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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 10 2016 12:03 GMT
#461
He said your reads were weird because you called them easy townreads.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 10 2016 12:09 GMT
#462
On January 10 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
You should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. Case should include things like scum claiming, bitching and whining about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when being called out for it bailing scummily. That the dude has only 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe he was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

There is plenty to case Tubesock on beyond just what Darth has said.

Tubesock what is your read on Tubesock?
Do you agree with the quote above?

I also would like to remind you that this is not a joke.
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 12:10 GMT
#463
On January 10 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
You should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. Case should include things like scum claiming, bitching and whining about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when being called out for it bailing scummily. That the dude has only 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe he was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

There is plenty to case Tubesock on beyond just what Darth has said.

Tubesock what is your read on Tubesock?
Do you agree with the quote above?


Until this GiygaS bit, I would have Tubesock as a plynch candidate. In the past when I rolled town, I think there have only been 1 person to read me town in the first 24 hours of the game. Pretty much every other player on this site I've been with scum me. But I project town pretty well after N1. I have every confidence that will happen here as well.

The quote above is wrong, but I can see how you and other believe it.


Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 12:12 GMT
#464
On January 10 2016 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He said your reads were weird because you called them easy townreads.


Who cares if they are easy or not?

Do you give a shit if someone comes up with the same read as you in a very difficult way? They're easy because they were my first and early.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 12:16 GMT
#465
and unlike you, I liked Nooniansoongs question to Koshi about his tryharding / different opening from his last two games. And I like how Noon arrived at his townread of Koshi because he thought that a mafiaKoshi would try to emulate his most recent town games in a forum where so many love meta and his other point that Koshi felt no need to answer him where mafia tends to be more sensitive.

I like that line of thinking. But I also think Koshi's play was within his mafia range. I didn't ask him because I think I can just watch Koshi awhile and see since I can count on him being active.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 10 2016 12:18 GMT
#466
On January 10 2016 21:10 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. Case should include things like scum claiming, bitching and whining about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when being called out for it bailing scummily. That the dude has only 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe he was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

There is plenty to case Tubesock on beyond just what Darth has said.

Tubesock what is your read on Tubesock?
Do you agree with the quote above?


Until this GiygaS bit, I would have Tubesock as a plynch candidate. In the past when I rolled town, I think there have only been 1 person to read me town in the first 24 hours of the game. Pretty much every other player on this site I've been with scum me. But I project town pretty well after N1. I have every confidence that will happen here as well.

The quote above is wrong, but I can see how you and other believe it.

If the quote above is wrong why did you write it?
I have a really really really really hard time seeing why someone.. anyone.. would EVER call himself, any of his posts, scummy. It just doesn't make any fucking sense at all because if you are town IT IS IMPOSSIBLE YOU CAN MAKE SCUMMY POSTS. Last time someone did this we lynched him and he flipped mafia.

On January 10 2016 21:12 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He said your reads were weird because you called them easy townreads.


Who cares if they are easy or not?

Do you give a shit if someone comes up with the same read as you in a very difficult way? They're easy because they were my first and early.

I care if they are easy or not, and everyone else should aswell. "because they were my first and early" doesn't really count as an answer since you made the post after 24hours into the game. Like what are you saying? You don't re-consider your reads at all? If they were early reads why didn't you point out those guys in your opinion are town earlier? Why did you have to wait such a long time instead of trying to move the town into right track and removing mafia possibilities if those reads were easy from the beginning?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 10 2016 12:21 GMT
#467
On January 10 2016 21:16 Tubesock wrote:
and unlike you, I liked Nooniansoongs question to Koshi about his tryharding / different opening from his last two games. And I like how Noon arrived at his townread of Koshi because he thought that a mafiaKoshi would try to emulate his most recent town games in a forum where so many love meta and his other point that Koshi felt no need to answer him where mafia tends to be more sensitive.

And this doesn't make any sense as if you think the green part is correct, then the red part should have never happened in the first place because the conclusion is already there without the question!!!

Also Noonian literally said that's NOT how it went down.
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 12:31 GMT
#468
On January 10 2016 21:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 21:10 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. Case should include things like scum claiming, bitching and whining about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when being called out for it bailing scummily. That the dude has only 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe he was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

There is plenty to case Tubesock on beyond just what Darth has said.

Tubesock what is your read on Tubesock?
Do you agree with the quote above?


Until this GiygaS bit, I would have Tubesock as a plynch candidate. In the past when I rolled town, I think there have only been 1 person to read me town in the first 24 hours of the game. Pretty much every other player on this site I've been with scum me. But I project town pretty well after N1. I have every confidence that will happen here as well.

