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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 12 2016 00:32 GMT
#960
I'm not a blue role.

I'm a VT
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 12 2016 16:38 GMT
#1046
My classes end at 3:00 today so i'll be on in a few hours to read through the thread
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 12 2016 22:15 GMT
#1082
Okay I've read the last couple of pages and I will try to respond to everything that's been presented against me.

I'll provide my reads currently

Confirmed town: slOosh (named VT and no one can counterclaim), GiygaS (cop)

~100% confirmed town in my mind: GGTemplar. As I posted earlier, GGTemp was on the boxerfred wagon from the beginning, and I can't see a mafia strat including bussing your RB from almost the beginning of day 1. I'm less certain (but would bet) that Koshi is playing a good town game. However, I've rightly caught a lot of flak for being wishy washy on my voting habits; Koshi voted for four people during the day phase (Nooniansong, VA, Tubesock, Boxerfred). While unlikely, is it impossible for him to be on Tubesock, realize it won't go through, and switch to Boxerfred because the town cred for being on the correct lynch wagon vastly outweighs the benefit of having a suspiciously inactive mafia around that could eventually be tied back to you, even if it's the RB? Boxerfred in his kill post even said he realized he couldn't be active. I think smart mafia may be able to use that to their advantage in their QT thing. May i'm getting too tin-foil hatty here, or perhaps i'm sherlock holmes. This would basically confirm town Tubesock though, unless we somehow had two correct lynch wagons going on D1.

Regarding VA, I just want to point this post out near the beginning of the game from Koshi.


3) VA is a master of pushing mafia agenda. If Sloosh isn't mafia the agenda is very intact. What I mean is: his options are still completely open to do w.e the fuck he wants to reach his wincon and help his team win.


If VA is either a smart town or good mafia, it makes sense why he would target me coming out N1 with a hard read on me. I've clearly been wishy washy on votes, misread posts, and haven't really led town discussion on anything, which signals weak first game town that can easily be made into a *ding ding ding, darth checks off all the mafia bells.* I understand why his case is compelling, except I haven't "feigned ignorance" like he says I have. I fully accept that I haven't been a strong town, but I haven't relied on the newbie crutch at all imo. If you guys end up lynching me, take good look at him when I come back green.

I've gone through mderg's filter and I think he is probably town at this point; I don't think it would make sense to get off the Boxerfred wagon at that point in the day if he were trying to claim town cred for a correct lynch. While his filter is shorter than most, I don't see anything incriminating him currently.

With the setup confirmed A, I think Tubesock is a potential frame target, however the EoD vote was so scattered that I could see mafia team including Tubesock deciding to not frame Tubesock to green. Given how his wagon kind of collapsed near the end of the day, there seemed to be some consensus that Tubesock was acting more townie. Personally i'm not very sold on the WIFOM "lynch me!" because isn't that exactly what you would do to come off as a town, willing to die for the good of the order?

Noonian - I'm not sure what I think of Noonian at this point. While it doesn't make much sense for a mafia to defend someone who is likely to be lynched in the next day or two, it could also maybe(?) establish town creds when I flip green. Noon hasn't really given any reads besides his mderg+Eden hail mary, so that gives me some scum vibes.

Scott - I don't want to beat a dead horse, but Scott's number 1-7 thing is pretty questionable. His excuse that he hadn't updated it when he posted it is also kind of silly: GGTemp being the same as me at 5.5, even though he advocated hard for boxerfred, and I didn't? I don't know why, if he's been reading the thread like he says he has, you would only have a "light" town read on GGTemp. I also don't think his case against mderg has any legs to stand on, leaving him with little substance even though he's posted a fair amount. He's my #2 lynch behind Tubesock.

Eden - I think he's been especially strong since EoD1, making me fairly confident he's town. His discussion of mafia teams/lynch strategy make a lot of sense if you agree that either (but not both) me or Tubesock are mafia-- and most of you do.

