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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Lord make me a QT, I'll shine down on my brother he'll know I'm safe up there when he lynches all my killers oh, and, scum ain't always who you think they ought to be, no ain't even grey, but we buried VA The sharp knife of a short life Oh well, I've had just enough time If I die young... + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
1) Slip On January 27 2016 09:17 Tictock wrote: SL tried to say I'm definitly mafia because FF said me and Kita were a team, but then started to mix things and and said that Kita was the one who was saying I was on a team with FF. If he was scum I don't think he'd flip the names around like that kus he'd actually know who is on his team. You are pretty unlikely having cased Vivax and Kita early on, could still be that you are scum on the other team though. Like Koshi said scumhunting doesn't really confirm you town in this setup kus for all we know your only scumhunting for one team. His phrasing there implies TMI. 2) Weird read progression on Onegu On January 27 2016 14:08 Tictock wrote: Ok so... started this expecting to just make a simple list post but since the game is at a manageable size now I'll give you all more of my thinking. Remember, you asked for this. I'm pretty sure these people are town: 13. Koshi (+ Show Spoiler + Initial read was town, got worried based off EoD1 and him roleblocking me solely because I started scumreading him, EoD2 and varies interactions have me pretty sold on him being town. D2 should pretty much prove Koshi as town, only tinfoil left is if he was scum with FF and bussed him 15. The Shining (+ Show Spoiler + not sure I have really solid reasoning, so I could be wrong. but he convinced me early on that his mindset was towny. I'd prob only review if presented a good case on him 17. sicklucker (+ Show Spoiler + gave reasoning before, lots of things make me think he's town though These people might not be town, but are definitely not good lynches today 21. CopCake (+ Show Spoiler + gut/meta read says town. Shoveled GB upon request. It may not be super strong, but I think her role would be optimal for scum later in the game to help her team. So using it like this makes it unlikely she had a real agenda for her role. 22. Palmar (+ Show Spoiler + Has been pretty pro town, and sorta an ass while doing it. Oh yea also he did a good job finding scum D1 12. Superbia (+ Show Spoiler + Honestly I'm not sure and I've been doubting my initial townread on him since he took CPRDoc and started dropping off. His shots on VA and me don't look very good to me either, it's like he's only shooting low hanging fruit. I've played with him when he was Vig and his play was a lot different (his filter that game) but idk how strong that is given the vast setup differences. I left him in this section because even if he is mafia he should be trying to hit other mafia, which makes him more of a threat to mafia than to town. 5. Keirathi ( + Show Spoiler + I doubt scum fakes that spreadsheet thing he did, though as I'm typing I have to wonder why he waited till N2 to share it. If he gave up on it early why not just share it then? Ehh checking timestamps it seems pretty impossible that he faked that in response to what was going on at the time, and if your gunna preplan something like that I think you'd just make some real effort into the current gamestate not shit from preD1. So there, it's even tinfoil proof. Oh also there's other stuff but I feel like I used all my space here. Which leaves me with these people to look at even though I've got 2 scum somewhere above this. 1. disformation (+ Show Spoiler + Was suspect of him most of the early game, he did something that made me townread him more. Yes, I actually can't think of what it was atm. Think it's time to take a long hard look at his filter and see if he deserved that TR. Initial thinking is that he's been pretty active and open but hasn't really been putting in the effort that I've seen him make as town. Palmar also was right to ping out his GB case, it was really over the top for the actual content it had. Then again I think I've made bad filter posts like that before as town so idk. At the very least Dis should be happy that his nickname now implies how other people read him as well as his own reads. 