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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:19 Palmar wrote: Also CPR doc is not a strictly town role. It's fantastic for mafia ))) Obviously I was talking about after I decided to let Superbia pick CPR. For the last ~12 hours I've been saying I was going to take one of Link, House, or Moriarty. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The last thing I want to do is wreck this game by going maverick. you dont have to go maverick but you could levege someone into taking there pick. you are above them on the list... | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Unless mafia is already given roles that are really good, in which case they have no reason to hide/mess around with roles anyway because duh. How on earth did Damdred get Nigella? no one bothered to read the hard explanation of nig. its rly good | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
Also I understand kei's frustration not sure it is alignment indicative though Kind of bothers me that rels was all ancy about me picking watson because he thought i was scum then Palmar tells me to pick holmes and he is fine with that plan although still thinks im scum. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:09 Superbia wrote: Why are we giving shining a KP role..? its not a very good kp role and he agreed to shot with the consensus | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
I'm working 18 hour days because people quit. I've already said I'm being lazy today and trying to figure out what I picked. I didn't read any of the game from that point until I posted again and saw kitas plan and his suggestion for a role for me was a good one. A trade for mafia early is always good. Now if the bumbling morons in thread can say why I'm more blah than others especially when half the fucking game knows I've been off my rocker wanting to ducking roll scum for the past 10 games. So fuck you guys if you think id be so half ass as scum, like really go sit on it and rotate. I'll ser you after deadline and if anyone counterpucks me and I somehow get a decent mysterious role in coming for you and will make life hell no matter what my read is on you. Because I will fuck you up. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:21 Palmar wrote: Palmar's list of mafia people that sound like mafia all the time: Kitaman Cephiro Keirathi Vivax Glowingbear Then there's some meh people that might be mafia too: Onegu disformation ticktock Alotsomuch That's 9 people, there's probably some mafia in there. wow such reads. On January 21 2016 08:25 The Shining wrote: Outside of kita and Ceph(your interaction with him gave me town v town vibes), this actually doesn't look bad. Why kita? I know you had some disagreement over the role assignments but he's arguably doing the most work with it besides you. Were do all these weak ass scum reads on me come from? "I don't like his tone..." "I think I read like a post I didn't like..." "He is meh..." Can you at least throw me a decent reason? | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:33 Damdred wrote: Not exactly sure what the big deal is about me. I'm working 18 hour days because people quit. I've already said I'm being lazy today and trying to figure out what I picked. I didn't read any of the game from that point until I posted again and saw kitas plan and his suggestion for a role for me was a good one. A trade for mafia early is always good. Now if the bumbling morons in thread can say why I'm more blah than others especially when half the fucking game knows I've been off my rocker wanting to ducking roll scum for the past 10 games. So fuck you guys if you think id be so half ass as scum, like really go sit on it and rotate. I'll ser you after deadline and if anyone counterpucks me and I somehow get a decent mysterious role in coming for you and will make life hell no matter what my read is on you. Because I will fuck you up. I took your role and threatening me isn't going to change anything. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:23 Palmar wrote: geript being afk is also annoying. mehhhh why do I even bother. *sigh* I know. I already brought it up. Any issue with that or nah? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Yay or nay? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
I allowed myself to be dicked around by ff because it was the date I got married on, but I won't be dicked around because I'm not able to be here when I am legit one of the stronger town players I. The game and these fear reads on me are pathetic | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:30 Keirathi wrote: Obviously I was talking about after I decided to let Superbia pick CPR. For the last ~12 hours I've been saying I was going to take one of Link, House, or Moriarty. Its gonna suck having to lynch house | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: The reason is quite simple. If we assign everyone roles, mafia can just freely pick a role that wasn't assigned to them. The entire point of having ffa/check players is for them to take roles that SHOULD have been taken before them to PROVE the players before them actually took the roles they were meant to take. It's a failsafe. Let me show you why this is so, so, so wrong. Palmar's plan: Koshi, damdred, and kitaman27 are free for all picks that are instructed to pick a role above them in the list to PROVE the players above us actually take a role that they want. Result: Koshi, damdred, and kitaman27 wind up as Mysterious challengers because they were idiotic enough to pick a role that was already selected. BUT AT LEAST WE VERIFIED 3 PICKS, RIGHT GUYS? Kita's plan: Koshi picks his assigned power role damdred picks his assigned power role kita picks his assigned power role Result: Between those three roles we now have 1x watcher 2x tracker 2x protection 1x nuke 1x secondary lynch 1x parity cop 1x alignment cop So what's more important, all those abilities or verifying that 3 people above us took the roles they promised (which has no alignment indicative information. Even if a player takes their assigned role, they still could be mafia) On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: If we have no failssafes, mafia can just pick whatever the fuck they want. Essentially, my plan is pointless. No they really can't. For a mafia player to "pick whatever they want", that means that the role can't already have been chosen by another player. If they pick above another player, then they are denying the player below, that player claims and we have a combination of role checks, the kitaman27 role, and trackers to figure out who it was. So that leaves the list of roles that go unpicked. They're almost all trash: Hero - Picked by VA anyways Puppeteer - Useless for mafia Dimensional Lemming - Useless for mafia Speaker for the Dead - Useless for mafia Artanis - Useless for mafia GreYMisT - Useless for mafia because it only delays things for 12 hours. Janitor - 1 shot use and can't be used on the lynch. Not a high priority Copycat - Not a priority Tommy the Fireman - Okay mafia role, but not a Psy - If he uses his ability, it confirms he is in the game and we get him by role check, track or kitaman27 Alchemist - A delayed 1 shot vig? meh I suppose it is useful for mafia, but not a huge priority pick to justify breaking the plan Yu Narukami - Kinda useful role, but I suggested that it be picked in my post so it wouldn't be open Knight Artorias - Strong mafia role Essentially there is one mafia role that is worth grabbing and we have sicklucker's honest check on that one. Furthermore, since all role selections are basically public, you are responsible for your actions. Say the tracker decides that they are going to "undermine" your plan and grab a different role. They still gotta say who they visited each night, their tracker results etc. So essentially lie each night about their action. It's not worth the mafia risk. On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: I basically can't be arsed arguing this, I am out of energy trying to get people to be not stupid. Kita is very likely mafia because he's not dumb enough to think his version is an actual improvement. On January 21 2016 07:21 Palmar wrote: Kita's additions completely undermine my plan. The fact that you're trying to take my clearly superior plan and justify it as a reason that I'm mafia is preposterous. Earlier in the game you mentioned that town's objective is to maximize the amount of blue roles we get. Yet here you are pushing a plan where there players are doing "honest checks". When I edit your plan to maximize the blue roles it makes me scum? That's laughable. Palmar is mafia | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:39 Damdred wrote: I 100% am using whatever negative ability I get on obi no matter what now and the only way to stop me is to lynch me d1. I allowed myself to be dicked around by ff because it was the date I got married on, but I won't be dicked around because I'm not able to be here when I am legit one of the stronger town players I. The game and these fear reads on me are pathetic Okay, so we'll just lynch you day 1 then. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote: Nope I have my role picked in either lynch me or suffer the consequences for the fear mongering Damd why'd you want Nigella Lawson? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On January 21 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote: Nope I have my role picked in either lynch me or suffer the consequences for the fear mongering "Fear mongering." You've done precisely nothing so this argument is laughable. | ||
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