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On January 12 2016 04:33 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 04:24 Koshi wrote:
Anybody got a recent mafia game from Giygas? I only got one from 2013 i've looked into this. giygas played a few games, took a long ass break, then recently started back up. So yes his last recorded mafia game was 2013.
Well that sucks :/
He played pretty well as mafia there.
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On January 12 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote:
what about the fact he was on boxerfred?
He had to be on boxerfred at that time because giygas was no longer a viable lynch. Then as soon as he saw an opportunity to sheep rayn onto me he did.
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On January 12 2016 04:36 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote:
what about the fact he was on boxerfred? He had to be on boxerfred at that time because giygas was no longer a viable lynch. Then as soon as he saw an opportunity to sheep rayn onto me he did.
He kinda did it very late.
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On January 12 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 04:36 nooniansoong wrote:On January 12 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote:
what about the fact he was on boxerfred? He had to be on boxerfred at that time because giygas was no longer a viable lynch. Then as soon as he saw an opportunity to sheep rayn onto me he did. He kinda did it very late.
why does that mean it wasn't opportunistic?
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On January 12 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 04:36 nooniansoong wrote:On January 12 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote:
what about the fact he was on boxerfred? He had to be on boxerfred at that time because giygas was no longer a viable lynch. Then as soon as he saw an opportunity to sheep rayn onto me he did. He kinda did it very late.
He didn't do it "as soon as he saw an opportunity". He just did it seconds before the lynch. If he was planning on moving off mafia, wouldn't he at least do it faster and try to actually not lynch his teammate? Or stay on mafia and get the towncred?
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Staying on boxer would buy mderg WAY more towncred. Let's say he is framer or gf.
Then he is untouchable forever.
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On January 10 2016 16:28 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 15:26 Tubesock wrote:##Vote: GiygaSOn January 10 2016 12:11 GiygaS wrote:I'm gonna ladder a bit and come back, but before I do ##Vote tubesockHis last posts townreads were really odd. Basically My list is (roughly from scummy to less scummy) tubesock: not much more to say on him that darth already hasn't + Show Spoiler [ Darthfoley's Tube Case] +On January 10 2016 10:08 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 04:37 Tubesock wrote:
@Eden - I did think the thread was heading in the towning people for too dumb to be mafia reasons. Also I posted to post. At the time there really wasn't anything I felt compelled to respond to.
Easy town reads
Reyn, Eden, SloOsh, Nooniansoong
GGtemplar I didn't like his first like 5 posts but he looks a lot better this morning.
Koshi while gives me some weird scuzzies I am not willing to lynch him.
Vayne I am not willing to lynch either. I like his tone.
the rest haven't said anything I found interesting or memorable.
I have to work today and have Christmas dinner tonight but after that I'll be in thread. This is Tubesock's only post of the day and I'm not a fan. Easy reads on sloosh, Noonian? None of these reads have any reasoning behind them. The vagueness with things like tone or "weird scuzzies" make me think scum mderg: + Show Spoiler [ blah blah words] +says easy things that are easy to say. his darth case is the only real content he has and it doesn't feel very substantial. Feels like he went looking around for something to read on, made the post and moved on. He's not pushing his read anymore, and hasn't even really talked about it again.
---- Line of scumminess --- kmatt: baby come back VA: I want to believe that his matter of fact tone makes him town, but I just can't given the things I'm reading about his reputation ---- Line of towniness --- noonboxer koshiggtemp: If he was mafia he would have used his supposed inexperience as a shield. sloosh---- Line of more-towniness --- darth eden
raynThere's very likely a mafia in my town reads as I'm really not sure about a lot of them, but I want to lynch mderg or tubesock as it stands now. GiygaS should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. His case if he were town would include things like how I scum claimed, bitched and whined about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when I was called out for it I bailed scummily. That I have 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe I was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe. If you are going to make a case, it should be something like Tubesock's Tubesock is mafia case. Not, wow we have the same reads but Tubesocks town reads are so weird! There is plenty to case me on beyond just what Darth has said without needing to parrot the most active posters. As someone who is currently voting you and is quite interested in lynching you today, how would you explain the above to me to be coming from a townie instead? Being conscious of the problems with your play thus far makes me more inclined to kill you, rather than less (as I figure was the intended effect) -- I'm not really impressed with the "X is scummy because he called me scummy for ABC reasons, when you should be scumreading me for XYZ reasons" argument, I'd rather just kill you for XYZ (and maybe ABC) and sort out X later.
