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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 22:06 GMT
#1801
K gonna finish catching up so I have all the info
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 22:08 GMT
#1802
On January 22 2016 07:06 Keirathi wrote:
There's a small flaw in the plan to figure out who artorius is using the kitaman role: it might not be able to be busdriven, but it can certainly be roleblocked.

If Alot did actually pick kitaman, there are a couple of scenarios:

1) He's town. Someone on one of the mafia teams picked artorias. If they have any way to roleblock him they probably will? I don't think anyone took Yu for the anti-roleblock, right?

2) He's mafia WITH Artorias. He can just claim he was roleblocked forever.

3) He's mafia on the other mafia Team. Probably the best case scenario, becuase it has the lowest chance of being roleblocked, and if it isn't roleblocked he doesn't have any reason to keep the result to himself.

Yep. So let's just say trackers should track roleblockers / watchers should watch alot. No more precision, there cannot be a million busdrivers.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 21 2016 22:09 GMT
#1803
On January 22 2016 07:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 07:06 Keirathi wrote:
There's a small flaw in the plan to figure out who artorius is using the kitaman role: it might not be able to be busdriven, but it can certainly be roleblocked.

If Alot did actually pick kitaman, there are a couple of scenarios:

1) He's town. Someone on one of the mafia teams picked artorias. If they have any way to roleblock him they probably will? I don't think anyone took Yu for the anti-roleblock, right?

2) He's mafia WITH Artorias. He can just claim he was roleblocked forever.

3) He's mafia on the other mafia Team. Probably the best case scenario, becuase it has the lowest chance of being roleblocked, and if it isn't roleblocked he doesn't have any reason to keep the result to himself.

Yep. So let's just say trackers should track roleblockers / watchers should watch alot. No more precision, there cannot be a million busdrivers.


Nah I think this is a trap. We shouldn't put our eggs in a basket that is very very likely to be mafia.
Minimal effort.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 21 2016 22:09 GMT
#1804
Oh wait herp derp. Only the mafia team WITH Artorias would want to roleblock him even if he's town. That was a derpy point. So 1) and 3) are basically equal
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 21 2016 22:10 GMT
#1805
Though if Artorias is on mafia team A and alot is on mafia team B, mafia might kill him for us. :D
Minimal effort.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 22:11 GMT
#1806
On January 22 2016 07:09 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 07:08 Rels wrote:
On January 22 2016 07:06 Keirathi wrote:
There's a small flaw in the plan to figure out who artorius is using the kitaman role: it might not be able to be busdriven, but it can certainly be roleblocked.

If Alot did actually pick kitaman, there are a couple of scenarios:

1) He's town. Someone on one of the mafia teams picked artorias. If they have any way to roleblock him they probably will? I don't think anyone took Yu for the anti-roleblock, right?

2) He's mafia WITH Artorias. He can just claim he was roleblocked forever.

3) He's mafia on the other mafia Team. Probably the best case scenario, becuase it has the lowest chance of being roleblocked, and if it isn't roleblocked he doesn't have any reason to keep the result to himself.

Yep. So let's just say trackers should track roleblockers / watchers should watch alot. No more precision, there cannot be a million busdrivers.


Nah I think this is a trap. We shouldn't put our eggs in a basket that is very very likely to be mafia.

True.
We can simply avoid the guy by just sticking to the lynch and not shennannie (until a point anyway).
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2016 22:15 GMT
#1807
On January 22 2016 06:18 Keirathi wrote:
Kita: What do you think about geript?


He is in the lower half of my trust list at the moment so I could definitely see him flipping mafia, though outside my top 5 scum reads.

I think his take on Rels wasn't very good because he is one of the few people that seems to be actually doing something.

On January 21 2016 16:56 geript wrote:
And I think I might be wrong about Breshke. In looking at my notes and reviewing his filter, he's not really hitting the marks I thought he was.


lol another guy "looking at his notes". I'd be interested to see what he actually had in his notes on Breshke because this post seems pretty random/made up.