I realize this is the dreaded wall of text, but I haven't been able to post for a while
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 12 2016 22:19 GMT
#1084
Hold on, trying to find a question Eden had for me
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 12 2016 22:54 GMT
#1086
On January 12 2016 11:50 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2016 08:58 darthfoley wrote:
On January 12 2016 07:48 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 12 2016 07:22 darthfoley wrote:
On January 12 2016 07:05 Eden1892 wrote:
Updated thoughts from everybody's favorite townie.


I think Tubesock is town. I am not sure if GiygaS is town or mafia. Very willing to entertain that the argument was between two townies, am 100% sure it wasn't two mafia. If this isn't obvious to anyone at this point, I can elaborate, but I think Tubesock's posting throughout this phase speaks for itself. He had a mediocre/bad start, but that doesn't mean very much, and his recovery has me sold.


+ Show Spoiler [For Eden] +
Don't bother reading this, I was gonna do this but then I saw the stuff about darthfoley and found more interesting stuff to talk about. Typing all this with html tags was a bitch so I'm keeping this here for later.

Following from that, some vote count analysis. I'm filling in my reads as green and flipped boxerfred as red. I will keep my reads limited to the ones I think are uncontroversial so as to limit the number of leaps needed to accept my premises.



Vote Count (16.5 hours)

Tubesock (4): Eden1892, Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley
slOosh (2): GGTeMpLaR, VayneAuthority
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
Koshi (1): boxerfred
GiygaS (1): Tubesock


(9.5 hours)
Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley
VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred
boxerfred (1): GGTeMpLaR
nooniansoong (1): Raynpelikoneet


(1.5 hours)
Unofficial Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet
VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
boxerfred (2): GGTeMpLaR, mderg
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred


(1 hour)
Official Vote Count

Tubesock (4): Koshi, GiygaS, Raynpelikoneet, darthfoley
boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, mderg, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred


(Final)
Final Vote Count

boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, slOosh, Koshi
Tubesock (2): GiygaS, darthfoley
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
nooniansoong (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred



On January 11 2016 01:45 darthfoley wrote:
Good morning

I like the way Tubesock has defended himself over the past 3-4 pages so i'm ##unvoting for now.


On January 11 2016 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
Given how this Tubesock/GiygaS has progressed, i'm more confident in my vote for VA. He hasn't posted anything recently, and I find very little substance in what he has posted. I'm with you on this one sloosh

##Vote: VayneAuthority


On January 11 2016 06:28 darthfoley wrote:
I read through VA's filters from the previous two games and I see what rayne is saying. VA's D1 posts are consistently not substantive as town.

I don't see any sense in considering Rayne as a better lynch than Noonian on D1, so I'm back on Tubesock.

##Unvote


darthfoley: What changed in between these posts for you? You retracted your vote on Tubesock about 6.5 hours before the lynch, saying that you were satisfied with Tubesock's defense of himself. You even felt that your argument on Vayne was better for the matter, since it didn't try to resolve a confusing situation between GiygaS and Tubesock.

But then just a few hours later, you say that because Vayne is "consistently not substantive as town" on D1, you're back to voting Tubesock? Even though you were satisfied with his defense?


What changed is that I went back and looked at Tubesock vs. GiygaS again. As GiygaS pointed out, Tubesock had basically only provided one read of substance (exluding posts like, "I like darth because his posts feel towny") the entire day: GiygaS. I also realized that his case of GiygaS regarding "our reads are the same but he says it's weird" is actually quite easily explained... because my original post that GiygaS quoted explained his reasoning in full.


So you reread Tubesock's posts, after your unvote, and found that Tubesock had only given one read all day?

That's odd. How much reading did you really do? Because before you even unvoted, Tubesock had plenty to say about other people in the game:

On January 11 2016 00:47 Tubesock wrote:
On January 11 2016 00:40 Koshi wrote:
VA, Boxerfred, Sloosh need to be lynched if Tubesock isnt' happening.

Kush is a terrible lynch.
Giygas is just not mafia.

Tubesock is fucking hard to read.


I'm onboard for the Boxerfred or Kmatt lynch. VA is an ok enough lynch. He'd be number 4 though.

