of mafia reads: I still scum read Tumblewood, and after reading Alur's argument about Kuragari (and looking at his filter), I scum read him too. Kuragari hasn't provided anything original the entire game, besides saying that I "seem to change my opinions a lot" which is pretty much false. The only substantial read I have changed on is Alur... which I have explained. Kuragari also hasn't posted any reads besides that shallow one on me at the beginning, in which he admits his selective logic is shitty. Think he could be trying to stay on the radar by not throwing out anyone's names. My mention of you was not supposed to be a read. I don't post reads until late DP1 (at the earliest), that is my nindo. | ||
Trfel
7015 Posts
On January 28 2016 04:58 Alur wrote: It seems to me like your reasons for scumreading Kuragari42 are based on "these things don't show that he is town" instead of "these things shoe that he is scum". Is this true?His initial series of posts suffered from being quite unoriginal, and his last set of posts throw flak onto Darthfoley for changing his opinions on things - and while that did occur, he was once again not the first one to bring it up. He also only stated he was "semi-suspicious" after Darth had thrown suspicion on him. But he's promised us a big post, so I'm not gonna lynch before he's had his word. Either way, I find it improbable that Darth and Kuragari are the same allignment. On a related note, Onegu does seem a little scummy to me (he very much deals in absolutes, I don't see why he'd be so standoffish as town, but once again him being rude town isn't impossible). And like Darth and Kuragi I don't see you being on a scumteam with Onegu. Did you look at the way that Onegu has acted towards Shapelog? | ||
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