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On January 21 2016 14:01 GlowingBear wrote: I don't know what rolling back to back means :/ Having 2 games, one after the other, where you were scum. | ||
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On January 21 2016 13:12 Keirathi wrote: @Shining: Ooh, thanks. A few follow up questions if you're sticking around for a bit - Fair enough. Even if I'm scum, the other scum team wouldn't know that. So why wouldn't they try to bump me off of [1,1]? And if I'm town (and a good town, at that), then if someone does bump me off of first pick, then they would have to put up with extra scrutiny from me, yes? I mean, the draft order is public and everyone was claiming their numbers. It would be trivial to figure out who bumped me down. The point of the Palmar thing didn't have anything to do with Damdred at all. It had everything to do with how Palmar's read suddenly changed because I got [1,1] and THEN he decided to read my filter and decide I was scum. He could have done that before the draft phase ended and countered my [1,1] pick but didn't. And anyways, they could be on different teams. Or I could be wrong. Or whatever. I'm not sure how disliking Damdred in general is a conflict with not liking Palmars read switch? I can tell you why I have him down as tentative town. First, this post - That kind of jokey/lighthearted response just immediately 'feels' townie. Weak +town points. But the big thing is that a lot of his setup talk was about getting town protective/investigative roles. And he took Watson, which is a pretty pro-town role. If he's mafia, would he actually come out and SAY he wasn't going to much effort in? [I don't know TT and haven't read any of his games. I dunno what his personality is like or anything] The bumping you down thing actually makes a lot of sense when you put it like that. What you're saying is whether you were town or scum, someone bumping you down would make them suspect and possibly scummy to you, right? But it's NAI because there are two scumteams. You could be town and bumped by a scumteam, or scum bumped by the opposing scumteam. And in both cases, it would bring a possible scum open to scrutiny. It doesn't make you scum or town because the safest scumplay, regardless of your alignment, is to just leave you there. It just felt weird that someone like you had a few people TRing you at the time was allowed to keep the 1,1 and I was trying to find a reason for that. For the next one, I'll have to go re-read Palmar and check how that happened but I will say if you're right, it looks kind of bad. But considering Palmar was 5th in pick order, and no one showed any intention of bumping him, it could make sense from either alignment that he wouldn't counter your 1,1 and drop himself lower down the list. And the conflict with the Damred read and Palmar's switch was that you scummed Damdred after making the Palmar point. I can't really explain it but mentioning Damdred and his list at that moment felt like you would've pointed out what you thought was scummy about Damdred right then, as well, if you were scumreading him instead of waiting until after and making a separate "lets talk about Damdred" post. I can understand where you're coming from with Disfo but I don't feel that it's enough to town him, probably because i've played with him before. I remember emoticons and joking around from him in Dark Tournament, where he was scum. But the point about him discussing protective and investigative roles does make him look better. And his insta-claim of one of the sanity checks(I think it was Holmes) doesn't seem like there was any thought behind it, just "I have this info, I'm going to share it with town." That's why I'm waffly. RE: TT Ehhh I'm not really sure but he HAS come out and said he's not going to put much effort into games before as town so it could be trying to replicate past town games. But it's a super weak meta point at best, and paranoia at worst. | ||
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On January 21 2016 14:14 GlowingBear wrote: Ok it seems I'm right, I saw it untie database http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482863-game-of-thrones-mini-mafia?user=GlowingBear I just checked the database, it also happened here: [M][T] Mission Mini Mafia Mafia Mission Mafia Survived Day 5 [N] TL Mafia LXVIII: Fanfic Crossover Edition Mafia Roleblocker Survived Day 3 And GoT was the 2nd of these two back to backs: [M][N] Mafia Mini Mafia2: another miniature game of mafia Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 2 [M][N] Game of Thrones Mini Mafia Mafia Godfather Lynched Day 3 You get a bonus point for ante'ing up some of this info, though. I'm gonna skim the filters of those 2nd games and see how many fucks you give(or don't give) on D1. | ||
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On January 22 2016 04:56 Tictock wrote: Humm, interesting. I think I like this idea. So you want the D1 lynch to be decided by VA alone? | ||
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On January 22 2016 06:37 sicklucker wrote: ya ... koshi even tells ticktock hes picking werner in this post rofl. this post was directed to ticktock I cannot make this shit up. If we had an immediate vig that would be nice for info Lol the best I could do is flip him with the D3 daypost. Bang bang. | ||