On January 21 2016 04:23 geript wrote:
He's focusing on this plan (which is NAI) but he's not really doing anything effective with it. Like Superbia's kinda run off with that. It's just more an exercise to get people avoiding having to talk about reads. Especially when the core of the pick plan really is to also discuss who we don't trust and why.


I actually have a problem with the way that geript chose to go after Palmar. I think Palmar is mafia because of the way he completely overreacted to my additions to the plan and his decision to paint me as mafia based on that post. geript's line of reasoning here seems to be that he says Palmar was avoiding making reads with the plan, but if you looked closely, Palmar's role assignments were all based on his level of trust of players that he had mentioned earlier. It seems like geript isn't really reading things in detail.

I think Link is a really good town role though so I wouldn't consider doing anything with him until at least day three. If he shows up with excuses about how he wasn't able to pull off the n1 watch or n2 double scum kp block, then I'd go after him. Even if he does do the n2 block, that part doesn't make him automatically town.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 22:17 GMT
#1808
On January 22 2016 06:16 Tictock wrote:
While I don't exactly approve of the mass claiming, I will admit it is kinda useful.

So thanks for that Kita.

I did exactly that earlier. You know because you've quoted it:
On January 22 2016 04:42 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 20:36 Rels wrote:
OK caught up. First thing (shamelessly stolen from disfo + completed):

+ Show Spoiler [role list] +

1. Keirathi - house
2. Superbia - CPR doc
3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella
4. Rels - Captain Malcolm
5. Palmar - arrow
6. geript - link
7. Breshke - holmes
8. Koshi - Werner von braun
9. Cephiro - dreamflower
10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist
11. Vivax - ???
12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???)
13. disformation - Watson
14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty
15. Damdred - doc
16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27
17. VayneAuthority - hero
18. The Shining - TTV
19. Onegu - ???
20. Sicklucker - ???
21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???)
22. GlowingBear - Flowey


Copcake said she was randomed a role so I assume it means she got a mysterious challenger.

If your role was stolen you need to claim it now. If you claim that after D1 we will lynch you first to check.

These person need to claim what role they got:
11. Vivax - ???
12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???)
19. Onegu - ???
20. Sicklucker - ???
21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???)


Lynch me today if all you care about is what my role is.

Why did my list not get that kind of reaction ?
AlotSomuch
Profile Joined January 2016
95 Posts
January 21 2016 22:18 GMT
#1809
On January 22 2016 06:32 kitaman27 wrote:
With there being 8 mafia, AlotSomuch probably has to be one of them.

Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:40 AlotSomuch wrote:
I don't really mind being assigned a role. Apparently Vayne thought I was scummy and knocked me down from number 11 to 16...so...well done Vayne?


I mentioned it earlier, but this really has to be one of the scummiest posts in the game. Scum are always ultra aware of who suspects them and he brings it up as a....compliment? Like what is the point about even mentioning Vayne here? On top of that he is being really complacent during the first 48 hours, essentially asking to be assigned a role while providing no input himself.

The case Rels posted earlier pretty much reflects what I've been saying/thinking here.

He mentions that we shouldn't lynch him because he has an investigative role? lol everyone has some type of role. Saying that he is going to wait until after n1 until the player list is smaller seems like he isn't interested in putting in the effort to figure things out. The mafia to town ratio is really high, so it shouldn't be impossible to find one or two, especially with the 96 hour day one.

I'd say lynch between him and Vivax....whichever contributes less over the next day or so.


That was sarcasm. Vayne had posted that he was going to try and snipe someone he read as scum. He apparently read me as scum off two posts, one of which was admittedly not great. It was a sarcastic congratulations on moving me down 5 or 6 spots. I was TOLD I was going to be assigned a role by the guy organizing everything, which I didn't have a problem with and went along with. I just wanted to be told what role, so if I had any huge objections I had time to argue against it. I didn't have any issue with the role. I've said multiple times I won't have much input for your on the glorified Night 0 before the game actually started, haven't changed my story on that. I didn't say I shouldn't be lynched. I said I seemed like a weird choice for a day 1 lynch before there is even a chance to use the role I was assigned, which is a one use only anyway.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 22:21 GMT
#1810
On January 22 2016 07:18 AlotSomuch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 06:32 kitaman27 wrote:
With there being 8 mafia, AlotSomuch probably has to be one of them.