On January 10 2016 16:37 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 16:30 slOosh wrote:
Eden, what do you think about Tubesock's point that GiygaS had more or less the same townreads as Tubesock, yet cites his townreads as the reason for voting Tubesock? It's interesting, a pretty reasonable read. But I would still rather kill Tubesock, as that's the only thing he's posted (as of me typing this) that's left me willing to consider not killing him, and as I already thought GiygaS was pretty solidly town. What do you think?
Eden is town because I do not think a mafia would ever make this. Sure, if we were both scum then that's possible. Despite strongly thinking I'm scum, he still made an effort to reevaluate. He is searching for the truth. mafia!Eden would not gain anything from doing this to me.
And what he gained out of this is that only 1 of GiygaS or I can be mafia. So, while he's not sold I am town, he is obviously thinking about it and not dismissing it out of hand.
you know like Rayn did.
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Same for Sloosh? Who the fuck is going to lynch him?
Even though everybody said Sloosh was mafia with boxerfred during the first half of D1.
Now Sloosh lynched mafia and everybody yells confirmed town.
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On January 12 2016 04:39 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 16:28 Eden1892 wrote:On January 10 2016 15:26 Tubesock wrote:##Vote: GiygaSOn January 10 2016 12:11 GiygaS wrote:I'm gonna ladder a bit and come back, but before I do ##Vote tubesockHis last posts townreads were really odd. Basically My list is (roughly from scummy to less scummy) tubesock: not much more to say on him that darth already hasn't + Show Spoiler [ Darthfoley's Tube Case] +On January 10 2016 10:08 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 04:37 Tubesock wrote:
@Eden - I did think the thread was heading in the towning people for too dumb to be mafia reasons. Also I posted to post. At the time there really wasn't anything I felt compelled to respond to.
Easy town reads
Reyn, Eden, SloOsh, Nooniansoong
GGtemplar I didn't like his first like 5 posts but he looks a lot better this morning.
Koshi while gives me some weird scuzzies I am not willing to lynch him.
Vayne I am not willing to lynch either. I like his tone.
the rest haven't said anything I found interesting or memorable.
I have to work today and have Christmas dinner tonight but after that I'll be in thread. This is Tubesock's only post of the day and I'm not a fan. Easy reads on sloosh, Noonian? None of these reads have any reasoning behind them. The vagueness with things like tone or "weird scuzzies" make me think scum mderg: + Show Spoiler [ blah blah words] +says easy things that are easy to say. his darth case is the only real content he has and it doesn't feel very substantial. Feels like he went looking around for something to read on, made the post and moved on. He's not pushing his read anymore, and hasn't even really talked about it again.
