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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
January 20 2016 20:01 GMT
#1121
RNG has spoken. I'm sending in House.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
January 20 2016 20:04 GMT
#1122
Badly formatted notepad post:

Disformation: Another filter I haven't reviewed. I remember thinking something might possibly be off about him. I want him to pick the Doctor
^ Wants to give a doc to someone he feels might be off.

Ticktock: I haven't reviewed his filter. I would like for him to pick an investigative role, preferably Moriarty

^ Pointed out towards his (Palmar's) inconsistent reaction regarding this guy earlier, and he said he hasn't even reviewed him. Wants to give a vet status to a player he has no idea about?

Onegu: Perpetually unreadable player who mafia will never shoot if he's town, but I have a solution to that.
Onegu will be picking City Councilman and we will be holding elections on day 1. Obviously I will be chosen mayor and voila, Onegu is now useful!

^ Wants to ensure that Onegu gets killed in the case he is town without having to waste KP. Why the hell is he not suggesting this role for one of his scumreads?


Sicklucker: Our secret weapon. COMPLETE AND UTTER FFA. Sicklucker is allowed to pick any role, including very mafia favored roles if he feels like it to check if they're in the game and to check if people above him followed the plan. He is also allowed to grab a KP role if he feels like it. A good suggestion for a role for him is the knight artorias thing which is a very strong mafia role.
Our secret weapon, who picks 3rd last place. That's going to do super much. Have you really thought this through Palmar?

I also love his introductory chapter, it's completely written from the perspective of "anyone trying to go against me is obviously scum", when that is certainly not true.
The most unbelievable part is this sentence: "Mafia will disrupt my plans, not because they think that's good for their team, although of course it is, but mostly because they think "that's what a good townie would do"."

No mafia or even townie believes that bull. There's no way in hell a single person in this game honestly believes that intentionally disrupting is pro-town, with the only exception being if you believe the one trying to assume the town leader position to be scum.

I do mostly agree the part with post counts, except that you shouldn't expect the whole team to play similarly. With 4 mafia players for each of the teams, they're more than likely to fill out different playstyles/roles.

As for what he's suggesting me to pick, I'll decide in the upcoming hours. I know he isn't getting me lynched anyway so I'm not concerned about that at all.
Also surprised he's not suggesting anyone to counterpick Hero or PSY?

I have to admit I like the idea of going dreamflower and just shooting mafia in succession. (Or failing and committing seppuku.)
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
January 20 2016 20:09 GMT
#1123
I'm at work right now so I don't have a bunch of time of respond to the Palmar plan, but if someone could come up with a list of abilities that redirect, bus, and watch that would be awesome.

On first glance I think mass claim could potentially work, but the biggest downside if having public knowledge of the top tier investigative roles. For instance, mafia shoot someone like Holmes or House and then mess with the results of the remaining ones because they know who to target. From what I remember, there weren't a ton of redirect tools in the setup so it might not be a huge issue. The key to stopping this would be to throw a watcher on the high priority cops to ensure that mafia can't shoot or mess with them without being spotted and trading 1:1.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 20 2016 20:10 GMT
#1124
Im surprised Palmar didnt mention yu narukimi, that role seems very strong in mafia hands when you have information and know exactly what you need to use at what time. Somebody should really take that role off the board.
I come in for the scraps
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:14 GMT
#1125
Or we could just have no one pick it?
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2016 20:15 GMT
#1126
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:16 GMT
#1127
I'm not gonna respond to ceph because he is mafia. There is no way he simply tries to tear everything I do down without either:

a) Actually calling me mafia

or

b) providing an alternative that's useful himself.

And if you're so sure everything I'm doing is dumb and you're awesome ceph, just pick the goddamn role I assigned to you and go be awesome!
Computer says mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 20:17 GMT
#1128
On January 21 2016 05:04 Cephiro wrote:
I have to admit I like the idea of going dreamflower and just shooting mafia in succession. (Or failing and committing seppuku.)

Good (=
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:18 GMT
#1129
Notice how none of the people antagonizing me or refusing to work with me are actually calling me mafia.

They're just being assholes for the sake of being assholes.
Computer says mafia
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
January 20 2016 20:19 GMT
#1130
well yea obviously you get autolynched if you pick something like janitor. But narukimi is very useful as a town role too, just especially powerful as scum. I would take it but I doubt a mafia before me doesnt take it.
I come in for the scraps
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:19 GMT
#1131
On January 21 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.

This is what the "check/ffa" players are for.

