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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 10:54 GMT
#303
And what I meant by Palmar's push being "stupid" was just that it's so super-confident...

Hm.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 10:54 GMT
#305
On January 14 2016 19:48 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 19:34 Palmar wrote:
I'd like to hear both of your thoughts (rit, xat) on that latest development in rayn's dodgy posting. I broke down why he is guilty.


considering i thought your read on rayn was a long-con joke for probably 2 pages; i would say i am not particularly convinced. but perhaps your amazing intellect and subtle distinctions are too much for my half asleep 3 am brain. i doubt it.

gonna go out on a limb and say that rayn is probably just town for defending me, even though it's the firs time it's ever happened and it sketches me out a bit. only real reason to do something like that as mafia that early is to establish a pocket on me; and i don't think rayn values my town play enough to go out of the way to pocket me there. plus my argument is very self-centered and as has been established in the thread "i give no fucks what anyone says".


Lolz, I thought it was a joke for quite a while too
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 11:13 GMT
#308
Did we?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 11:14 GMT
#309
I don't think I ever considered your points for making ritoky town there as really valid?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 11:22 GMT
#318
On January 14 2016 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Really Xatalos?
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On January 14 2016 18:37 Xatalos wrote:
I guess so...

VE: I also didn't really like the things ritoky was pushing. It was just the way he posted that made me think he could be town after all. He was so bold and didn't really seem to care what others thought of him. Fits better with a town mindset.

This is basically the same thing i said except you used different words...


That "I guess so..." was just referring to your "We'll see" post.

And I don't think it's quite the same thing to say that ritoky was doing boldly whatever he wanted, or that it didn't make sense for scum ritoky to make the association read. It's pretty different actually.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 13:08 GMT
#337
Yeah, I dunno. Unusually hard for me to make sense of what's going on with you and Palmar, for example.

Other than that, I'd lean town on ritoky and DYH... And I'm mostly worried about Ace and Damdred. Nothing strong.

I guess that's it for now.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 13:28 GMT
#339
Did you have any reads so far, by the way?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 13:47 GMT
#350
On January 14 2016 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 18:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:44 Xatalos wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:37 Xatalos wrote:
I guess so...

VE: I also didn't really like the things ritoky was pushing. It was just the way he posted that made me think he could be town after all. He was so bold and didn't really seem to care what others thought of him. Fits better with a town mindset.

This describes ritoky as either alignment as far as I'm aware.


Really? Hm...

I mean, have you ever read a game where ritoky gives a shit what anyone thinks?

Xatalos did you agree with this or not?
If you didn't, why aren't you investigating into this further?


Not sure if that's the case and got sidetracked from the issue earlier.

Now that you brought that up... VE, would be nice if you linked to a scum ritoky game where he didn't care about appearances?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 13:52 GMT
#357
Well, I think marv is probably just AFK. If he was here as scum, I'd think he would have at least posted something.

No idea about Alot. Not the worst lynch option, I guess.

HF's ninjavote still baffles me. Just what is he doing.. But he's been really good as scum from what I remember, so I somehow doubt this is his scum master plan.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 13:53 GMT
#359
You're talking about ritoky?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 13:56 GMT
#362
Hm. I'm not really inclined to lynch ritoky either. We'll see..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 13:58 GMT
#364
On January 14 2016 22:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Will Not Lynch Today
VE
ritoky
rayn
Trfel
Palmar
DYH
Xatalos
Would Consider Lynching
Ace
marv
Damdred
My Lynch Preference
Alot

I prefer Alot because he's one of the only players to pop in and actually give an unreasoned opinion and then fade into the background. Most everyone has struck up some sort of conversation with someone and Alot did not. Maybe he had something else to do, or maybe he went to bed, or whatever. But I just didn't like the way he just sorta faded into obscurity after his throwaway opinions.

So yeah. I'm headed to bed. If anyone wants my reasons for why people are where they are on my list, then ask and I'll maybe eventually get to it. For the most part though you should probably just accept that I have reasons that I didn't provide and they're good ones.


Overall I don't think this list is bad. Wouldn't lynch either marv or HF for the time being though, and probably not during D1 anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 13:58 GMT
#365
Why not just replace marv?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 14:01 GMT
#367
Oh well. That's a shame. I got Vig for the first time on this site too :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 14:03 GMT
#369
That's a pretty unfair meta tactic though. He can just instantly prove he's town by playing at all...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 14:04 GMT
#371
Oh yes, my meta heuristic on rayn was actually initially right :D I just lost faith on the journey.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 14:14 GMT
#376
It was funny though
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 14 2016 14:40 GMT
#386
ObsQT?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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