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On January 21 2016 21:39 Koshi wrote: I have never been in a game with less info than this one. That's because you're a flower. Yep, cannot use curse words anymore. Like for example I've thought of something: Damdred is 99% town. He had the opportunity to pick Nigella at the end of the role pick phase, when OWS finally accepted to let him pick that: but he agreed to pick doc, when doc is a super bad role for scum 'cause if they heal a townie, they have a chance to die instantly. On the other hand, Nigella might not be super strong in scum's hands, but it's way better than doc. | ||
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On January 21 2016 17:56 Palmar wrote: I just read disformation's filter and I have little idea what his alignment is. Some times he sounds a bit fake tonally, but he did pick a sweet role for town, and he is actually putting in management work through getting the role list nailed down so meh. I liked his "trust issues" comment on me, and I didn't mind his early townread on TT. Then he had some tonally weird things like the lemon-tree comment about TT in his list, which unless that's some kind of an inside joke, it feels like a very weird thing to call people. I think the conclusion is I have no real interest in lynching him today. I want more hard reads from him though. If his filter had a few decently constructed reads in it I'd feel a lot more comfortable. I think he'd be a pretty good check. Also his reaction to the scumreads was maybe a bit over the top. Not sure if it's genuine to care so much about a few shitty "maybe scum" reads. Unless he thinks he has played townie enough to warrant a universal townread or something. Lemon-tree is my new name for my "wtf banana boat" or simpy "bananaboat" read category. Which stands for people I can't read or otherwise have a very hard time reaching a conclusion on. Similar to how you null read me. I have used the bananaboat read category as both alignments before (nsm 17 and dark tournament). Why lemon tree? Cause yellow. Duh. If you have a problem with these names, imma channel my inner ritoky. + Show Spoiler + Some random ass reads: The Shining Like his posts today. Town. Vivax Me no like. How is his meta? Like does he prefer one of the alignments over the other? Is activity alignment indicative for him? GB I think I saw a post or two of him I did like. Need to read filter. kitaman27 Yeah, he had a lot of NAI posts bout setup, but most of his comments/suggestions made sense to me, so not sure here. Probably should read filter. Damdy Not sold, but probably not a good lunch today. copcake Lemon-tree. TT Lemon-tree. Also just remembered that I wanted to look at Breshke. On January 21 2016 20:25 Koshi wrote: I understand now what I need to do. ##unvote ##vote VayneAuthority In Vayne we trust. Koshi can you explain this to me? Like if he really has that hero role, wouldn't alignment checking/tracking/maybe if you really think he is scum, shooting him be better? Any questions? Otherwise I'll look at more pps and find the scum. | ||
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I don't want to do Onegu at all because I usually don't enjoy reading his filters. Alot, maybe later. | ||
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Wasn't he also here earlier and gtfoed? On January 21 2016 19:33 Vivax wrote: I got quite the pro town role. Breakfast time :> On January 21 2016 19:46 Vivax wrote: Koshi is there anyone in this game you really want dead. On January 21 2016 19:47 Vivax wrote: More of a rhetorical question Yeah, pretty much. Can anyone answer my meta questions on him? | ||
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All that matters is that Vivax had no intention all that matters is he had nothing to say on day 1, yet his only meaningful contribution was to take the piss out of any attempt at organizing. This means he is mafia. Not because only scum would be skeptical of any organization, but because townies would probably be looking for something else to do. It's the difference in mindset of I'm expecting townies to want to do something, even if it's stupid. Vivax used the planning that was meant to be happening as an excuse to post. He is always going to be mafia. There is no meta that matters. All that matters is that Vivax had no intention Bold prediction: Kita and Vivax are in fact scummates. Based on this: On January 20 2016 20:28 Vivax wrote: Ofc I stole kita's thunder by picking his number cause I think he's mafia (saying I don't do anything about number claiming is pretty stupid cause giving my opinion on it is already "doing something" and I had good reason not to partake in that plan where mafia has all the numbers nicely presented for their team to coordinate. On January 20 2016 22:41 Vivax wrote: I'm fine with bringing kita down in the selection but I also wanted a piece of the cake. On January 20 2016 03:36 kitaman27 wrote: Vivax was the first person that I picked out as mafia too. Shows up to complain about something, but doesn't do anything about it. On January 20 2016 09:20 kitaman27 wrote: Since this seems to happen every game, making a post game bet with myself that at least two scum buddies picked the same number to try to throw us off :D | ||
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1. He doesn't care about the game and is just going along. Scum will either do this to not attract attention, or they will try to subtly manipulate town to gain an advantage. Alot is doing the former. Here is what I'm talking about: + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2016 03:05 AlotSomuch wrote: I have arrived. Skimmed through everything, tried to take note of non-mechanics discussion and failed for the most part, so no reads at this point, especially considering I know like none of you. Such is life. I put in for number 7 last night when I got my PM, which I think someone said they Might be going for but could go for a different one? On January 20 2016 03:12 AlotSomuch wrote: Guess I'll take 11.1 then. On January 20 2016 09:52 AlotSomuch wrote: I picked 11.1, just like I said I would. On January 21 2016 01:02 AlotSomuch wrote: Let me know what role to pick. [...] Just here for role madness fun and to shake off the rust. On January 21 2016 04:50 AlotSomuch wrote: I'm fine with Kitaman27. /approved On January 21 2016 09:43 AlotSomuch wrote: I successfully got my assigned role. Going out for happy hour drinks, be back later. Absolutely no involvement in town's plan. I can understand this for the number picking stuff (just picking the next free number), but he also doesn't care about what role he gets. It's not a role he chose, it an "assigned" role, like he himself call it. 2. He got his number ninja'd by VA, but he doesn't care about it Here is his reaction: On January 20 2016 09:40 AlotSomuch wrote: I don't really mind being assigned a role. Apparently Vayne thought I was scummy and knocked me down from number 11 to 16...so...well done Vayne? Then nothing. No trying to know why VA did it, no trying to see if VA is scum targetting an easy target, or if he's town targetting his scumread. 