Noon is a terrible lynch. I'd lynch Rayne before Noon.

I don't know how to help you with a meta read, but if you have some other questions I'm around because apparently I'm not sleeping for awhile.


On January 11 2016 01:56 darthfoley wrote:
Right now I'm most suspicious of GiygaS or VA for a red D1 lynch, but I'd also like to hear the case on boxerfred


I also question that you went back and reread the initial case Tubesock gave, as if you had, you would have noticed that GiygaS did not quote you in his original post. Tubesock filled in the posts from you to explain his case.

Would you care to resolve these discrepancies?


I said he only posted one read of substance. Regarding the reads you quoted, I explained at the time that it didn't make sense to consider Noon more towny than Rayne at that point in the game. I think being "onboard" for boxerfred or Kmatt is pretty safe at that point in the voting process, especially because at this time it was 4 to 3 for Tubesock vs. Boxerfred. Would've been tied 4/4 if he changed from GiygaS to Boxerfred. Boxerfred hadn't been very active and you would get lots of town cred if you supported a correct lynch day 1. I mean we've already confirmed town everyone who voted for Boxerfred, so losing an inactive mafia isn't the end of the world if it basically makes you an unlynchable for a while.

However, people then jumped off the Tubesock wagon and he didn't need to do this, while still getting towncred for being "okay" with a boxerfred lynch and consistency for sticking with GiygaS.

GiygaS didn't directly quote me, but he basically did "not much more to say on him that darth already hasn't"




That's great and all, but at the end of the day, you're not explaining why it is that Tubesock's posting, which was essentially unchanged between your unvote and your subsequent vote, no longer was townie enough for you. You've just gone in after being called on it and basically said some things that, if true, were already true of Tubesock before you unvoted.

Like if you felt his reads weren't substantive enough, that's fine, but you either decided that they were substantive enough when you unvoted him (as that was the reason you voted him initially), or you unvoted him despite them not being substantive enough. Either way there's a glaring discrepancy that your explanation fails to satisfy.


At the time I unvoted I did believe Tubesock's defense against GiygaS. However, as the day progressed I realized how easy I am to manipulate because most arguments seem more credible to me than they really are. I started to get this feeling because Rayne kept grilling Tubesock over it regarding details I hadn't thought of. I then voted on VA because I was suspicious of his inactivity and thought it was a safe bet. But because I trusted Rayne the most, I took his advice and looked through his D1 posts from other games. I saw his point and decided that I wouldn't vote VA EoD1, leaving me to either go back to Tubesock, or randomly vote for people I didn't have strong suspicions of: GiygaS, Boxerfred, slOosh or Koshi. I didn't find any of those people more suspicious than Tubesock, so I voted Tubesock. Even though Tubesock had 3 votes when I got back on the wagon, votes were spread thinly so I didn't want to screw up with some shot in the dark against someone else.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 12 2016 23:20 GMT
#1088
I took rayn's advice regarding holding off on the VA vote until D2.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 12 2016 23:23 GMT
#1090
I also ##Vote: Tubesock
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 13 2016 17:50 GMT
#1143
On January 13 2016 18:20 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 07:15 darthfoley wrote:
Okay I've read the last couple of pages and I will try to respond to everything that's been presented against me.

I'll provide my reads currently

Confirmed town: slOosh (named VT and no one can counterclaim), GiygaS (cop)

~100% confirmed town in my mind: GGTemplar. As I posted earlier, GGTemp was on the boxerfred wagon from the beginning, and I can't see a mafia strat including bussing your RB from almost the beginning of day 1. I'm less certain (but would bet) that Koshi is playing a good town game. However, I've rightly caught a lot of flak for being wishy washy on my voting habits; Koshi voted for four people during the day phase (Nooniansong, VA, Tubesock, Boxerfred). While unlikely, is it impossible for him to be on Tubesock, realize it won't go through, and switch to Boxerfred because the town cred for being on the correct lynch wagon vastly outweighs the benefit of having a suspiciously inactive mafia around that could eventually be tied back to you, even if it's the RB? Boxerfred in his kill post even said he realized he couldn't be active. I think smart mafia may be able to use that to their advantage in their QT thing. May i'm getting too tin-foil hatty here, or perhaps i'm sherlock holmes. This would basically confirm town Tubesock though, unless we somehow had two correct lynch wagons going on D1.