---- Line of scumminess --- kmatt: baby come back VA: I want to believe that his matter of fact tone makes him town, but I just can't given the things I'm reading about his reputation ---- Line of towniness --- noonboxer koshiggtemp: If he was mafia he would have used his supposed inexperience as a shield. sloosh---- Line of more-towniness --- darth eden
raynThere's very likely a mafia in my town reads as I'm really not sure about a lot of them, but I want to lynch mderg or tubesock as it stands now. GiygaS should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. His case if he were town would include things like how I scum claimed, bitched and whined about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when I was called out for it I bailed scummily. That I have 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe I was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe. If you are going to make a case, it should be something like Tubesock's Tubesock is mafia case. Not, wow we have the same reads but Tubesocks town reads are so weird! There is plenty to case me on beyond just what Darth has said without needing to parrot the most active posters. As someone who is currently voting you and is quite interested in lynching you today, how would you explain the above to me to be coming from a townie instead? Being conscious of the problems with your play thus far makes me more inclined to kill you, rather than less (as I figure was the intended effect) -- I'm not really impressed with the "X is scummy because he called me scummy for ABC reasons, when you should be scumreading me for XYZ reasons" argument, I'd rather just kill you for XYZ (and maybe ABC) and sort out X later. Show nested quote +On January 10 2016 16:37 Eden1892 wrote:On January 10 2016 16:30 slOosh wrote:
Eden, what do you think about Tubesock's point that GiygaS had more or less the same townreads as Tubesock, yet cites his townreads as the reason for voting Tubesock? It's interesting, a pretty reasonable read. But I would still rather kill Tubesock, as that's the only thing he's posted (as of me typing this) that's left me willing to consider not killing him, and as I already thought GiygaS was pretty solidly town. What do you think? Eden is town because I do not think a mafia would ever make this. Sure, if we were both scum then that's possible. Despite strongly thinking I'm scum, he still made an effort to reevaluate. He is searching for the truth. mafia!Eden would not gain anything from doing this to me. And what he gained out of this is that only 1 of GiygaS or I can be mafia. So, while he's not sold I am town, he is obviously thinking about it and not dismissing it out of hand. you know like Rayn did.
Good post.
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On January 12 2016 04:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:On January 12 2016 04:36 nooniansoong wrote:On January 12 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote:
what about the fact he was on boxerfred? He had to be on boxerfred at that time because giygas was no longer a viable lynch. Then as soon as he saw an opportunity to sheep rayn onto me he did. He kinda did it very late. He didn't do it "as soon as he saw an opportunity". He just did it seconds before the lynch. If he was planning on moving off mafia, wouldn't he at least do it faster and try to actually not lynch his teammate? Or stay on mafia and get the towncred?
I don't understand what makes it less scummy that he did it in the last second.
I don't think he was planning anything. I think at the last second he was like "hmmm maybe i can actually save my scumbud" and switched.
ive done it many times as scum.
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On January 12 2016 04:35 Koshi wrote:
Tube. You ever saw a mafia with reads that were so wild & inconsistent? And then not be able to get the lynch off mafia boxerfred while you had 4 votes on you and boxer had 3 votes? Why would he spare you and go to Kush when he knew I would never lynch Kush and would always lynch boxer?
Yea idk why Rayne wouldn't continue the Tubesock wagon when he was up by a vote with less than 2(?) hours to go before the vote. If Rayne were mafia, why would he switch to Noonian when he had a solid wagon on you Tubesock?
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On January 12 2016 04:40 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 04:38 Koshi wrote:On January 12 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:On January 12 2016 04:36 nooniansoong wrote:On January 12 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote:
what about the fact he was on boxerfred? He had to be on boxerfred at that time because giygas was no longer a viable lynch. Then as soon as he saw an opportunity to sheep rayn onto me he did. He kinda did it very late. He didn't do it "as soon as he saw an opportunity". He just did it seconds before the lynch. If he was planning on moving off mafia, wouldn't he at least do it faster and try to actually not lynch his teammate? Or stay on mafia and get the towncred? I don't understand what makes it less scummy that he did it in the last second. I don't think he was planning anything. I think at the last second he was like "hmmm maybe i can actually save my scumbud" and switched. ive done it many times as scum.
That is shit then. Staying is way better.
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On January 12 2016 03:30 nooniansoong wrote:Anyway during lunch i went through some filters. Mderg looking scummy. - pressure on darthfoley that goes no where - sheeped TS onto gigyas - jumped ship on gigyas when wagon looked like it was going to falter. He gave no reason except that he thought about it more. - left a scumlynch a the last second for me. Again without any reasoning, except my lack of content. Show nested quote +On January 11 2016 07:53 mderg wrote:
Well, kush is producing less content than the last game I've played with him. And even in that game he was not producing enough content for me. I can definitely see where you're coming from. But boxerfred had even less content then me so I don't buy this reason to switch off boxerfred.