On January 20 2016 09:40 AlotSomuch wrote:
I don't really mind being assigned a role. Apparently Vayne thought I was scummy and knocked me down from number 11 to 16...so...well done Vayne?


I mentioned it earlier, but this really has to be one of the scummiest posts in the game. Scum are always ultra aware of who suspects them and he brings it up as a....compliment? Like what is the point about even mentioning Vayne here? On top of that he is being really complacent during the first 48 hours, essentially asking to be assigned a role while providing no input himself.

The case Rels posted earlier pretty much reflects what I've been saying/thinking here.

He mentions that we shouldn't lynch him because he has an investigative role? lol everyone has some type of role. Saying that he is going to wait until after n1 until the player list is smaller seems like he isn't interested in putting in the effort to figure things out. The mafia to town ratio is really high, so it shouldn't be impossible to find one or two, especially with the 96 hour day one.

I'd say lynch between him and Vivax....whichever contributes less over the next day or so.


That was sarcasm. Vayne had posted that he was going to try and snipe someone he read as scum. He apparently read me as scum off two posts, one of which was admittedly not great. It was a sarcastic congratulations on moving me down 5 or 6 spots. I was TOLD I was going to be assigned a role by the guy organizing everything, which I didn't have a problem with and went along with. I just wanted to be told what role, so if I had any huge objections I had time to argue against it. I didn't have any issue with the role. I've said multiple times I won't have much input for your on the glorified Night 0 before the game actually started, haven't changed my story on that. I didn't say I shouldn't be lynched. I said I seemed like a weird choice for a day 1 lynch before there is even a chance to use the role I was assigned, which is a one use only anyway.

Did you read the whole thread ?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 21 2016 22:22 GMT
#1811
On January 22 2016 07:18 AlotSomuch wrote:
I didn't say I shouldn't be lynched.


Err....?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 21 2016 22:24 GMT
#1812
Oh yeah. I think I have to be saved every night btw. I haven't done the exact math, but we're 14 vs 8 and it's 4 kp n1, 2kp following nights. Mafia is against each other so a little bit of balance there, but it's essentially going to be 1 lynch vs 1 1/2 (and that's optimistic) kp. I think we'll need the town KP for sure.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 21 2016 22:24 GMT
#1813
Ok alot.
Minimal effort.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
January 21 2016 22:25 GMT
#1814
Caught up with the few pages

I said yesterday I got a random role because I wasn't able to pick

I am in the list of the smash bros thing
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 22:25 GMT
#1815
TT, alot, waiting for you.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 22:26 GMT
#1816
busdrivers are fucking annoying
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 21 2016 22:28 GMT
#1817
As long as artorias is in the game we need to keep our night actions a bit vague/hidden.
Minimal effort.
AlotSomuch
Profile Joined January 2016
95 Posts
January 21 2016 22:28 GMT
#1818
Oh. No I hadn't caught up all the way yet. My understanding of my role is it is a one use, cannot be bus-driven, if I pick abysswalker I will be told who has the role unless I am killed or roleblocked. So a watcher on me would net us a scum in any situation, wouldn't it?
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 21 2016 22:30 GMT
#1819
Hosts, can you confirm if you just missed my vote or if it's not really counting?

Also love all the flower talk, keep it up. One can always dream.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 21 2016 22:30 GMT
#1820
On January 22 2016 07:28 AlotSomuch wrote:
Oh. No I hadn't caught up all the way yet. My understanding of my role is it is a one use, cannot be bus-driven, if I pick abysswalker I will be told who has the role unless I am killed or roleblocked. So a watcher on me would net us a scum in any situation, wouldn't it?


I kind of like this post. I don't think it makes him town, but it makes me believe artorias is on the other team at least.
Minimal effort.
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