Regarding VA, I just want to point this post out near the beginning of the game from Koshi.


3) VA is a master of pushing mafia agenda. If Sloosh isn't mafia the agenda is very intact. What I mean is: his options are still completely open to do w.e the fuck he wants to reach his wincon and help his team win.


If VA is either a smart town or good mafia, it makes sense why he would target me coming out N1 with a hard read on me. I've clearly been wishy washy on votes, misread posts, and haven't really led town discussion on anything, which signals weak first game town that can easily be made into a *ding ding ding, darth checks off all the mafia bells.* I understand why his case is compelling, except I haven't "feigned ignorance" like he says I have. I fully accept that I haven't been a strong town, but I haven't relied on the newbie crutch at all imo. If you guys end up lynching me, take good look at him when I come back green.

I've gone through mderg's filter and I think he is probably town at this point; I don't think it would make sense to get off the Boxerfred wagon at that point in the day if he were trying to claim town cred for a correct lynch. While his filter is shorter than most, I don't see anything incriminating him currently.

With the setup confirmed A, I think Tubesock is a potential frame target, however the EoD vote was so scattered that I could see mafia team including Tubesock deciding to not frame Tubesock to green. Given how his wagon kind of collapsed near the end of the day, there seemed to be some consensus that Tubesock was acting more townie. Personally i'm not very sold on the WIFOM "lynch me!" because isn't that exactly what you would do to come off as a town, willing to die for the good of the order?

Noonian - I'm not sure what I think of Noonian at this point. While it doesn't make much sense for a mafia to defend someone who is likely to be lynched in the next day or two, it could also maybe(?) establish town creds when I flip green. Noon hasn't really given any reads besides his mderg+Eden hail mary, so that gives me some scum vibes.

Scott - I don't want to beat a dead horse, but Scott's number 1-7 thing is pretty questionable. His excuse that he hadn't updated it when he posted it is also kind of silly: GGTemp being the same as me at 5.5, even though he advocated hard for boxerfred, and I didn't? I don't know why, if he's been reading the thread like he says he has, you would only have a "light" town read on GGTemp. I also don't think his case against mderg has any legs to stand on, leaving him with little substance even though he's posted a fair amount. He's my #2 lynch behind Tubesock.

Eden - I think he's been especially strong since EoD1, making me fairly confident he's town. His discussion of mafia teams/lynch strategy make a lot of sense if you agree that either (but not both) me or Tubesock are mafia-- and most of you do.

I realize this is the dreaded wall of text, but I haven't been able to post for a while

soooooo

100% town: sloosh, giygas, ggtemplar
pretty town: me, mderg

shrug: noonian

lynch: tubesock, scott

koshi is ?????? you say probably a good townie game but then spend the rest of the paragraph talking about how he's mafia...

va is "smart town or good mafia" who we should look at



This is pretty uninspiring for me. Obvious town reads are obvious, made only slightly spicy by somehow not town reading Koshi as strongly as some other town reads. Obvious lynches are obvious.

The thing that would actually help us solve this game is sorting out the trio of darthfoley, Vayne and kush. darth gives us very little about this -- his read on Vayne seems to imply that he thinks Vayne is mafia (see "when I flip green look at this guy"), but he starts off by saying "If VA were smart town or good mafia," his behavior makes sense. So all I learn from this is that darth doesn't think VA is dumb town. Great I guess, but not really helping.

It's also strange to me that darth combines a very conceding treatment of VA's arguments (stuff like "I understand I haven't been a great townie" and the like), but then still thinks we should suspect VA. If VA's arguments are reasonable enough to force a concessive "I understand I haven't been a great townie" type of reaction, then why would VA be suspicious for giving such an argument?

