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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 11 2016 21:57 GMT
#881
On January 12 2016 06:56 Tubesock wrote:
Darth only really voted me, then unvoted, then revoted me.


disregard.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 11 2016 21:59 GMT
#882
Grr. I would like to be mvp of this game. But it is probably going to be this guy.
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 10 2016 02:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm about to go to bed will refresh a couple more times in case there's any last questions. Here's another updated summary of where I'm at.

sloOsh boxerfred darthfoley mderg

Where I'm at right now though, I would be very surprised if only one of these scumreads is accurate. I think at the very least I've pinned down 2 scum in these red names.

GiygaS Eden1892 Nooniansoong Koshi Raynpelikoneet

I feel pretty good about all of these players being town.

??? Tubesock VayneAuthority Kmatt

No fkin clue
I had a good night of sleep.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 11 2016 22:05 GMT
#883
Updated thoughts from everybody's favorite townie.


I think Tubesock is town. I am not sure if GiygaS is town or mafia. Very willing to entertain that the argument was between two townies, am 100% sure it wasn't two mafia. If this isn't obvious to anyone at this point, I can elaborate, but I think Tubesock's posting throughout this phase speaks for itself. He had a mediocre/bad start, but that doesn't mean very much, and his recovery has me sold.


+ Show Spoiler [For Eden] +
Don't bother reading this, I was gonna do this but then I saw the stuff about darthfoley and found more interesting stuff to talk about. Typing all this with html tags was a bitch so I'm keeping this here for later.

Following from that, some vote count analysis. I'm filling in my reads as green and flipped boxerfred as red. I will keep my reads limited to the ones I think are uncontroversial so as to limit the number of leaps needed to accept my premises.



Vote Count (16.5 hours)

Tubesock (4): Eden1892, Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley
slOosh (2): GGTeMpLaR, VayneAuthority
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
Koshi (1): boxerfred
GiygaS (1): Tubesock


(9.5 hours)
Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley
VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred
boxerfred (1): GGTeMpLaR
nooniansoong (1): Raynpelikoneet


(1.5 hours)
Unofficial Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet
VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
boxerfred (2): GGTeMpLaR, mderg
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred


(1 hour)
Official Vote Count

Tubesock (4): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet, darthfoley
boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, mderg, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred


(Final)
Final Vote Count

boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, slOosh, Koshi
Tubesock (2): GiygaS, darthfoley
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
nooniansoong (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred



On January 11 2016 01:45 darthfoley wrote:
Good morning

I like the way Tubesock has defended himself over the past 3-4 pages so i'm ##unvoting for now.


On January 11 2016 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
Given how this Tubesock/GiygaS has progressed, i'm more confident in my vote for VA. He hasn't posted anything recently, and I find very little substance in what he has posted. I'm with you on this one sloosh

##Vote: VayneAuthority


On January 11 2016 06:28 darthfoley wrote:
I read through VA's filters from the previous two games and I see what rayne is saying. VA's D1 posts are consistently not substantive as town.

I don't see any sense in considering Rayne as a better lynch than Noonian on D1, so I'm back on Tubesock.

##Unvote


darthfoley: What changed in between these posts for you? You retracted your vote on Tubesock about 6.5 hours before the lynch, saying that you were satisfied with Tubesock's defense of himself. You even felt that your argument on Vayne was better for the matter, since it didn't try to resolve a confusing situation between GiygaS and Tubesock.

But then just a few hours later, you say that because Vayne is "consistently not substantive as town" on D1, you're back to voting Tubesock? Even though you were satisfied with his defense?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 11 2016 22:11 GMT
#884
i townread darthfoley for somethign but i forget what
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 11 2016 22:14 GMT
#885
On January 12 2016 07:11 nooniansoong wrote:
i townread darthfoley for somethign but i forget what

Oh, well that changes everything.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 11 2016 22:22 GMT
#886
On January 12 2016 07:05 Eden1892 wrote:
Updated thoughts from everybody's favorite townie.


I think Tubesock is town. I am not sure if GiygaS is town or mafia. Very willing to entertain that the argument was between two townies, am 100% sure it wasn't two mafia. If this isn't obvious to anyone at this point, I can elaborate, but I think Tubesock's posting throughout this phase speaks for itself. He had a mediocre/bad start, but that doesn't mean very much, and his recovery has me sold.


+ Show Spoiler [For Eden] +
Don't bother reading this, I was gonna do this but then I saw the stuff about darthfoley and found more interesting stuff to talk about. Typing all this with html tags was a bitch so I'm keeping this here for later.

Following from that, some vote count analysis. I'm filling in my reads as green and flipped boxerfred as red. I will keep my reads limited to the ones I think are uncontroversial so as to limit the number of leaps needed to accept my premises.