I wasn't voting you for lack of content. That played a big part in it but it was not what put you above boxerfred for the lynch. You two were practically the same to me, you probably even looked a bit better. But everybody seemed fine with the boxerfred lynch, so I thought it somehow had to be wrong
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On January 12 2016 04:35 Koshi wrote:
Tube. You ever saw a mafia with reads that were so wild & inconsistent? And then not be able to get the lynch off mafia boxerfred while you had 4 votes on you and boxer had 3 votes? Why would he spare you and go to Kush when he knew I would never lynch Kush and would always lynch boxer?
Because I will flip town.
Then people will really look into GiygaS. GiygaS will flip red. Then Rayn looks extremely bad for defending 2 mafia.
Yeah, I get it association reads are bad. But my read on Rayn isn't about association. It's his filter. He constantly exaggerates and nitpicks shit. Instead of figuring out my point of my GiygaS case he dismisses it. He dismisses and misrepresents Noon (which YOU agree to!!!).
His actions at eod and his posting don't make sense.
Look at Eden at the end of day. Eden and Rayn said about the same things concerning Boxerfred. Box was essentially a null. So Eden didn't really have any reason to oppose that lynch. No reason to defend it either.
Rayn tries to shenany to Noon. No one bites, then he doesn't revert back to me? Like his posts all have me. Most his posts have me in the scumteam listed when he's pushing for Noon lynch.
His 1 reason to be hesitant on lynching me is that there was 1 thing that I "might make sense, idk" on. Like 1 thing that is obcviously weak since he never took me out of the mafia teams later.
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On January 12 2016 04:41 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 04:40 nooniansoong wrote:On January 12 2016 04:38 Koshi wrote:On January 12 2016 04:37 Koshi wrote:On January 12 2016 04:36 nooniansoong wrote:On January 12 2016 03:35 Koshi wrote:
what about the fact he was on boxerfred? He had to be on boxerfred at that time because giygas was no longer a viable lynch. Then as soon as he saw an opportunity to sheep rayn onto me he did. He kinda did it very late. He didn't do it "as soon as he saw an opportunity". He just did it seconds before the lynch. If he was planning on moving off mafia, wouldn't he at least do it faster and try to actually not lynch his teammate? Or stay on mafia and get the towncred? I don't understand what makes it less scummy that he did it in the last second. I don't think he was planning anything. I think at the last second he was like "hmmm maybe i can actually save my scumbud" and switched. ive done it many times as scum. That is shit then. Staying is way better.
I know this is wifom but as scum I'd be perfectly fine with busing and taking towncred. I would only switch there, if it guarantees boxerfred survives.
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On January 12 2016 04:41 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 04:35 Koshi wrote:
Tube. You ever saw a mafia with reads that were so wild & inconsistent? And then not be able to get the lynch off mafia boxerfred while you had 4 votes on you and boxer had 3 votes? Why would he spare you and go to Kush when he knew I would never lynch Kush and would always lynch boxer? Yea idk why Rayne wouldn't continue the Tubesock wagon when he was up by a vote with less than 2(?) hours to go before the vote. If Rayne were mafia, why would he switch to Noonian when he had a solid wagon on you Tubesock?
On January 12 2016 04:11 Tubesock wrote:
People would see me flip town and then be very suspicious of GiygaS. He already knows Boxer is useless. As RB or not he's dying very soon. When GiygaS flips red, then D1 VCA will make Rayn look very bad. mafia!rayn can not be on my wagon at the end of the day. But he can do his damndest to get others to lynch me.
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On January 12 2016 04:52 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 04:41 darthfoley wrote:On January 12 2016 04:35 Koshi wrote:
Tube. You ever saw a mafia with reads that were so wild & inconsistent? And then not be able to get the lynch off mafia boxerfred while you had 4 votes on you and boxer had 3 votes? Why would he spare you and go to Kush when he knew I would never lynch Kush and would always lynch boxer? Yea idk why Rayne wouldn't continue the Tubesock wagon when he was up by a vote with less than 2(?) hours to go before the vote. If Rayne were mafia, why would he switch to Noonian when he had a solid wagon on you Tubesock? Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 04:11 Tubesock wrote:
People would see me flip town and then be very suspicious of GiygaS. He already knows Boxer is useless. As RB or not he's dying very soon. When GiygaS flips red, then D1 VCA will make Rayn look very bad. mafia!rayn can not be on my wagon at the end of the day. But he can do his damndest to get others to lynch me.