Shocking, I know, but this seems like a mafia reaction to me. Acknowledge your opponent has a point, but still try to paint your opponent as suspicious for making it. Not liking it.

And then there's just not a lot said about Noonian either way, looks like a light scumread but darth isn't initiating a lot of conversation with Noonian to sort out his read. Especially given how Noonian should be near the top of his suspects list given his reads and the game state information we have, I'm -- surprise -- suspicious of darth here too.


Regarding VA, I'm not sure what you think is wrong with pointing out VA's options. I literally just said why you should still be suspicious regarding VA: He is a smart player. That intelligence can easily make a mafia case out of a weaker town, because a lot of his points are true. That's my whole point! You act like as a town, I have to argue against points that are obviously true (I flip flopped on some votes, I followed people's lead, etc). VA being mafia and my acknowledgement that some of his argument is supported by fact, are not mutually exclusive events. My acknowledgement of SOME of his argument also does not mean that I am mafia. I think it should be clear to you why, at this point.

If you were mafia, and you knew that your name had come up multiple times in the previous vote phase for inactivity, AND people said they were voting for you if you didn't get more active in the next day phase, who would you target? You obviously wouldn't target more or less confirmed town, or some of the more ambiguous people. You have a newer player, who was wishy washy on votes, followed people's leads, and "feigned ignorance" of game mechanics right at your fingers tips. Why wouldn't you go after him first?

The reason I said this could be smart town or smart mafia play, is that it makes sense from both perspectives. From VA town, I look like mistake riddled mafia; from VA mafia, I look like the perfect target to lynch. You might still think that i'm scum, but don't feign ignorance as if my defense makes no sense.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 14 2016 01:19 GMT
#1204
On January 14 2016 09:01 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 08:08 Koshi wrote:
On January 14 2016 08:07 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 14 2016 08:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
and with that flip I now agree with koshi that eden is incredibly suspicous

Lol how does that make sense

Vayne -Master of Pushing Mafia Agenda- Authority

Maybe we lynch Kush tomorrow. I think I can go for that.

One of these days you'll listen to me right away buddy. I got faith in you.

Mafia was largely unsuspected n1. Explains ray dying and explains framing vt. Kush definite mafia IMO.

Darthfoley fits that profile too y'know...

I wonder if anyone else does. Scottkmatt probs. but that's just a crapshoot lynch right now. (Then again so was boxerfred)


Yes, I think it's clear mafia was probably unsuspected N1 given Tubesock's green flip. Let's look at the D1 VCA:

On January 11 2016 07:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Final Vote Count

boxerfred (3): GGTeMpLaR, slOosh, Koshi
Tubesock (2): GiygaS, darthfoley
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
nooniansoong (2): raynpelikoneet, mderg
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred

Not voted (1): Kmatt


Did not receive votes: Rayn (dead VT), darthfoley, mderg, GGTemplar, Eden, Kmatt

Seems like you fit the profile too...

I had two people scum read me iirc: mderg and GGTemplar. That's more suspicion than you had D1, right? I don't even think you can really include those who only got 1 vote in the "suspicious enough to not risk framing a townie N1" pile, because VA, Koshi and slOosh weren't in danger at all late in D1. Even the noonian 2 vote wagon wasn't considered that serious at the time. The voting was all over the place, so while your read is right, it's pretty obvious and doesn't provide much insight whatsoever. Cop could've checked basically anyone given how spread out the voting was.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 14 2016 01:54 GMT
#1206
I do believe that. I'm just saying that his point doesn't really show anything
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 14 2016 22:11 GMT
#1224
Back from a long day.

(Consensus-- this is also me thinking out loud)
Town pile: GiygaS, slOosh, GGTemplar, Eden, Koshi, mderg
Perceived scum pile: me, VA, noonian, scott

I think Eden's defense of Tubesock solidly puts him in the town pile, two are confirmed town, and GGTemplar and Koshi have been town through and through. Out of the town pile, the only person I am not pretty confident about is mderg. While the other players have "signature" town reads/votes/defense, I don't think mderg has had one yet. He's definitely not my lynch target though.

