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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On January 27 2016 06:39 Onegu wrote: But serious Shape trying to meta read kush(nooninsong) before he even posts is weird as fuck. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On January 28 2016 02:26 Kuragari42 wrote: @PMT Can I get more insight into your darthy read? I find his posts semi-suspicious yet you seem to highly town read him. May I ask why you find my posts semi-suspicious? Why do you describe them as "semi-suspicious"? | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
The point about you being incapable of formulating original opinions when you entered. And instead relying on a specific read, that was introduced by another player just before you started posting. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On January 27 2016 09:23 nooniansoong wrote: What could be wifom and why is it wifom? FYI mafia doesn't know the setup but they have a better idea of it because they know each other's roles. On January 27 2016 10:01 Alur wrote: Firstly #2 states: "The mafia will be informed as to which setup is chosen, but the town will not!" So yes, the mafia does know the setup. MexicanAlien posted: To me, this post suggests that MexicanAlien was not aware of the fact that mafia knows the setup. If he was mafia, he would know that mafia knew the setup. I think, it's WIFOM because it could be a gambit to make himself seem town. Regarding being casual: Not necessarily scummy, especially early on day 1. But when I look through his filter he seems too content on just making casual conversation (for my taste), but it's only as strong as any day 1 read can be, which is a caveat that I don't feel the need to post with my every read. I was also hoping for him to defend himself. Regarding the pattern: I don't think he explained it. He talks about a bunch of stuff after #235, but I can't tell if the observations he makes are different/unrelated to the pattern he claims to have seen in #235. On January 27 2016 10:10 nooniansoong wrote: What was nooniansoong trying to say by the last quote? Alur's conclusion about _MexicanAlien wasn't very clear, because when he explained it, he said that he thinks it's WIFOM, and WIFOM isn't alignment indicative. It seems that Alur feels that _MexicanAlien is town for reasons that are partially WIFOM, but it's not completely clear. Furthermore, what is nooniansoong saying when he says that the point makes sense? Does this mean that he understands it, or agrees with it? The two are very different things.alur yeah that point about MA makes sense. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On January 28 2016 02:18 darthfoley wrote: Going to post a few reads. I can get into them specifically if someone is interested Town: Eden Shapelog MexicanAlien Scum/scum lean: Alur - refer back to my filter interactions with him. I'm not a fan of his playstyle at all so far. Tumblewood - his second meaningful post is a bunch of null reads, and a bunch of reads that scream "i'm just trying to look like i'm contributing" JesusIncarnate - first meanginful post was lazy and very shallow Need to reread filters on Peppermint, Trfel and Onegu until just now, when you changed to liking him. On January 28 2016 02:36 darthfoley wrote: I'm also liking Alur's pressure on Trfel When did that change? | ||
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Kuragari42
United States346 Posts
On January 28 2016 02:35 darthfoley wrote: Here, i'll help you Kuragari, because you've apparently forgot about the useful filter button you are so happy to have  Ah, thanks. I was merely pointing out something that had apparently been overlooked, I was not trying to be original or even give an opinion. | ||
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Kuragari42
United States346 Posts
On January 28 2016 02:37 darthfoley wrote: May I ask why you find my posts semi-suspicious? Why do you describe them as "semi-suspicious"? Your opinions seem to change often without any actual reason. Being kicked off by a teach, I will go more in-depth later. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Onegu, I'd really appreciate it if you could answer that last question when you get a chance, and yes I know I lied about only one more question. This one's actually the last one, I promise. | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On January 28 2016 02:42 Trfel wrote: Fine. Next time, please don't assume that you know everything. What was nooniansoong trying to say by the last quote? Alur's conclusion about _MexicanAlien wasn't very clear, because when he explained it, he said that he thinks it's WIFOM, and WIFOM isn't alignment indicative. It seems that Alur feels that _MexicanAlien is town for reasons that are partially WIFOM, but it's not completely clear. Furthermore, what is nooniansoong saying when he says that the point makes sense? Does this mean that he understands it, or agrees with it? The two are very different things. It's okay if you find my conclusion unclear, you are of course free to ask me to elaborate on this. But I only really made one "point" about MA. So I still can't see what other point about MA (coming from me) you might think noon thought "made sense". I honestly just don't understand the world where you paid attention to events that had unfolded up until then, and still asked the first part of that question. Does anyone else agree with my sentiment? I'm asking because maybe I only think the discussion, and the preceding events were easy to follow because I took part in them. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On January 28 2016 02:55 Trfel wrote: Off to class for most of the afternoon. Onegu, I'd really appreciate it if you could answer that last question when you get a chance, and yes I know I lied about only one more question. This one's actually the last one, I promise. I thought I already answered. It doesnt move the thread forward in a meaningful way. It doesnt make sense to do at all. There are more reasons for scum to do this than town. Dunno why I am talking to you... You are scum. @Kush Its in my filter why he is scum. He is only asking questions and giving little to no follow up on the questions he was asking. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 28 2016 02:42 Trfel wrote: Fine. Next time, please don't assume that you know everything. What was nooniansoong trying to say by the last quote? Alur's conclusion about _MexicanAlien wasn't very clear, because when he explained it, he said that he thinks it's WIFOM, and WIFOM isn't alignment indicative. It seems that Alur feels that _MexicanAlien is town for reasons that are partially WIFOM, but it's not completely clear. Furthermore, what is nooniansoong saying when he says that the point makes sense? Does this mean that he understands it, or agrees with it? The two are very different things. hi trfel. I interpreted Alur to mean the following, and I thought it made sense: MA thought you shouldn't discuss role setup because it would help scum. That could be a dumbtell. Mafia is told the setup, but town only knows mafia is told the setup if they read the rules carefully. (For instance, I did not know mafia knew the setup). But on the oher hand mafia could be wifoming you by pretending they didn'tknow. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 28 2016 03:10 Onegu wrote: @Kush Its in my filter why he is scum. He is only asking questions and giving little to no follow up on the questions he was asking. Yes, but he's doing it in a conspicuous but delibrate way. Almost like he is using this point the game to gather as much info as possible, and before EoD he will synthesize all that information into reads. If Trfel were scum, he would think to himself "I shouldn't be asking so many questions because that looks scummy." | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
Only if you are willing. I just want motives to be clearer. Top three suspects in order. If you want to include reasoning feel free. Thank you | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 28 2016 03:18 _MexicanAlien wrote: Could everyone, please, in their next post, even if they have done it already, simply state your top three mafia suspects? Only if you are willing. I just want motives to be clearer. Top three suspects in order. If you want to include reasoning feel free. Thank you 1) onegu 2) secret 3) secret | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On January 28 2016 03:18 _MexicanAlien wrote: Could everyone, please, in their next post, even if they have done it already, simply state your top three mafia suspects? Only if you are willing. I just want motives to be clearer. Top three suspects in order. If you want to include reasoning feel free. Thank you 1. Shapelog 2. Trfel 3. Onegu I need to log off for now, see you all in a couple hours. | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
I know Trfel aleady already asked, but since his questions don't carry a lot of weight atm, I'd also like you to elaborate on this. That post on it's own cant possibly be reason enough for you back off Onegu. Is this some sort of metaread? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Unknown Unknown I'm primarily scumreading Onegu because he doesn't seem interested in finding scum but instead appearing useful. The biggest example of this is his Shapelog read, which he has made a ton of comments about, but he doesn't seem to actually be caring about it. As in, his comments about Shapelog don't flow, they don't seem to be a town progression that attempts to find someones alignment. But I need to check again when I am on a computer. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 27 2016 22:17 JesusIncarnate wrote: lol people like eden are falling for the simple mafia strat for noobs "I will act stupid and hope people townread me" Here he is assuming Eden is town, yet he also says: Eden is up in the air for me. trfel seems pretty town to me. other people i honestly dont care about. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On January 28 2016 03:29 Trfel wrote: Onegu Unknown Unknown I'm primarily scumreading Onegu because he doesn't seem interested in finding scum but instead appearing useful. The biggest example of this is his Shapelog read, which he has made a ton of comments about, but he doesn't seem to actually be caring about it. As in, his comments about Shapelog don't flow, they don't seem to be a town progression that attempts to find someones alignment. But I need to check again when I am on a computer. I found scum. You. You are misrepresenting me. | ||
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