You're just trying to make rayn's play fit into your read with some crazy narrative.
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On January 12 2016 04:58 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 04:52 Tubesock wrote:On January 12 2016 04:41 darthfoley wrote:On January 12 2016 04:35 Koshi wrote:
Tube. You ever saw a mafia with reads that were so wild & inconsistent? And then not be able to get the lynch off mafia boxerfred while you had 4 votes on you and boxer had 3 votes? Why would he spare you and go to Kush when he knew I would never lynch Kush and would always lynch boxer? Yea idk why Rayne wouldn't continue the Tubesock wagon when he was up by a vote with less than 2(?) hours to go before the vote. If Rayne were mafia, why would he switch to Noonian when he had a solid wagon on you Tubesock? On January 12 2016 04:11 Tubesock wrote:
People would see me flip town and then be very suspicious of GiygaS. He already knows Boxer is useless. As RB or not he's dying very soon. When GiygaS flips red, then D1 VCA will make Rayn look very bad. mafia!rayn can not be on my wagon at the end of the day. But he can do his damndest to get others to lynch me. You're just trying to make rayn's play fit into your read with some crazy narrative.
I know you didn't read what I wrote since the answer was in my post.
So this makes me think you haven't read Rayn's filter and compared it to what he was doing, what he said, what he was saying others said.
Is there anyone you know you actually read and tried to get the truth from?
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On January 12 2016 04:47 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2016 03:30 nooniansoong wrote:Anyway during lunch i went through some filters. Mderg looking scummy. - pressure on darthfoley that goes no where - sheeped TS onto gigyas - jumped ship on gigyas when wagon looked like it was going to falter. He gave no reason except that he thought about it more. - left a scumlynch a the last second for me. Again without any reasoning, except my lack of content. On January 11 2016 07:53 mderg wrote:
Well, kush is producing less content than the last game I've played with him. And even in that game he was not producing enough content for me. I can definitely see where you're coming from. But boxerfred had even less content then me so I don't buy this reason to switch off boxerfred. I wasn't voting you for lack of content. That played a big part in it but it was not what put you above boxerfred for the lynch. You two were practically the same to me, you probably even looked a bit better. But everybody seemed fine with the boxerfred lynch, so I thought it somehow had to be wrong
by everyone you mean 3/12 people?
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On January 11 2016 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2016 22:27 Koshi wrote:On January 11 2016 21:26 nooniansoong wrote:
As rayns official butt busy do you think it's possible he's scum or should I not even bark up that tree He is town because he broke up the Tubesock wagon by voting you. Which made me move to boxerfred. We can argue that this argument is m00t if Tubesock is mafia, beacuse then rayn attempted to move everybody from Tube to you to save both his teammates. But really... Are we going there? Like even if Tubesock if mafia, he did it in a really bad way. Way too late.
Other than that his filter is fine enough to townread anyway. Yes this is right. If i am scum i am scum exactly with Tubesock. Then you have to argue why my vote didn't go on GiygaS earlier -- and why did i scumread Tubesock harder than GiygaS from their argument (i didn't really have to, and i actually fucked up a bit there with my reading comprehension -- which i pointed out at some point, and which was the reason i didn't vote Tubesock at the end of the day). You can also argue why i am - -as the most active player in this game -- incapable of realizing the thread sentiment moving to lynching boxerfred from all the people (well i nthis case from my scumbuddy), and why was i okay with it, and why didn't i do anything about it when i had the MOST town capita in the game at that point.So hey, feel free to argue about that.
You were pleading for people to move to Nooniansoong so you were trying to move it and no one did so that kind of nullifies your MOST town capita in the game point. You were also most certainly NOT ok with the Boxerfred lynch.
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