Regarding the other four names, even if we mislynch one or two times, we have a big enough town pile right now that it isn't game breaking. Personally, my naughty list is as follows: scott, Noonian, VA,

I still have no idea where scott stands on anything. His filter is a load of questions that don't really ask anything. His beautiful analysis of the game has resulted in a couple of posts with one-liners that don't clarify anything or challenge anyone. Scott has used the argument of VA, except that VA actually delivered a well thought out and concise argument on why he thought I was scum. Scott hasn't done anything remotely worthy of analysis imo.


Your conf town which upsets me, that you have nothing behind it but "I'd lynch him instead" - I'll flip VT. I don't spam the fucking thread like the others do, I observe, post my thoughts, and go with it - You should find another. Did you even read what I said? What's the mafia motivation? To lynch our red-check? Did you even read the game? I've obs'ed games for almost two years.


Scott hasn't posted any real thoughts or gone with any of them. I can get into Noonian/VA in another post, but I'm taking Koshi's advice about only posting about one person.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 15 2016 02:25 GMT
#1255
In what way could not outting the cop check be more useless than not revealing it?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 15 2016 02:59 GMT
#1257
okay that makes sense to me
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 15 2016 05:55 GMT
#1263
I think we're all in agreement that Eden shouldn't be lynched today lol
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 15 2016 06:25 GMT
#1266
On January 15 2016 15:07 GiygaS wrote:
darth can you give me what exactly is your current position on VA


I'm 50/50 on VA. Part of me thinks that he's potentially luckily evaded cop checks for 2 nights, and has simultaneously flown under the radar with by far the shortest filter. His only real contribution/read on his filter is his case against me. It's not that it's shallow or weak, but that was almost 4 days ago (real time) at this point, which gives me pause. Since, his only posts have been arguments for killing red checked Tubesock, and a very weird comment about Eden post Tubesock green flip. I don't think you can draw alignment much out of the arguments re Tubesock though; most of us agreed it was the safe bet to do.

On January 14 2016 08:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
and with that flip I now agree with koshi that eden is incredibly suspicous


It is kind of out of left field, and he never expands on it so I don't know where he's going with this, or if he still believes it. Getting clarification on this important imo.

On the other hand, I feel like scum VA would've been more active in trying to funnel discussion one way or another by this point in the game. After all, it's D3 and we have a dwindling number of scum suspects left in the game (including him).

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 15 2016 06:29 GMT
#1267
Ironically I think VA becomes more suspicious the more active he gets today, unless his activity is stellar town play
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 15 2016 20:15 GMT
#1291
Lol Noonian is either useless town or obvious mafia. I'm down for lynching Noon
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 16 2016 02:42 GMT
#1299
Well yea, a green check on Koshi is like 99.8% legit unless he's playing 9 levels deep and playing super safe
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 16 2016 22:34 GMT
#1315
I think we get 1 scum with one of these two. I'm more suspicious of Scott, but Noonian has also been so idgaf that he's useless as green, so it's fine with me if he gets lynched.

##Vote: Scott31337
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 16 2016 22:39 GMT
#1317
Regarding the other four names, even if we mislynch one or two times, we have a big enough town pile right now that it isn't game breaking. Personally, my naughty list is as follows: scott, Noonian, VA,

I still have no idea where scott stands on anything. His filter is a load of questions that don't really ask anything. His beautiful analysis of the game has resulted in a couple of posts with one-liners that don't clarify anything or challenge anyone. Scott has used the argument of VA, except that VA actually delivered a well thought out and concise argument on why he thought I was scum. Scott hasn't done anything remotely worthy of analysis imo.

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Your conf town which upsets me, that you have nothing behind it but "I'd lynch him instead" - I'll flip VT. I don't spam the fucking thread like the others do, I observe, post my thoughts, and go with it - You should find another. Did you even read what I said? What's the mafia motivation? To lynch our red-check? Did you even read the game? I've obs'ed games for almost two years.


Scott hasn't posted any real thoughts or gone with any of them.
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