The quote above is wrong, but I can see how you and other believe it.

If the quote above is wrong why did you write it?
I have a really really really really hard time seeing why someone.. anyone.. would EVER call himself, any of his posts, scummy. It just doesn't make any fucking sense at all because if you are town IT IS IMPOSSIBLE YOU CAN MAKE SCUMMY POSTS. Last time someone did this we lynched him and he flipped mafia.

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 21:12 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He said your reads were weird because you called them easy townreads.


Who cares if they are easy or not?

Do you give a shit if someone comes up with the same read as you in a very difficult way? They're easy because they were my first and early.

I care if they are easy or not, and everyone else should aswell. "because they were my first and early" doesn't really count as an answer since you made the post after 24hours into the game. Like what are you saying? You don't re-consider your reads at all? If they were early reads why didn't you point out those guys in your opinion are town earlier? Why did you have to wait such a long time instead of trying to move the town into right track and removing mafia possibilities if those reads were easy from the beginning?


That's an absolutely absurd thing to say that a towny has never said that their posting looks scummy. There's a fuckign game going on right now where a BLUE fucking basically said this and was lynched. Yeah, NEVER EVER oh wait...

You're thinking that a judgement on a player is constantly a fixed position. That you can't town someone a little bit, not be compelled to say it for many reasons, and that as the game goes on longer that that read doesn't move. You're also not considering that statistically people have pretty low % rates for being right, and that maybe I was happy with seeing more from people. Frankly, I think there is a very small percentage of correct reads from D1. You just don't have any information.

As far as Noon. Well, to me it looked like he saw koshi post, and posted his question before he really thought about it. Later (minutes hours who knows) and came to his conclusion.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 10 2016 12:35 GMT
#469
On January 10 2016 21:10 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. Case should include things like scum claiming, bitching and whining about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when being called out for it bailing scummily. That the dude has only 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe he was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

There is plenty to case Tubesock on beyond just what Darth has said.

Tubesock what is your read on Tubesock?
Do you agree with the quote above?


Until this GiygaS bit, I would have Tubesock as a plynch candidate. In the past when I rolled town, I think there have only been 1 person to read me town in the first 24 hours of the game. Pretty much every other player on this site I've been with scum me. But I project town pretty well after N1. I have every confidence that will happen here as well.

The quote above is wrong, but I can see how you and other believe it.



Was that quote really wrong?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 12:36 GMT
#470
My point about me saying the scummy things of my posts is to point out that GiygaS took the easiest one.

He took the one that was most widely accepted.

Rayne, in what world would you see someone post the same reads as you (before you posted) and go well dude said "easy" so he's scum! Instead of ...wait a minute, hey Tube why are they easy? What's easy mean?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 12:37 GMT
#471
On January 10 2016 21:35 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 21:10 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. Case should include things like scum claiming, bitching and whining about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when being called out for it bailing scummily. That the dude has only 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe he was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

There is plenty to case Tubesock on beyond just what Darth has said.

Tubesock what is your read on Tubesock?
Do you agree with the quote above?


Until this GiygaS bit, I would have Tubesock as a plynch candidate. In the past when I rolled town, I think there have only been 1 person to read me town in the first 24 hours of the game. Pretty much every other player on this site I've been with scum me. But I project town pretty well after N1. I have every confidence that will happen here as well.

The quote above is wrong, but I can see how you and other believe it.



Was that quote really wrong?


It's wrong because when I die I'll flip green. But those are perfectly logical conclusions based on my 3 posts prior.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 10 2016 12:40 GMT
#472
On January 10 2016 21:37 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 21:35 mderg wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:10 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. Case should include things like scum claiming, bitching and whining about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when being called out for it bailing scummily. That the dude has only 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe he was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

There is plenty to case Tubesock on beyond just what Darth has said.

Tubesock what is your read on Tubesock?
Do you agree with the quote above?


Until this GiygaS bit, I would have Tubesock as a plynch candidate. In the past when I rolled town, I think there have only been 1 person to read me town in the first 24 hours of the game. Pretty much every other player on this site I've been with scum me. But I project town pretty well after N1. I have every confidence that will happen here as well.

The quote above is wrong, but I can see how you and other believe it.



Was that quote really wrong?


It's wrong because when I die I'll flip green. But those are perfectly logical conclusions based on my 3 posts prior.

The quote doesn't say you're scum, though. It shows why people should/could have scumread you.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 12:42 GMT
#473
On January 10 2016 21:40 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 21:37 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:35 mderg wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:10 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. Case should include things like scum claiming, bitching and whining about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when being called out for it bailing scummily. That the dude has only 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe he was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

There is plenty to case Tubesock on beyond just what Darth has said.

