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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 20 2016 20:22 GMT
#1141
aw palmar watson doesn't have a gun
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:22 GMT
#1142
On January 21 2016 05:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:20 sicklucker wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.


blocking mafia roles is pointless. I think the best strategy is for towns to get all the good protective/inv roles. That way we can let the mafia kill each other since they dont know who the other mafias are anyway. So i think vets/invg roles are best for town probably

maybe. Problem is town might protect mafia and mafia only protects mafia.

even that's okay for us.

As town, we want the game to go as long as possible. Town controls the lynches, mafia controls the NKs.
Computer says mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 20:23 GMT
#1143
On January 21 2016 05:21 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:20 sicklucker wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.


blocking mafia roles is pointless. I think the best strategy is for towns to get all the good protective/inv roles. That way we can let the mafia kill each other since they dont know who the other mafias are anyway. So i think vets/invg roles are best for town probably

maybe. Problem is town might protect mafia and mafia only protects mafia.


which is why im mostly prioritizing trackers/inv type stuff. but if towns have doctors mafia will get paranoid and go off the board
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:23 GMT
#1144
On January 21 2016 05:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:21 Palmar wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:20 Koshi wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:19 Palmar wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.

This is what the "check/ffa" players are for.

If you think someone above you is likely to be mafia, then you pick the role assigned to him. If you actually get the role, then you know whoever was assigned to pick it didn't follow through on his pick. This is where you yell.

"wtf did you pick bro, cause I picked your role and got it... what are you hiding??".

But you didn't assign the pro mafia roles at all... Or did you tell all people at the bottom to pick pro mafia roles? I didn't read them tbh.

no, that's the point.

if you think for example rels is mafia, you pick captain malcolm.

if you actually GET captain malcolm, you KNOW rels didn't pick it, and thus he must have picked something else. It's irrelevant what he picked really, the important part is he refused to take a strong town role for some reason.

ah now I understand. But what about the mafias that are at the bottom?


Sicklucker is our last line of defense. if copcake/gb are mafia we're just gonna have to figure it out the old fashioned way.
Computer says mafia
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 20 2016 20:23 GMT
#1145
On January 21 2016 05:16 Palmar wrote:
I'm not gonna respond to ceph because he is mafia. There is no way he simply tries to tear everything I do down without either:

a) Actually calling me mafia

or

b) providing an alternative that's useful himself.

And if you're so sure everything I'm doing is dumb and you're awesome ceph, just pick the goddamn role I assigned to you and go be awesome!


I'm going to respond to you anyway so everyone can enjoy your blissful ignorance of posts you can't reply to.

I'm pointing out inconsistencies that would be good to fix if you truly want to try and make a pro-town plan, and your reaction is to ignore it?

A lot of the points I raised are extremely valid, yet you are ignoring them because you're tunneling me as scum, if it's because you've suddenly become terrible at mafia or simply because it's the easiest way for you to try and deal with me if you're scum, that I'm not sure of. Leaning more and more towards you being mafia simply since you refuse to address the points I raise when fixing them up is clearly the pro-town thing to do and is what you should be doing.

If you want to be a town leader, then suck it up and take the criticism. Just because you're trying to assume a leader position doesn't mean you get to decide everything you want. If you're pro-town, you should be concerned and fixing the issues pointed out at you.

I'm not raising these points because I want to be a dick or claim that your play sucks, but because those are the things that need to be addressed. If you want brownie points for every thing that was done properly as one going for the position you currently are, you'll have to find them somewhere else.

So again, repeating these:

1) Why are you wanting to give someone you suspect a veteran status?

2) Explain why you're not locking one of your scumreads into the City Councilman, and instead assigning it to a player who you don't have pegged as either way, and you talk coming from the perspective "at least this way if he's town he'll get killed"?

3) Doctor role to someone you're not sure of?

4) No counterpicks for roles like Hero or PSY?

Address the above please. It's not that hard.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2016 20:23 GMT
#1146
It doesn't really matter tbh. imo it is better to let people take pro mafia roles and then if they end up they are vanilla and should look for the people who took the role. Taking the good town roles due to paranoia just leads townies being vanilla and no real way to figure out who actually took the pro mafia role.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:24 GMT
#1147
On January 21 2016 05:23 Koshi wrote:
It doesn't really matter tbh. imo it is better to let people take pro mafia roles and then if they end up they are vanilla and should look for the people who took the role. Taking the good town roles due to paranoia just leads townies being vanilla and no real way to figure out who actually took the pro mafia role.

If people follow my list it's easy as fuck to figure out who took pro mafia roles.
Computer says mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 20:24 GMT
#1148
off the board = more likely to be mafia. Like if we dont have doctors me/rels/super/palmer are dead night one. but if we have doctors people like random unread people like gb/copcake might be killed. and they might be mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2016 20:24 GMT
#1149
but I didn't do shit today so I am not going to argue too much. This way just feels bad compared to the way I suggest.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2016 20:25 GMT
#1150
On January 21 2016 05:24 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:23 Koshi wrote:
It doesn't really matter tbh. imo it is better to let people take pro mafia roles and then if they end up they are vanilla and should look for the people who took the role. Taking the good town roles due to paranoia just leads townies being vanilla and no real way to figure out who actually took the pro mafia role.