Vote Count (16.5 hours)

Tubesock (4): Eden1892, Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley
slOosh (2): GGTeMpLaR, VayneAuthority
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
Koshi (1): boxerfred
GiygaS (1): Tubesock


(9.5 hours)
Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley
VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred
boxerfred (1): GGTeMpLaR
nooniansoong (1): Raynpelikoneet


(1.5 hours)
Unofficial Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet
VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
boxerfred (2): GGTeMpLaR, mderg
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred


(1 hour)
Official Vote Count

Tubesock (4): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet, darthfoley
boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, mderg, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred


(Final)
Final Vote Count

boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, slOosh, Koshi
Tubesock (2): GiygaS, darthfoley
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
nooniansoong (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred



Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 01:45 darthfoley wrote:
Good morning

I like the way Tubesock has defended himself over the past 3-4 pages so i'm ##unvoting for now.


Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
Given how this Tubesock/GiygaS has progressed, i'm more confident in my vote for VA. He hasn't posted anything recently, and I find very little substance in what he has posted. I'm with you on this one sloosh

##Vote: VayneAuthority


Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 06:28 darthfoley wrote:
I read through VA's filters from the previous two games and I see what rayne is saying. VA's D1 posts are consistently not substantive as town.

I don't see any sense in considering Rayne as a better lynch than Noonian on D1, so I'm back on Tubesock.

##Unvote


darthfoley: What changed in between these posts for you? You retracted your vote on Tubesock about 6.5 hours before the lynch, saying that you were satisfied with Tubesock's defense of himself. You even felt that your argument on Vayne was better for the matter, since it didn't try to resolve a confusing situation between GiygaS and Tubesock.

But then just a few hours later, you say that because Vayne is "consistently not substantive as town" on D1, you're back to voting Tubesock? Even though you were satisfied with his defense?


What changed is that I went back and looked at Tubesock vs. GiygaS again. As GiygaS pointed out, Tubesock had basically only provided one read of substance (exluding posts like, "I like darth because his posts feel towny") the entire day: GiygaS. I also realized that his case of GiygaS regarding "our reads are the same but he says it's weird" is actually quite easily explained... because my original post that GiygaS quoted explained his reasoning in full.

My satisfaction with his defense lessened after this. I backed off of VA because I trusted Rayne's read on him and wanted to see his substantive reads post EoD1. I don't agree with his conclusion but I understand why Rayne adamantly wanted him a part of N1/D2 discussion.

Again, I could've easily switched my vote to Noonian or GiygaS to counter the boxerfred bandwagon if I were desperate EoD1 mafia, especially Noonian because their filters were similar in substance.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 11 2016 22:24 GMT
#887
There was a lot of talk about switching votes at the end for a number of people. Why wouldn't I do it to blend in and use the defense that mderg used: "idk my vote wouldn't have mattered either way!"
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 11 2016 22:48 GMT
#888
On January 12 2016 07:22 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2016 07:05 Eden1892 wrote:
Updated thoughts from everybody's favorite townie.


I think Tubesock is town. I am not sure if GiygaS is town or mafia. Very willing to entertain that the argument was between two townies, am 100% sure it wasn't two mafia. If this isn't obvious to anyone at this point, I can elaborate, but I think Tubesock's posting throughout this phase speaks for itself. He had a mediocre/bad start, but that doesn't mean very much, and his recovery has me sold.


+ Show Spoiler [For Eden] +
Don't bother reading this, I was gonna do this but then I saw the stuff about darthfoley and found more interesting stuff to talk about. Typing all this with html tags was a bitch so I'm keeping this here for later.

Following from that, some vote count analysis. I'm filling in my reads as green and flipped boxerfred as red. I will keep my reads limited to the ones I think are uncontroversial so as to limit the number of leaps needed to accept my premises.



Vote Count (16.5 hours)

Tubesock (4): Eden1892, Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley
slOosh (2): GGTeMpLaR, VayneAuthority
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
Koshi (1): boxerfred
GiygaS (1): Tubesock


(9.5 hours)
Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley
VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred
boxerfred (1): GGTeMpLaR
nooniansoong (1): Raynpelikoneet


(1.5 hours)
Unofficial Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet
VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
boxerfred (2): GGTeMpLaR, mderg
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred


(1 hour)
Official Vote Count

Tubesock (4): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet, darthfoley
boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, mderg, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred


(Final)
Final Vote Count

boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, slOosh, Koshi
Tubesock (2): GiygaS, darthfoley
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
nooniansoong (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred



On January 11 2016 01:45 darthfoley wrote:
Good morning

I like the way Tubesock has defended himself over the past 3-4 pages so i'm ##unvoting for now.


On January 11 2016 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
Given how this Tubesock/GiygaS has progressed, i'm more confident in my vote for VA. He hasn't posted anything recently, and I find very little substance in what he has posted. I'm with you on this one sloosh

##Vote: VayneAuthority


On January 11 2016 06:28 darthfoley wrote:
I read through VA's filters from the previous two games and I see what rayne is saying. VA's D1 posts are consistently not substantive as town.

