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mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 10 2016 13:28 GMT
#481
##vote Giygas
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 10 2016 14:23 GMT
#482
I still have to catch up. I was busy yesterday but I will find some time later today
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 14:54 GMT
#483
I read everything once fast. Going to do some sports and come back.

Tubesock,
Explain to me how you are playing different than the last game in which you were scum?

If I recall, you were also afk for the longest time, and then you came out the gates swinging with a case on Rels. Bit the same like here with Giygas.

What is different?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 15:18 GMT
#484
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/499399-tl-mafia-lxxiii-the-nutcracker?user=Tubesock

This was that filter...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 15:27 GMT
#485
Giygas is less townie than I expected. But I can see where his enitre "odd townreads" thing came from. They were odd based on thread sentiment. It's not that bad of a point to make.

I am still standing where I was before.



rayn,
Kush is a bad lynch here I think.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 15:29 GMT
#486
No. Giygas is really not mafia. He seems like the last game and it way more likely town from his filter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 15:33 GMT
#487
On January 10 2016 23:54 Koshi wrote:
I read everything once fast. Going to do some sports and come back.

Tubesock,
Explain to me how you are playing different than the last game in which you were scum?

If I recall, you were also afk for the longest time, and then you came out the gates swinging with a case on Rels. Bit the same like here with Giygas.

What is different?


Good question. And I'm taking it as a compliment since I think you towned me there.

These two games are pretty different situations for me though. Last game I was not ever really scum read until the end. At least not scum read enough to feel threatened. I'm also pretty sure I struck first on Rels. The case I made on him I really believed.

When I'm mafia I triple check every post and make sure there is a corresponding quote I can link for everything I say. I think you could argue that last game I was overexplainy (Ritoky made a post about someone being overexplainers anonymous so I started to focus on that too). I'd be shocked if you can find a post that contradicts itself in that game though. Or a read swap on someone without reasons showing transition. Early posts I made sure I didn't have too many tr's (how Rels caught and killed me in the game prior to that) without any scum reads and that I shouldn't go very long without throwing out a read.

I don't really know how or why you should differentiate my game here and the last one. My AFKness should be NAI. I do not have internet access while I work. And due to my schedule it explains why I only get to play a game every couple of months. Much of the time there is a very real mod kill threat. Which is part of why I conceded last game. I was going to be mod killed 3 days after I conceded and I needed 5 or something to win.

I guess a lot of this questioning I'm getting I don't understand.

My entire point is that GiygaS literally did something that town would NEVER do. It's more than just scumreading me. that's not what my point is. It's how and why he did. If he were town, he'd still scum me, but there is no fucking world that exists where town scums me with his reasonings and his world view. Tell me how that's possible?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 15:36 GMT
#488
No. giygas is not mafia.
Do you know how much time there was between the 2 posts from Giygas? It is possible to at first think something is odd but then agree with it later.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 15:37 GMT
#489
Tubesock. Look for somebody else to lynch. I don't want you to stick out on giygas solo.
I had a good night of sleep.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 10 2016 15:40 GMT
#490
On January 10 2016 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 19:14 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/501039-unoriginal-name-mini-mafia?page=13#259

I really liked this read from him

The problem with the read is it doesn't make any sense based on what he said earlier:

- He asks Koshi a question (indicating Koshi could be scum for that), here:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 08:37 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 08:17 Koshi wrote:
I am going to try my hardest this game. Really super super hard.

Why do you want to try hard this game? In your last two town games you opened with how you didn't want to try.

I don't understand why would you EVER ask something from anyone unless you think the answer they give could make them mafia.

- Here is what he says about Koshi's answer:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2016 23:23 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:17 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you?


Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one.


What do you think of Koshi and Giyga?


Koshi null leaning town. Why would he open the opposite of his last two town games if he were scum? Usually people try to emulate their town games as scum.

Gigyas no idea I'd have to filter,

So he comes to the conclusion Koshi's answer is leaning town.
Okay, let's go to the reasoning why he comes to this conclusion, which is the post you pointed out:

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 04:40 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 10 2016 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:23 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:17 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you?


Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one.


What do you think of Koshi and Giyga?


Koshi null leaning town. Why would he open the opposite of his last two town games if he were scum? Usually people try to emulate their town games as scum.

Gigyas no idea I'd have to filter,

Why did you ask Koshi about the bolded part if you think it makes him town anyways?


I like this thoughtful question from rayn.
Actually I didn't know what to think of what koshi said in the moment I asked him about it. I thought to myself.. why would koshi open in the opposite way of his last two games? And I thought him answering my question might help me get a better idea of his motivation behind it. Koshi didn't give me a helpful answer, which in itself made me lean townie on him slightly because he didn't feel the need to satisfy me.