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On January 23 2016 05:47 Tictock wrote: So tbh I think I'd still preffer Vivax out of Onegu/Vivax/geript, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure why nobody cares to talk about Koshi literally claiming scum? I'm also pretty disappointed this was the last thing we heard from Damdred. (and it was right at the start of this phase) I'm gunna vote Diformation since he has been a consistant scumread of mine and I'm not impressed that after our last exchange he's writing me off as town while saying I'm being bad for using meta and just ignores the rest of what I was saying. + Show Spoiler + On January 22 2016 13:17 Tictock wrote: Funny that you say this is the same breath that you're pushing me to claim my role... I really don't see you putting in much real thought this game Dis. You've spent a lot of time focused on me, but mostly you're just going with the flow. I'm used to town!Dis picking up on something and agonizing over it for half the day going back and forth and asking questions to try and make up your mind. Here you are basically agreeing with most of what people say and not sharing much of your own thinking. I get that you don't like me right now (you shouldn't), but honestly thinking I'm scum? I doubt it. Your not asking yourself real questions about what I'm doing, like why would I snipe your spot as scum when I saw you townreading me? Feels like I've become a scumread more out of convenience to you than any actual conviction behind it. On January 23 2016 00:15 disformation wrote: Let me quote some beautiful advise I got during one of my NSM games: Bonus points if someone is able to guess who told me that.  Also you can be annoying town. ##Vote: Disformation I'd appreciate if people could take one more look at Disinfo as well as Damdred and tell me how beautiful of a flower I am for wanting to lynch them right now. Idk about this. You'd rather lynch Vivax, who is in the lead, out of him/vivax/onegu but you don't know so you go for an outlier vote on Disfo when you know we need 12 to lynch? How sure are you on disfo? | ||
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I'm shooting tonight. The shot won't flip until the D3 daypost so I'll only lose more time if I don't shoot tonight. And I get to shoot again if I bang scum =D | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:12 Palmar wrote: also I want to point out how fucking right I was about vivax arguing with the organizational effort. Would you like a cookie? Or better yet, a piece of cake? | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:16 Palmar wrote: a glass of red wine and some dark belgian chocloate would do. I am a sophisticated scumhunter. I don't drink but I approve of the chocolate. Classy, indeed. | ||
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Can you 4 please explain why? Even though there's two scum factions, it's still pretty likely at least one here is scum. | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:27 Palmar wrote: Remember my wisdom about how mafia fight lynches? Another wisdom is that mafia tend to stay on wagons they're not pushing even if they're lone rangers on it. Were all these on the same wagon, or on some random shitty wagon? GB voted SL, one of the towniest people in thread to me. He had no time to really play, really apathetic, but somehow had enough to pull a scum read on SL. Vayne voted with scumVivax on Onegu. Need to recheck why. Damdred voted GB and defends Vivax as doing what he did as either alignment but he also said he didn't read. The stubbornness reads a bit townie to me, though. Onegu voted geript, also need to check on why for that one but I've never been in thread when onegus here so I don't remember him pushing geript. By your heuristic, they could all be scum but scum are teams of 4, which means it's impossible they're all with Vivax or knew he was scum. | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:30 Damdred wrote: Also an action has already been used on me rip You were already notified? | ||
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BH is a mysterious challenger role. Blazinghand (New - TL Mafia Ban List) You are Blazinghand, The Chosen, Wielder of the Sacred List, and He Who Guides The Newbie. Twice per game during the day phase (ability activates after the end of day), you may recommend that a player be banned. Unfortunately, you took over the banlist in the shadow of the Great GMarshal, He Who Sees All Things And Wields The Mighty Hammer, and your power is not absolute. The player you targeted may choose to either take a 'warning' (and be roleblocked for the following night phase and the following day phase) or 'sitout a game' (that player's vote during the following day phase is not counted). If the player chooses neither (either out of choice or because they are roleblocked) they will be BANNED. A banned player will have their vote stolen and added to your voting power for the following day. Cop, GB, Onegu, TT haven't claimed roles. And 3 of them claimed Mysterious Challenger. Cop, GB, TT. | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:51 CopCake wrote: No I won't, I have said several times that I think is so pro mafia to claim shit and mafia will use info in their advantage. Ok but since you don't want to claim, can you tell us if you're NOT Blazinghand? What's your current read on Damdred? | ||
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On January 23 2016 09:53 Damdred wrote: Actually I think it is probably copcake considering TT is trying to judge reactions before making hasty decisions. I see what you mean but TT alluded to thinking you're scum. I don't think Cop has given a read on you. | ||
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Bang bang. Wait am I gonna get scumread for not letting my shot be directed? Lol | ||
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