I don't see any sense in considering Rayne as a better lynch than Noonian on D1, so I'm back on Tubesock.

##Unvote


darthfoley: What changed in between these posts for you? You retracted your vote on Tubesock about 6.5 hours before the lynch, saying that you were satisfied with Tubesock's defense of himself. You even felt that your argument on Vayne was better for the matter, since it didn't try to resolve a confusing situation between GiygaS and Tubesock.

But then just a few hours later, you say that because Vayne is "consistently not substantive as town" on D1, you're back to voting Tubesock? Even though you were satisfied with his defense?


What changed is that I went back and looked at Tubesock vs. GiygaS again. As GiygaS pointed out, Tubesock had basically only provided one read of substance (exluding posts like, "I like darth because his posts feel towny") the entire day: GiygaS. I also realized that his case of GiygaS regarding "our reads are the same but he says it's weird" is actually quite easily explained... because my original post that GiygaS quoted explained his reasoning in full.


So you reread Tubesock's posts, after your unvote, and found that Tubesock had only given one read all day?

That's odd. How much reading did you really do? Because before you even unvoted, Tubesock had plenty to say about other people in the game:

On January 11 2016 00:47 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 00:40 Koshi wrote:
VA, Boxerfred, Sloosh need to be lynched if Tubesock isnt' happening.

Kush is a terrible lynch.
Giygas is just not mafia.

Tubesock is fucking hard to read.


I'm onboard for the Boxerfred or Kmatt lynch. VA is an ok enough lynch. He'd be number 4 though.

Noon is a terrible lynch. I'd lynch Rayne before Noon.

I don't know how to help you with a meta read, but if you have some other questions I'm around because apparently I'm not sleeping for awhile.


On January 11 2016 01:56 darthfoley wrote:
Right now I'm most suspicious of GiygaS or VA for a red D1 lynch, but I'd also like to hear the case on boxerfred


I also question that you went back and reread the initial case Tubesock gave, as if you had, you would have noticed that GiygaS did not quote you in his original post. Tubesock filled in the posts from you to explain his case.

Would you care to resolve these discrepancies?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 11 2016 22:50 GMT
#889
whoops. I quoted the wrong thing, although now that I've done so...

Why did you have GiygaS as one of your best targets when you returned to the thread and unvoted Tubesock? What did you see that made you do a complete 180 there?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 11 2016 22:52 GMT
#890
Do not lynch: Koshi, mderg, slOosh, GGTeMpLaR, Tubesock

Top targets: darthfoley, scott31337

Figure these guys out: Nooniansoong, VayneAuthority, GiygaS

Watch this guy who's probably town, but also good enough to be mafia here: raynpelikoneet
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 11 2016 22:53 GMT
#891
Why is mderg town Eden?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 11 2016 22:54 GMT
#892
Ohyeah nvm. I know why he is town. LoL


mderg is town boys.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 11 2016 22:54 GMT
#893
"likely town"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 11 2016 22:55 GMT
#894
On January 12 2016 07:52 Eden1892 wrote:
Do not lynch: Koshi, mderg, slOosh, GGTeMpLaR, Tubesock

Top targets: darthfoley, scott31337

Figure these guys out: Nooniansoong, VayneAuthority, GiygaS

Watch this guy who's probably town, but also good enough to be mafia here: raynpelikoneet

I want to add that VA is never mafia if darthfoley is. And that I don't think Kush is mafia. Not at all.
I had a good night of sleep.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 11 2016 22:55 GMT
#895
On January 12 2016 07:53 Koshi wrote:
Why is mderg town Eden?


On January 12 2016 07:54 Koshi wrote:
Ohyeah nvm. I know why he is town. LoL


mderg is town boys.


On January 12 2016 07:54 Koshi wrote:
"likely town"


gr8 talk fam
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 11 2016 22:58 GMT
#896
Remember fam... we can work backwards.

I'm dead = there is a medic.
I'm alive = there is no medic because we know I'm town.

[image loading]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
January 11 2016 22:59 GMT
#897
Day 2
[image loading]

No flavour because this is an unoriginal game. Somebody died. His name was raynpelikoneet. Joni. With a capital R to troll him. So...Roni. And..yeah...he's green or something. You may mourn appropriately.Have fun. (Also, Roni, Heroes???)

It is now Day 2! You have until Wednesday, Jan 13 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread.

Also Lex asked me if I'd say he fails at life in the day post. I told him no.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 11 2016 23:03 GMT
#898
Wow awesome I don't even have to be paranoid anymore! Thanks mafia!

Mafia for sure don't have a medic and no one else died in the night. Seems to point to Setup A which means someone we suspect is probably a freeroll townie. God Bless America
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 11 2016 23:05 GMT
#899
Time to claim. I'm cop checked tube sock he was mafia. Now back to work!
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 11 2016 23:05 GMT
#900
Omg we get a cop too? Christmas was over two weeks ago! What's going on here??
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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