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On January 29 2016 09:15 Superbia wrote:
I also want to discuss my plan.
I think rels saving both me and koshi is correct. With disfo overlapping on one of us.
TT should visit someone outside of myself or koshi to see if he can get a future roleblock (this is how it works, right?).
Koshi just madhats whoever the fuck he wants bc he shouldn't die.
I put KP on someone.
Nope, not even in the slightest (well I'm assuming a little about how the Vanilla Virus works, kus I don't think it's a RB by itself.)
First off my ability happens during the day I have no night actions.
Second, GB's role reads "a 1 shot RB that passes a Vanilla virus to whomever your target was visiting" Pretty sure the RB is different from the Virus which nullifies Roles but wouldn't affect Mafia KP.
So even if I could pass it I'm not sure I see any value in doing so. The virus ends tonight.
I'm ok with the rest of this.
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On January 29 2016 09:18 Palmar wrote:
@Mafia: you're still meant to shoot each other.
Yea fucking do some work this game, geez.
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On January 29 2016 10:03 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 10:02 Superbia wrote:On January 29 2016 10:01 Koshi wrote:So basically if anybody gets the rb message not this night but the night after means tt is mafia? Strange stuff. I guess TT should stay at home tonight  What role is tt? challenger (BlazingHand) Damn. Worst role to get. I would really feel bad.
Meh, I laid my own bed on that one.
I shoulda taken Gambler though *shrug*
I'll know to play nice early on in PYP games from now on.
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On January 29 2016 09:49 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 08:52 Keirathi wrote:
Onegu: if I unvote you, you shoot me?
I think I have to die if town wants to win because I'm useless and if I stay alive it just gets way harder closer to lylo. This post doesn't add up, you are far from useless if you bother to play (which you sorta aren't, mostly making excuses). You have a solid role so you keep using it...
So let's play a game.
Onegu flipped scum. So, if we assume that I am scum, what was my goal with that post? Just to make myself look bad for no reason? To try to save Onegu's role?
If I was trying to save Onegu's role, that almost certainly means that I'm on his team. Would be silly otherwise. So, say I voted to SL and got the lynch to him instead of Onegu. Then Onegu uses his ability on a townie. Assuming SL is town, that would mean we would trade 2 mafia (me and onegu) for 2 town (SL + whoever Onegu shot). So, that would be beyond stupid, especially since it's pretty likely that the mafia teams both have 3 or fewer players left. Trading 2 of them for no gain is bad. Plus, I would be giving my role away for free. If we make the reasonably safe assumption that Superbia is town, then I basically hard counter his role. Like, 100% hard counter it. Why would I give that up for free with a stupid post?
I've realized something in my years of playing mafia. Sometimes a player just has to die. Even if they're town, the longer they stay alive, the harder it is for town to win the game. That person you don't want to have alive in LYLO because scum will never kill them, and at best they're a coinflip. At worst they're actively detrimental to town and will get lynched 99% of the time.
I'm that person this game. Through a lot of fault of my own, and a little fault of other people, I'm not invested in this game at all. I'm not going to stop posting or anything, I'll still TRY, but I don't think I have it in me shit townie rainbows and talk myself out a lynch. There are a few specific things I'm good at as town, and they just don't apply here and I can't get a handle on the game.
I thought Onegu was town, I was willing to die (under the wrong assumption that we could nolynch) to keep him alive longer.
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Rels and Dis are still top on my list for possible scum.
Super I have mixed feelings about. I did get a chance to read a little of his filter (up to D1 I think) and it looked a lot more like what I remembered from our first game together. So my scumread on him has lessened somewhat, but I intend to finish that filter dive and post something more solid.
Keir has been rubbing me the wrong way recently but I'd need to take a closer look. Now that we see Onegu flipped scum it's a bit interesting that his tracks have been tagging Onegu's bus targets, but that's pretty tinfoil.
Copcake really only has the shoveling of GB as points in her favor and that doesn't account for much.
I'm still pretty solid on Koshi and SL being town, and have warmed up to the idea of Palmar being town a lot more. Never lynching those 3.