Tubesock what is your read on Tubesock?
Do you agree with the quote above?


Until this GiygaS bit, I would have Tubesock as a plynch candidate. In the past when I rolled town, I think there have only been 1 person to read me town in the first 24 hours of the game. Pretty much every other player on this site I've been with scum me. But I project town pretty well after N1. I have every confidence that will happen here as well.

The quote above is wrong, but I can see how you and other believe it.



Was that quote really wrong?


It's wrong because when I die I'll flip green. But those are perfectly logical conclusions based on my 3 posts prior.

The quote doesn't say you're scum, though. It shows why people should/could have scumread you.


Ok. So semantics then. What is your question?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 10 2016 12:46 GMT
#474
On January 10 2016 21:42 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 21:40 mderg wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:37 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:35 mderg wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:10 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. Case should include things like scum claiming, bitching and whining about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when being called out for it bailing scummily. That the dude has only 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe he was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

There is plenty to case Tubesock on beyond just what Darth has said.

Tubesock what is your read on Tubesock?
Do you agree with the quote above?


Until this GiygaS bit, I would have Tubesock as a plynch candidate. In the past when I rolled town, I think there have only been 1 person to read me town in the first 24 hours of the game. Pretty much every other player on this site I've been with scum me. But I project town pretty well after N1. I have every confidence that will happen here as well.

The quote above is wrong, but I can see how you and other believe it.



Was that quote really wrong?


It's wrong because when I die I'll flip green. But those are perfectly logical conclusions based on my 3 posts prior.

The quote doesn't say you're scum, though. It shows why people should/could have scumread you.


Ok. So semantics then. What is your question?

Was that quote really wrong?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 12:50 GMT
#475
On January 10 2016 21:46 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 21:42 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:40 mderg wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:37 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:35 mderg wrote:
On January 10 2016 21:10 Tubesock wrote:
On January 10 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should be latching onto the vaqueness of tone and "weird scuzzies" statements that Darth made. Case should include things like scum claiming, bitching and whining about something that probably wasn't going to happen, and then when being called out for it bailing scummily. That the dude has only 3 posts and that each one is the epitome of doing "just enough" to stay under the radar. That maybe he was trying to play up the too scummy to be scum vibe.

There is plenty to case Tubesock on beyond just what Darth has said.

Tubesock what is your read on Tubesock?
Do you agree with the quote above?


Until this GiygaS bit, I would have Tubesock as a plynch candidate. In the past when I rolled town, I think there have only been 1 person to read me town in the first 24 hours of the game. Pretty much every other player on this site I've been with scum me. But I project town pretty well after N1. I have every confidence that will happen here as well.

The quote above is wrong, but I can see how you and other believe it.



Was that quote really wrong?


It's wrong because when I die I'll flip green. But those are perfectly logical conclusions based on my 3 posts prior.

The quote doesn't say you're scum, though. It shows why people should/could have scumread you.


Ok. So semantics then. What is your question?

Show nested quote +
Was that quote really wrong?


I feel like I've answered this question twice. I don't think I'm understanding what you are actually getting at.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 10 2016 13:01 GMT
#476
Let's take the way I saw the quote. Then, was that quote right or wrong?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 13:13 GMT
#477
On January 10 2016 22:01 mderg wrote:
Let's take the way I saw the quote. Then, was that quote right or wrong?


Uh It would be a pretty logical case. And I don't fault anyone for casing me on those points. Hell, if GiygaS did I wouldn't have anything to argue with at all. So, sure it could be right.

Now what?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
January 10 2016 13:25 GMT
#478
Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Koshi, GiygaS, darthfoley
VayneAuthority (2): nooniansoong, slOosh
GiygaS (2): Tubesock, Eden1892
slOosh (1): VayneAuthority
Koshi (1): boxerfred
boxerfred (1): GGTeMpLaR
nooniansoong (1): Raynpelikoneet

Not voted (2): mderg, Kmatt,


Currently, Tubesock is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
January 10 2016 13:25 GMT
#479
I'm going back to bed. Good night.
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
January 10 2016 13:27 GMT
#480
On January 10 2016 22:13 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2016 22:01 mderg wrote:
Let's take the way I saw the quote. Then, was that quote right or wrong?


Uh It would be a pretty logical case. And I don't fault anyone for casing me on those points. Hell, if GiygaS did I wouldn't have anything to argue with at all. So, sure it could be right.

Now what?

Ok, I'm satisfied with that.

That part played a big role in me believing your case on Giygas to be genuine. So your initial response saying the quote was wrong made me reconsider my stance on you.
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