3. Rels (+ Show Spoiler + I'll be honest, I'm mostly letting my fear get to me. Rels plays a strong active scum game though and I think his play this game might just be that. I don't have much conclusive to support that but I'll def be going through his filter checking some things. Some things I've noticed that Rels does as scum that might help: he doesn't bus (would be extra bad in this game), he goes after low-hanging fruit, over focuses on small details to make scum reads off of. Those are the sorta things I'll be looking for 4. Onegu (+ Show Spoiler + honestly pretty torn on Onegu. I thought the logic of him killing Alot as scum made sense, but I'm not sure if that's enough now. I need to check some stuff about how he's been using his power too. This is pure tinfoil but I was thinking Onegu's role and the way he's been using it could still be used rather effectively as scum. What if Onegu is scum and his team have been targeting themselves with KP and he's been bussing his teammates with someone they picked? Gets his team a lot of cred as they "get shot" I could well be way off course, but if that's true though it would add up as a team of FF, Onegu, Palmar, Koshi makes sense even given how D2 went down. On January 27 2016 14:11 Tictock wrote: Eh my misgiving's about Superbia are probably being influenced by OMGUS. Gunna yolo predict this game is Koshi, Palmar, Onegu, FF (kus that would be sweet plays by them) vs Kita, Vivax, Dis, Rels (kus that would mean my D1 reads were pretty decent) On January 27 2016 14:21 Tictock wrote: For now I'm gunna just assume this is god teir reads and vote Onegu to get rid of his role and keep the teams balanced. ##Vote: Onegu I already said what was wrong with this here, and here in that chain of quotes. 3) This post: On January 29 2016 13:02 Tictock wrote: Don't be salty that I was totally off about his teammates but still correctly lynched your scumbuddy. I had already said that stuff yesterday, and was just repeating it again having a conversation with koshi. Why didn't he have a problem with it THEN, but does NOW? And I obviously wasn't acting 'salty', so what was the point of jabbing at me like that? + Show Spoiler [SPECULATION AREA, STAY AWAY] + So, because of the slip and the way his reads on Kita/Vivax changed (he had Kita as scum all the way through draft phase and day 1, then mysteriously after koshi launched his nuke, Kita was in his town reads, for Vivax during day 1 he started calling Vivax scum a few times, but didn't vote for him until the wagon was basically unstoppable), I think it's fairly likely that he is on a team with them. Which leads me to believe FF and Onegu were on the other team. So: kita/vivax/TT/?? vs FF/Onegu/??/?? I think that probably puts disfo on the FF/Onegu team. Them having Watson and Moriarty would give them a good position to lie about any of FF's checks (by claiming FF was insane, whether he was or not. FF could just do whatever and always had an excuse to never have a useful result), and let disfo try to keep them alive at night. Still trying to work out who the last two would be. GB/Cake seem almost too easy. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On January 30 2016 04:50 sicklucker wrote: Just ignore the dumb things tt says and embrace the smart things Pro-Tip. lol And Koshi I will never stop tinfoiling, it's like the only part of these games I actually have lots of fun with. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Guess who is back. You are correct, your favourite poster all game every game and I will make you suffer in agony as you have to read yet another bunch of my posts. Have a headache going on so my posts will be even more awesome! yay. Thanks palmar for finally trying to explain why I am scum. Still don't 100% get it, but at this point I am probably better off asking post game and/or the fine folks in the Obs QT I will probably manage to meet in a few hours. At least I learned to never put the words fear and palmar together this way, cause that apparently will get me killed regardless of alignment. Sry, for being a little bitch the last few days, but I was super stressed out cause RL stuff and your super uncooperative attitude towards me pissed me off. Still wub you facepalmar even though you were a bit of a flower this time. <3 Time for some random reads. yay. TLDR versions. maybe will try to whip out some explanations, b4 I get shot in the face. NOT THE KNEE! NOT THE ARM! SHOOT ME IN THE FACE! IN THE FACE! + Show Spoiler + THANK YOU! Never ever scum, or if one of them is, please nominate for an award after the game: koshi, palmar totally forgot that he is in this game: the shining scummers be here: CC, TT, keir bit waffly about TT and as mentioned earlier I don't want you guys to kill keir. So if you could let win keir the game, that would be great. probably not scum. but not 100% sure: Superbia, Rels, SL One of them kinda has to be scum though, cuz I'm town.  | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I had narrowed down my list to Rels, Dis, and Onegu and started thinking about the tinfoil stuff with Onegu. Put my vote on him kus he was the more interesting of the 3 to put pressure on imo. But with any luck I get shot tonight (though if Super shoots me I will be salty) and I won't have to deal with these kinds of shitty reads on me. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On January 29 2016 10:02 Tictock wrote: You really think anyone deserves credit for lynching a Redcheck? And if anyone gets credit for Onegu lynch it's SL and Me. I voted Onegu before SL forced the 1v1. But what if I'm just mafia from the other team? So stuff your cred where the sun don't shine. Dude, when did you become so angry and unfriendly? I don't recall you being angry and unfriendly in the games we were town together?  On January 30 2016 04:18 Koshi wrote: TT is mafia or can die. I have had enough with the tinfoil. At some point it has to be something else. He wastes way too many posts on tinfoil bullshit and way too little on actual scumhunting. TT, I am not kidding here, get gut, or get out. If you are town. Stop the bullshit tinfoil because I will fucking kill you. All your following posts I want to read how YOU plan on solving the game. Like. The very next steps. Why are you so angry over some flowery tinfoils? At least shows that TT is imaginative. Lots of angry this game. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On January 30 2016 06:12 Keirathi wrote: + Show Spoiler [SPECULATION AREA, STAY AWAY] + So, because of the slip and the way his reads on Kita/Vivax changed (he had Kita as scum all the way through draft phase and day 1, then mysteriously after koshi launched his nuke, Kita was in his town reads, for Vivax during day 1 he started calling Vivax scum a few times, but didn't vote for him until the wagon was basically unstoppable), I think it's fairly likely that he is on a team with them. Which leads me to believe FF and Onegu were on the other team. So: kita/vivax/TT/?? vs FF/Onegu/??/?? I think that probably puts disfo on the FF/Onegu team. Them having Watson and Moriarty would give them a good position to lie about any of FF's checks (by claiming FF was insane, whether he was or not. FF could just do whatever and always had an excuse to never have a useful result), and let disfo try to keep them alive at night. Still trying to work out who the last two would be. GB/Cake seem almost too easy. + Show Spoiler [MORE SPECULATION ZONE] + The more I think about it, the more it makes sense that disfo and FF were on the same team. It also explains why Breshke was shot night 1, so that they could just do whatever they want without him. So kita/Vivax/TT/?? vs FF/Onegu/disfo/?? Feel pretty good about that, so far. GB never mentioned Onegu a single time during the game. Granted he died before SL used his role on Onegu, but Onegu has been talked about all game and GB completely ignored him. Point 1 in favor of GB being the last mafia on that team. Also calls FF and disfo town. Probably the last scum in that group. Kita/VIvax/TT/?? vs FF/Onegu/Disfo/GB. Sounds okay to me. For the last one....I'm really just not sure. Shining's big post of reads still just gives me super town feels, and pretty much everyone in this list of scummers I've made was on it. Cake just...doens't really feel like scum!Cake from the game i played on vendetta-strada with her. Palmar and Koshi aren't scum. So that just leaves one of Superbia/SL. My gut says it would probably be SL. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
Rels only protect 3 if you have >3 charges. Let's go good flips. See you guys tomorrow. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
i think i die tonight if i do gg guys | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Resolution Period ![[image loading]](http://media3.cdn.builtincolorado.com/sites/www.builtincolorado.com/files/imagecache/Original/images/325b354.jpg) HOLD! The daypost will be here shortly. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Day 4 Disformation, as Dr. John Watson, was Killed! Koshi, as Werner von Braun, was Killed! Keirathi, as Dr. House, was Killed! It is now Day 4! With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch. The day will end in | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Rels how koshi die? | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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