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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 22:32 GMT
#621
READ MY FUCKING EXPLANATION POST GODDAMNIT

on sloosh: posts reads with logic behind them that seems to make sense. Esp. now he seems to be very concerned about where he puts his vote.

on kush: This is admittedly much weaker than sloosh, I kept back and forthing him on my null and towny list while I was making the post. He's basically following the meta around how he plays as town. There's like a direct 1:1 between this post:
On January 09 2016 23:38 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 13:28 GiygaS wrote:
On January 09 2016 13:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2016 13:21 GiygaS wrote:
Fixed formatting
On January 09 2016 13:20 GiygaS wrote:
On January 09 2016 10:34 Koshi wrote:
On January 09 2016 09:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually Koshi why did you pick medic dodge as an example to the named VT question?
It has nothing to do with it.

Cuz I looked at the op and saw that a named vt could mean the difference between a cop and a doc. So mafia would know if they would have to medic dodge.

But the op is for 9 players. didn't see.

This post is weird cause look at the setups, both on page 1 and on page 5 (the actual possibilities):
page 1:
A: 1 Cop, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
B: 1 JK, 6 VTs, 2 Goons
C: 1 Boxer, 6 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF
D: 1 One-shot Cop, 1 JK, 5 VTs, 1 Goon, 1 GF

No named vt here so it can't mean the difference between cop and doc. But he says the op is for 9 players and made a mistake. What?

page 5:
The game setup is one of the following four:
A: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Named VT, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon
B: 8 VT, 1 Cop, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
C: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Doctor, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Godfather, 1 Goon
D: 8 VT, 1 Vigi, 1 Veteran, 1 Framer, 1 Roleblocker, 1 Goon

So I went through the possibilities where named vt is the difference between a cop and a doc. A is the only scenario where it shows up, and cop appears in it and doc doesn't. The only scenario where Doc shows up and cop doesn't is C, but this would mean that either he's mafia and the team setup is RB GF Goon, or he's vig. However, vig cant be his role, because there's no situation where cop and vig are in the same game.


I don't think you should think this is alignment indicative.
Koshi is most likely telling the truth about not reading the setup on p5 (game start) as if he was lying and covering up later he would have covered up properly (he also misread the OP rofl).

So the only conclusion is Koshi was being dumb, as either alignment.

Eh, I'll take it with a grain of salt but I'd be lying if I said it won't affect my view on him looking forward.

I like gigyas as town. Town read started here. This read here is nuanced when scums reads are more cut and dry.

and the last one i played with him
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
January 10 2016 22:32 GMT
#622
Yeah kush is playing exactly the same as last towngame.
I had a good night of sleep.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 22:33 GMT
#623
On January 11 2016 07:29 darthfoley wrote:
I think he implied questioning your reads and their ease when he said that I said all there needs to be said (because I questioned your easy reads)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 10 2016 22:33 GMT
#624
On January 11 2016 07:32 Koshi wrote:
Yeah kush is playing exactly the same as last towngame.

no
table for two on a tv tray
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 10 2016 22:35 GMT
#625
On January 11 2016 07:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 07:32 Koshi wrote:
Yeah kush is playing exactly the same as last towngame.

no

He's at least playing pretty similar to his last towngame
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 10 2016 22:35 GMT
#626
Official Vote Count

boxerfred (4): GGTeMpLaR, mderg, slOosh, Koshi
Tubesock (2): GiygaS, darthfoley
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
VayneAuthority (1): nooniansoong
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred
nooniansoong (1): raynpelikoneet

Not voted (1): Kmatt


Currently, boxerfred is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 22:36 GMT
#627
On January 11 2016 07:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 07:32 Koshi wrote:
Yeah kush is playing exactly the same as last towngame.

no


Noon looks the same as in Nutcracker.
GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
January 10 2016 22:36 GMT
#628
On December 17 2015 02:46 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 02:58 GiygaS wrote:
I'll reread tt filter and see, but all I have is null or town reads on everyone, except a tiny lean on Koshi from meta that I haven't even experienced.


This read on koshi makes me think he's town. It is a very specific type of read. Very nuanced. Scum don't have nuanced reads like that.

It was acutally nutcracker. This was the post I was talking about.
AKA gigyas, gigas, giygas khan, giyga khan, giyga...
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 10 2016 22:37 GMT
#629
No he isn't.
I can tell that from the first 5 posts of him form that game.
table for two on a tv tray
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 10 2016 22:38 GMT
#630
I still think Tubesock is the correct lynch right now
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 10 2016 22:39 GMT
#631
I am 100% going to vote for Tubesock if i can't get people on kush.
table for two on a tv tray
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 22:40 GMT
#632
On January 11 2016 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am 100% going to vote for Tubesock if i can't get people on kush.


Might as well cahnge now, Noon lynch isn't happening.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 10 2016 22:41 GMT
#633
On January 11 2016 07:40 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am 100% going to vote for Tubesock if i can't get people on kush.


Might as well cahnge now, Noon lynch isn't happening.

Neither is GiygaS so your vote is completely useless aswell.
You are not even trying to get people on him.

Fucking these guys are scum. These both guys, kush and this dude are mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
January 10 2016 22:41 GMT
#634
Tubesock, could you give some updated reads on people who are not GiygaS? I'm not sure if trying to rehash it is the best way forward.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 10 2016 22:43 GMT
#635
Koshi you need to believe me. Please.
table for two on a tv tray
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 22:46 GMT
#636
On January 11 2016 07:41 slOosh wrote:
Tubesock, could you give some updated reads on people who are not GiygaS? I'm not sure if trying to rehash it is the best way forward.


Boxer is totally worthless. I have zero reason to think VA is town, but I have reason that he might be beneficial to town (old crappy meta).

I don't really like Rayne right now but that's mostly because I feel he's not trying to read me and OMGUS.

Kmatt is getting modkilled anyway so who cares about him.

I have townreads of varying strengths on everyone else.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
January 10 2016 22:46 GMT
#637
On January 10 2016 23:23 nooniansoong wrote:
I still have to catch up. I was busy yesterday but I will find some time later today

Doesn't basically do anything after that, except for:
On January 11 2016 05:43 nooniansoong wrote:
I'm still comfortable with a vayne lynch despite not being very confident that he's scum.

And VA hasn't posted anything after he scumread him -- like real scumread him, for actual "reasons".
Now they are not reasons anymore???
table for two on a tv tray
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 10 2016 22:46 GMT
#638
Unless i've missed it, Tubesock hasn't provided any reads on anyone outside of GiygaS, excluding the initial early "reads" who deemed to be scummy. He's spent the last day repeating the same argument for only one person.

Like what?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 22:47 GMT
#639
On January 11 2016 07:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 07:40 Tubesock wrote:
On January 11 2016 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am 100% going to vote for Tubesock if i can't get people on kush.


Might as well cahnge now, Noon lynch isn't happening.

Neither is GiygaS so your vote is completely useless aswell.
You are not even trying to get people on him.

Fucking these guys are scum. These both guys, kush and this dude are mafia.


It's literally all I've done this morning and last night. You think me saying he's mafia isn't trying to get him lynched? What?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8001 Posts
January 10 2016 22:47 GMT
#640
Okay nevermind I spoke too soon
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
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