If you think someone above you is likely to be mafia, then you pick the role assigned to him. If you actually get the role, then you know whoever was assigned to pick it didn't follow through on his pick. This is where you yell.

"wtf did you pick bro, cause I picked your role and got it... what are you hiding??".
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2016 20:19 GMT
#1132
On January 21 2016 05:18 Palmar wrote:
Notice how none of the people antagonizing me or refusing to work with me are actually calling me mafia.

They're just being assholes for the sake of being assholes.

Hey. I said multiple times I totally respect your effort and that you should never be lynched. Your plan just got multiple holes in it in my very humble opinion. Like the pro mafia roles.
I had a good night of sleep.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 20:20 GMT
#1133
On January 21 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.


blocking mafia roles is pointless. I think the best strategy is for towns to get all the good protective/inv roles. That way we can let the mafia kill each other since they dont know who the other mafias are anyway. So i think vets/invg roles are best for town probably
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 20 2016 20:20 GMT
#1134
Gonna play some HOTS, I'm kinda around but unless some people wanna points specific stuff I'm OK with Palmar's plan
If we find out some people have picked mafia-only useful roles, we lynch them
Same thing if we find out they lied
EZ
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2016 20:20 GMT
#1135
On January 21 2016 05:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.

This is what the "check/ffa" players are for.

If you think someone above you is likely to be mafia, then you pick the role assigned to him. If you actually get the role, then you know whoever was assigned to pick it didn't follow through on his pick. This is where you yell.

"wtf did you pick bro, cause I picked your role and got it... what are you hiding??".

But you didn't assign the pro mafia roles at all... Or did you tell all people at the bottom to pick pro mafia roles? I didn't read them tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:20 GMT
#1136
On January 21 2016 05:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
well yea obviously you get autolynched if you pick something like janitor. But narukimi is very useful as a town role too, just especially powerful as scum. I would take it but I doubt a mafia before me doesnt take it.

See, if I townread you (like I do sicklucker) I'd be okay with you taking it. But because I don't, I don't want you to take it.

Shining could take it too imo.
Computer says mafia
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 20 2016 20:21 GMT
#1137
Like if theres alot of doctors/veterans in play. this will force mafia to not kill the obvious towns and instead kill questionable people so mafia on mafia violence
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2016 20:21 GMT
#1138
On January 21 2016 05:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.


blocking mafia roles is pointless. I think the best strategy is for towns to get all the good protective/inv roles. That way we can let the mafia kill each other since they dont know who the other mafias are anyway. So i think vets/invg roles are best for town probably

maybe. Problem is town might protect mafia and mafia only protects mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 20 2016 20:21 GMT
#1139
On January 21 2016 05:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:19 Palmar wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.

This is what the "check/ffa" players are for.

If you think someone above you is likely to be mafia, then you pick the role assigned to him. If you actually get the role, then you know whoever was assigned to pick it didn't follow through on his pick. This is where you yell.

"wtf did you pick bro, cause I picked your role and got it... what are you hiding??".

But you didn't assign the pro mafia roles at all... Or did you tell all people at the bottom to pick pro mafia roles? I didn't read them tbh.

no, that's the point.

if you think for example rels is mafia, you pick captain malcolm.

if you actually GET captain malcolm, you KNOW rels didn't pick it, and thus he must have picked something else. It's irrelevant what he picked really, the important part is he refused to take a strong town role for some reason.
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 20 2016 20:22 GMT
#1140
On January 21 2016 05:21 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 05:20 Koshi wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:19 Palmar wrote:
On January 21 2016 05:15 Koshi wrote:
There are a shitton great mafia roles that Palmar "forgot" to mention. I don't understand how mafia will not pick them.

This is what the "check/ffa" players are for.

If you think someone above you is likely to be mafia, then you pick the role assigned to him. If you actually get the role, then you know whoever was assigned to pick it didn't follow through on his pick. This is where you yell.

"wtf did you pick bro, cause I picked your role and got it... what are you hiding??".

But you didn't assign the pro mafia roles at all... Or did you tell all people at the bottom to pick pro mafia roles? I didn't read them tbh.

no, that's the point.

if you think for example rels is mafia, you pick captain malcolm.

if you actually GET captain malcolm, you KNOW rels didn't pick it, and thus he must have picked something else. It's irrelevant what he picked really, the important part is he refused to take a strong town role for some reason.

ah now I understand. But what about the mafias that are at the bottom?
I had a good night of sleep.
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