So summa summarium....
Noonian asks Koshi something that could indicate Koshi is mafia. Koshi gives him an answer that doesn't help him in any way, and he comes to the conclusion that it is a TOWNTELL?!?!?

- so scumtell becomes a towntell because the guy doesn't reasonably explain himself.




Another thing is this:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 01:21 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 09 2016 13:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
i suck at mafia but i have one of the best memories on this site. I remember playing mafia with sloosh. " he plays like oatsmaster" is so troll if he actually doesnt remember playing with me lol. Not like it was THAT long ago

most games you do play like oatsmaster though. very little content, mostly one liners, hard to read.


On January 09 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
just sloosh's weird comments and nitpicking completely useless things and telling others to do the work

He's struggling to create a filter

most likely mafia

This is enough to placeholder my vote on vayne.
"weird comments" - it's scummy to call something weird
"nitpicking completely useless things" - it didn't seem any more useless than what other people were talking about at the time
"telling others to do work" - misconstruing asking questions as telling others to do work.
"struggling to create a filter" - this is the kind of generic wording that comes from scum so often. Also I do not understand how someone can draw that conclusion from sloosh's filter.


Plus vayne doubles as a plynch anyway so there's that.

This post is incredibly fishy because of the following:
- He is voting for VayneAuthority as a placeholder
- He is voting for VayneAuthority because he did something scummy
- He is voting for VayneAuthority because he is a good policy lynch

placeholder != scumread != policy lynch

There is literally no way VayneAuthority is all that at the same time. Or like... ugh.. how to explain it.. He is making up reasons for voting for VA, since if you scumread someone as town you vote for them because you think they are scum, NOT because they are a "placeholder vote" or "policy lynch".




Third point is that was basically all his filter.


I'm confused on the first part what you aren't understanding about the progression of that read.
1. koshi's opening is different
2. i inquire about it
3. koshi gives idgaf answer which in itself is minorly townie
3. i think more about his opening, and figure it's minorly townie, entirely apart from the happenings of 2 and 3

Second point placeholder, plynch and scumlynch don't have to be mutually exclusive, especially early in the game when scumreads are weak. Why do thoes motivates behind voting have to be mutually exclusive?

Third point - it's hard for me to get activity in on weekends.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 15:40 GMT
#491
VA, Boxerfred, Sloosh need to be lynched if Tubesock isnt' happening.

Kush is a terrible lynch.
Giygas is just not mafia.

Tubesock is fucking hard to read.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 15:42 GMT
#492
On January 11 2016 00:36 Koshi wrote:
No. giygas is not mafia.
Do you know how much time there was between the 2 posts from Giygas? It is possible to at first think something is odd but then agree with it later.


Why isn't he mafia?

I totally get that it's possible to be "that's weird" and then mull it over and think something else.

What two posts are you talking about? I'm talking about his singular post where he cases me.


Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 15:43 GMT
#493
If people really think Sloosh is town I guess we should go to VA.
Otherwise I suggest Boxerfred.

##unvote
##vote Boxerfred


Meh. 5 names. This Gmatt guy is also still not posting anything................................
I had a good night of sleep.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 10 2016 15:44 GMT
#494
I'll be around for another hour or two before I go to bed won't be around for E.O.D.

I'm probably going to leave my vote on boxerfred unless convinced otherwise.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 15:44 GMT
#495
On January 11 2016 00:42 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2016 00:36 Koshi wrote:
No. giygas is not mafia.
Do you know how much time there was between the 2 posts from Giygas? It is possible to at first think something is odd but then agree with it later.


Why isn't he mafia?

I totally get that it's possible to be "that's weird" and then mull it over and think something else.

What two posts are you talking about? I'm talking about his singular post where he cases me.

The post in which he says that the townreads are odd and then the post in which he calls the same people town. Or was that one post?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 15:45 GMT
#496
I have no reason to believe Tubesock is town though.
I had a good night of sleep.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 10 2016 15:46 GMT
#497
I have been getting a town vibe from Tube's posts.

The other candidate I would be most ok lynching is Sloosh but I think boxer is the best lynch for today.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 15:47 GMT
#498
On January 11 2016 00:40 Koshi wrote:
VA, Boxerfred, Sloosh need to be lynched if Tubesock isnt' happening.

Kush is a terrible lynch.
Giygas is just not mafia.

Tubesock is fucking hard to read.


I'm onboard for the Boxerfred or Kmatt lynch. VA is an ok enough lynch. He'd be number 4 though.

Noon is a terrible lynch. I'd lynch Rayne before Noon.

I don't know how to help you with a meta read, but if you have some other questions I'm around because apparently I'm not sleeping for awhile.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 10 2016 15:48 GMT
#499
Yeah boxerfred is fine. I like it. Going to stick on that for a couple hours. I ll be around EoD.
I had a good night of sleep.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 10 2016 15:48 GMT
#500
I'm simply not convinced about the case on Noon I think he's town.
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