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@ Keir my problem with that post is that you are Marytying hard and have been on that track for quite some time.
I don't get why you would feel so helpless and useless as town when you haven't fully utilized your role and we have been lynching Mafia day after day.
That mindset makes much more sense if you are mafia and realize that you aren't going to be able to fool us easily and can't be bothered to play against that uphill battle.
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On January 29 2016 10:40 Tictock wrote:
@ Keir my problem with that post is that you are Marytying hard and have been on that track for quite some time.
I don't get why you would feel so helpless and useless as town when you haven't fully utilized your role and we have been lynching Mafia day after day.
That mindset makes much more sense if you are mafia and realize that you aren't going to be able to fool us easily and can't be bothered to play against that uphill battle.
Sure, if you say so.
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On January 29 2016 10:41 Koshi wrote:
What role is Rels?
Malcolm Reynolds.
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On January 29 2016 09:02 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 09:01 disformation wrote:
I told you Onegu was scummy.
Voting scum 3 days in a row. Still everyone thinks I am scum cause there are tow teams. FML: Everyone thinks you're scum because I told them you're scum. I don't think you're scum because of your voting record, I don't really give a shit about your voting record. I think you're scum because your posts don't sound like anything a real boy, let alone a townie, would ever write.
no but I acualy see your thought process and its good. Or i think i see it . I like what it is if I made it up myself
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i cant be with ff and i cant be with onegu. I dont know how i am ever a lynch this game koshi
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On January 29 2016 09:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 09:53 sicklucker wrote:
HOW THE FUCK DID I GET 3 VOTES YOU NERDS
also TOLD U Nope you didn't. You said Onegu was town 24/7.
not at all. I just eazed up on him because i felt bad and didnt want him to kill me in the night lolz
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Like even if you are Town and you've been wrong on several people thus far, you are still alive, have a useful role, and can help town win by making reads and trying to find scum.
So sacrificing yourself over anyone you aren't sure about is super shit if you are town.
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LIKE ONEGU IS THE KIND OF GUY THAT SPITE KILLS PEOPLE. i didnt want town to lose a number so I was kinda nice to him (it worked) if I thought he was town I would not have used my power on him... I literraly killed him and got 100% credit I did not think he was town lol
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Like koshi read my filter where me and onegu get into it and tell me with a straight town face that Im mafia...
DO IT
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If I seem uninterested in the game its because im very happy to just poe this down and not get shot in the night
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Actually I'm not giving you anymore pep-talk, kus looking over your big post it seems like you are worried about being associated with Onegu which was not even what I was thinking when I first saw that.
But since you asked...
Onegu flipped scum. So, if we assume that I am scum, what was my goal with that post? Just to make myself look bad for no reason? To try to save Onegu's role?
I'm sure that if you are scum it was an attempt to give yourself up since you are clearly unmotivated to play and make Onegu look much more town for having used his ability to kill you.
Your role is shit for scum, his isn't.
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So yea, I think our next lynch is one of Dis or Keir at this point.
Whoever doesn't die tonight.
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Oh shit I forgot The Shining was in this game.
Should take another look at him as well, just in case.
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Just wanted to remind people of this too.
You once fought bravely against the torrent of the abyss, but since it corrupted you and your sword you have gained its powers. Despite your wishes, all you feel is the urge to consume this world with Dark. Each night, you may use the confusing powers of the dark abyss to replace one player with another, bussdriving them. any action that would target one player will instead target the other, and vice versa. You may not use this power to target yourself or knowingly bus a member of your own faction.
So we know 100% that Koshi and Palmar are not mafia with Onegu.
I also still really think it's interesting that Onegu bussed the correct targets both nights (and also that Keir watched them). It really suggests to me that they were taking pot shots at "obvious targets" while redirecting them to good town roles.
It would also further explain why Keir asked to be killed, and is now worried that he looks mafia with Onegu. Kus all their night actions are way to on point to not be associated.
I think I'll stop pursuing this association read for now though kus I might just be getting carried away. But I would like second opinions on it.
It's actually almost bedtime for me anyways.
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