3. Excuses. Scum love them excuses. On January 20 2016 03:05 AlotSomuch wrote: I have arrived. Skimmed through everything, tried to take note of non-mechanics discussion and failed for the most part, so no reads at this point, especially considering I know like none of you. Such is life. I put in for number 7 last night when I got my PM, which I think someone said they Might be going for but could go for a different one? On January 21 2016 01:02 AlotSomuch wrote: Let me know what role to pick. I'm at work but have internet access all through the day, just won't be on every minute. I'm not going to be a high volume poster and I have trouble telling alot of you apart right now, as the names just blur together on my readthroughs. I also don't have much experience with multiple mafia teams, especially at such a high ratio, so like someone said, I'm assuming for 1/3 posters is posting with mafia motivation. I admit I don't have much to contribute at this point since I don't have any ideas which people are being difficult for reasons and which are doing it because they are stubborn/really just want to be a certain role. Just here for role madness fun and to shake off the rust. 4. The famous scum defense On January 21 2016 12:59 AlotSomuch wrote: Yes I have not been an active poster, but others have done the same with less content and/or actually been scummy. [...] I don't expect a townread on me, but to actually suggest trying to lynch me day1 when I have an investigative role that can be used as directed tonight or later and with there being much shakier people seems odd and suspicious. I have no comments about the role picking and such, but while I think Kitoman's points about using the extra investigative roles were good, the tone I got off his responses struck me as non-town. Dunno. WHY AM I BEING SCUMREAD WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING THE SAME THING LOOK AT THEM THEY ARE BEING SCUMMY TOO He doesn't name who he's talking about. Then he says kita might be scum; if kita is scum, it's obviously not for behaving like AlotSomuch. AlotSoMuch: who are you talking about when you say "others have done the same with less content and/or actually been scummy." ? | ||
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On January 20 2016 00:58 kitaman27 wrote: Well based on the pick order, you basically have an idea of what every single player picked by day one. Essentially claiming the numbers reduces the odds of overlap, while mafia knows what each other is picking so they can avoid it already. Like a few games ago, like 6 players chose [9] or something stupid like that. What's the disadvantage Vivax? On January 20 2016 01:26 Vivax wrote: You dont know if its truthful what anyone claims and if it is then mafia can pretty much pick the sweet numbers to at least have 1 of their members pick first, I think. On January 20 2016 03:36 kitaman27 wrote: Vivax was the first person that I picked out as mafia too. Shows up to complain about something, but doesn't do anything about it. The point here is: Vivax posts something Kita sees a reason to reply to. Notice however that in Kita's initial reply he doesn't call Vivax mafia at all. Then Vivax responds with basically nothing and some time passes. I come to the thread and call Vivax mafia and Kita immediately agrees with me, but using the weird phrasing "Vivax was the first person that I picked out as mafia too". However Kita had not bothered to mention this scum read until I started talking about it. And yet, when he explains the Vivax read (he explains it more later), it is for precisely the reasons that I called Vivax mafia. Now Kita thinks I'm mafia, so I guess there also exists a scenario where he thinks Vivax and I are both mafia from different families, that is, if he hasn't forgotten about his vivax scumread. But Kita did two extremely scummy things here: a) Fail to mention a scumread, yet claim to have already had it, this is despite actually interacting with his scumread. b) Call me mafia, when his claimed thought process for scumreading Vivax was EXACTLY, like LITERALLY EXACTLY the same as mine, which means he should be thinking that I'm reaching these conclusions naturally. | ||
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On January 20 2016 00:55 Vivax wrote: Picking 1 1, obviously a lie. Obviously the truth. Pretty much sums up why this shitty number claiming strat won't do jack. Where he basically started to being all pissy and angry, when stuff started to get organized. Happy to put my vote on him. | ||
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Vote Count - Day 1 GlowingBear (1): ObiWanShinobi kitaman27 (1): Palmar VayneAuthority (1): Koshi Cephiro (0): Not Voting (19): disformation, kitaman27, Rels, Onegu, Keirathi, GlowingBear, Damdred, Tictock, Breshke, ALotSoMuch, Superbia, VayneAuthority, The Shining, Fecalfeast, sicklucker, Cephiro, geript, Vivax, Copcake At this time, no one is slated to be lynched. With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch. Day 1 ends in on 00:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted. | ||
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I don't believe Kita had the scumread on Vivax until I pointed it out, because it's so simple that he would have mentioned it. I think he just tried to revise history with his "vivax was one of the first I picked out as mafia" line of posting in order to make himself look good. | ||
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Will read Vivax filter then see what you wrote. | ||
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On January 21 2016 22:21 Rels wrote: Palmar, kita is never mafia with the amount of organizing he's done (tier list + completing your plan). And if he is, he's getting killed anyway. Will read Vivax filter then see what you wrote. Hello Rels You are wrong. In addition to what I said, there is no way he thinks I'm mafia based on the bullshit case he posted last night. There is literally no way I believe Kita believes his own case. | ||
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