If people follow my list it's easy as fuck to figure out who took pro mafia roles.

Hmm. I'll don't want to pick a role above me and be vanilla though. Fuck that.
I had a good night of sleep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 20 2016 20:26 GMT
#1151
On January 21 2016 05:20 Palmar wrote:
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On January 21 2016 05:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
well yea obviously you get autolynched if you pick something like janitor. But narukimi is very useful as a town role too, just especially powerful as scum. I would take it but I doubt a mafia before me doesnt take it.

See, if I townread you (like I do sicklucker) I'd be okay with you taking it. But because I don't, I don't want you to take it.

Shining could take it too imo.


If you townread me I would instantly call you mafia as the game hasn't even started yet. Noted that I should yell in caps more and be extremely passive aggressive to get townread by you though
I come in for the scraps
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 20 2016 20:27 GMT
#1152
There is no such thing as vanilla in this game, how come there are people who don't get it by now?
If you pick the same thing someone else already picked, you get one of the Mysterious Challenger roles, which effectively forces you into a "special" role.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
January 20 2016 20:27 GMT
#1153
I won't be able to really catch up until i get to work in an hour and a half was there anything I was asked in the 200+ posts I skimmed?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 20:27 GMT
#1154
anyway i like palmars list. very few kp roles on it. i like that the strong mafia roles are not mentioned we dont want them taken.. like why remind them and say tits ok?Its not like its smart to block pick them we lose a good town role and kp roles are just as likely to target the third faction team for us
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2016 20:27 GMT
#1155
On January 21 2016 05:27 Cephiro wrote:
There is no such thing as vanilla in this game, how come there are people who don't get it by now?
If you pick the same thing someone else already picked, you get one of the Mysterious Challenger roles, which effectively forces you into a "special" role.

MC is worse than vanilla.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:28 GMT
#1156
On January 21 2016 05:23 Cephiro wrote:
1) Why are you wanting to give someone you suspect a veteran status?

2) Explain why you're not locking one of your scumreads into the City Councilman, and instead assigning it to a player who you don't have pegged as either way, and you talk coming from the perspective "at least this way if he's town he'll get killed"?

3) Doctor role to someone you're not sure of?

4) No counterpicks for roles like Hero or PSY?

Address the above please. It's not that hard.


Because I'm nice:

1) because almost every town kill is going to be a lynch. I'm giving him an investigative role to use wisely... hopefully.

2) This is a decent point, but Onegu is actually likely to be mafia. I want him to take this role because he is one of the most unreadable player in the game.

3) Doctor is a relatively weak almost only pro-town role. Notice flowey (if I understood it) is also a doctor-like role and so is the JK, I gave all of those to possible mafia because better they have protections than kp. The point is, I want to lynch a lot of mafia.

4) I think town is better off without those roles in the game. We have ffa/check players, the kitaman role, and Ezeio to deal with mafia taking strong mafia roles. IF people follow my plan, it will be easy to spot the mafia who took a strong mafia role.
Computer says mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 20:29 GMT
#1157
On January 21 2016 05:27 Fecalfeast wrote:
I won't be able to really catch up until i get to work in an hour and a half was there anything I was asked in the 200+ posts I skimmed?


Fecalfeast: Not a strong read in any way, but I actually liked his posting better than a lot of the other people that have been relatively inactive. I want him to take Dr Watson.


you were suggested to take this role. im not sure if no one else said there taking it it would be nice if your read the thread.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 20 2016 20:29 GMT
#1158
Also Palmar, if I just straight up call you scum nonstop, what do you think will happen?

I'll tell you what. You will refuse to address me even more than you already do, with the excuse of "Lol ceph thinks I'm scum so he is confirmed mafia".

So suck it up and start proving you're town. I won't mind drafting KP to kill you otherwise.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:29 GMT
#1159
On January 21 2016 05:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:20 Palmar wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
well yea obviously you get autolynched if you pick something like janitor. But narukimi is very useful as a town role too, just especially powerful as scum. I would take it but I doubt a mafia before me doesnt take it.

See, if I townread you (like I do sicklucker) I'd be okay with you taking it. But because I don't, I don't want you to take it.

Shining could take it too imo.


If you townread me I would instantly call you mafia as the game hasn't even started yet. Noted that I should yell in caps more and be extremely passive aggressive to get townread by you though

Mostly just be active tbh

My current reads are the best I can do with the information I have. I might be fucking wrong on everything, but at least I'm trying.
Computer says mafia
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 20 2016 20:29 GMT
#1160
Okay I see you replied to me just as I writed this up, checking it now. Ignore the above.
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