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On January 09 2016 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GiygaS - town
slOosh - scum
mderg - town
Nooniansoong - town
boxerfred - null
Tubesock - scum
Koshi - town
VayneAuthority - town
GGTeMpLaR - null
Kmatt - null
Is there anything we disagree here?
I purposely left darthfoley out because you are questioning him and i don't wanna affect that regardless of my read on him.
u the real mvp 4 the bold homie.
I like these:
GiygaS - town
slOosh - scum
Tubesock - scum
Koshi - town
boxerfred - null
Kmatt - null
though with the caveat that Koshi got some explaining to do about this noonian thing.
I have next to zero opinion on any of Vayne, mderg or noonian. Put a gun to my head and I say "Vayne is town" and "I don't fucking know about the other two, put that gun down bro."
Only thing I see you saying about mderg so far is a tentative town read on him. I think mderg has said nothing to make me feel either way about him. You call him town, is that still "tentative" or did something solidify that for you that I didn't see?
Same question with kushoonian actually.
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oh and ggtemplar leans town. Checks off all the boxes (confident posting, specific questions, blablabla) and is on the same pg as me about slOosh. I get to handwave this read later if slOosh flips town or I decide slOosh is town tho.
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rayn has pretty much been the towniest towner that ever towned so far.
On January 09 2016 13:37 GiygaS wrote:
Currently feeling weird about mderg and sloosh. Sloosh for reasons other people are giving, and I find it weird that mderg showed up, talked about my question (NAI) then peaced out for no good reason.
darth, templar was talking about toning down defending his early reads late in to the game. That post is not going to mean anything d1 if you're just evaluating if he's staying true to it or not.
I might have had one of the best reasons possible to peace out... it was 2am here 
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On January 09 2016 18:27 Eden1892 wrote:
I have next to zero opinion on any of Vayne, mderg or noonian. Put a gun to my head and I say "Vayne is town" and "I don't fucking know about the other two, put that gun down bro."
Only thing I see you saying about mderg so far is a tentative town read on him. I think mderg has said nothing to make me feel either way about him. You call him town, is that still "tentative" or did something solidify that for you that I didn't see?
Same question with kushoonian actually.
yeah actually i don't mderg is town anymore. At the time it had to do with the frequency he responded to the GiygaS "vanilla town" issue and didn't push it further -- as him as kush (noonian) were saying something completely dumb.
I liked kush's question for Koshi at the start of the game. It looked like he was actually trying to play the game. Yes this read is too fading atm... Basically both of this and the mderg reads were somewhat loaded discussion. I don't think they are scum and compared to null/scum reads on my list they look better but i wouldn't exactly call them "town".
However VA is one of my strongest townreads. His play is this normal Vayne "here's what i think -- no bullshit" townplay so far. He posts what he thinks (usually like "i think this guy is scum") without any reasoning and also answers questions when asked about the reads he has. I find this very characteristic to his townplay whereas as scum i can usually tell quite early he is pushing some sort of agenda. I can't see that here.
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Less townreads more scumreads mderg, plz.
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scumreads are the stuff I actually have to think about
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I don't like darthfoley so far because of this:
On January 09 2016 17:13 darthfoley wrote:
For me, I am mainly am just confused as to why he's been reluctant to back off Sloosh after saying he wouldn't target active townspeople on day 1. Maybe he strictly means he won't vote for active townspeople but still target them in discussion, though his grilling of Sloosh followed by a pivot towards a poster with no history seems out of place and too random for my liking.
On January 09 2016 13:33 darthfoley wrote:
I do think it's strange that Templar talks in his opening post about "toning it down a bit" and then doesn't really contribute much, followed by a vote on sloosh. It seems like he's already deviating from the plan he set up an hour ago, leading me to have a scum read on him so far
Feels like the stuff you come up with, if you're trying to scumread someone just for the sake of scumreading people.
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On January 09 2016 19:09 mderg wrote:I don't like darthfoley so far because of this: Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 17:13 darthfoley wrote:
For me, I am mainly am just confused as to why he's been reluctant to back off Sloosh after saying he wouldn't target active townspeople on day 1. Maybe he strictly means he won't vote for active townspeople but still target them in discussion, though his grilling of Sloosh followed by a pivot towards a poster with no history seems out of place and too random for my liking. Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 13:33 darthfoley wrote:
I do think it's strange that Templar talks in his opening post about "toning it down a bit" and then doesn't really contribute much, followed by a vote on sloosh. It seems like he's already deviating from the plan he set up an hour ago, leading me to have a scum read on him so far Feels like the stuff you come up with, if you're trying to scumread someone just for the sake of scumreading people.
This would have been better instead of the first quote
On January 09 2016 16:31 darthfoley wrote:
Koshi trying to sway Rayne's town read on sloosh seems out of place to me, given that Sloosh has been a pretty active poster so far; it contradicts one of his first posts in the game.
Some more explanation:
He scumreads two people for not doing things how they promised to do things. But if you really think about it, scum usually thinks much more about their appearance in things like this and town just plays how they think on the spot. So it actually makes much more sense for town to contradict what they said a few hours before. This makes me think darthfoley didn't think about it and just went: contradiction --> free scumread
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On January 09 2016 13:33 darthfoley wrote:
Hi guys, just got back from The Revenant; it's badass if you're into the genre. A little long at times but Leo + Tom Hardy is great.
Anyhow, excited to play some mafia. This is my first time playing on forums, although I have played a lot of irl mafia so a lot of stuff should transfer hopefully.
Reading through the past 5 pages, so far I am getting a town read from rayne, He seems very logical so far in his thinking of Giygas and sloosh. I agree that Templar's opening was kinda awkward and confusing, but as an inexperienced player I feel where you're coming from.
I do think it's strange that Templar talks in his opening post about "toning it down a bit" and then doesn't really contribute much, followed by a vote on sloosh. It seems like he's already deviating from the plan he set up an hour ago, leading me to have a scum read on him so far
Explain how he's deviating from his plan, because I don't agree.
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On January 09 2016 17:13 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 16:51 Eden1892 wrote:On January 09 2016 16:34 darthfoley wrote:
I'm also voting Koshi as it stands. The more I look at his posts, the less helpful they seem to the Town.
##Vote: Koshi What is unhelpful about Koshi's posts in your own words? As they seem less helpful the more you look at them, I expect that you will be able to explain this pretty easily for this potato townie questioning you. Well, originally I thought that the conversation's direction regarding sloosh was pretty productive. It got him talking, and also gave out a decent amount of info to sift through, which you've courteously done. Out of all the active players so far, I think rayne has been the most town; his posts are well thought out and his questions are inquisitive. So, I looked at Koshi closer because he was one of the adamant Sloosh scum posters next to rayne. For me, I am mainly am just confused as to why he's been reluctant to back off Sloosh after saying he wouldn't target active townspeople on day 1. Maybe he strictly means he won't vote for active townspeople but still target them in discussion, though his grilling of Sloosh followed by a pivot towards a poster with no history seems out of place and too random for my liking. He cites "terrible" reasons that he probably won't remember in the morning, which basically provides no information about anything at all. Why couldn't he include at least an outline of something relevant? I'm unclear on Sloosh, because some of his questioning lacks a clear direction and looks kind of filler. I think Giygas is town as of now. Your point on his intuitive search for more info at the start of the game re game setup is an angle I hadn't thought of.
I feel like you contradict yourself in the two bold statements.
You wonder why he won't back off Sloosh when he says he won't target active towns people.
Then he backs off Sloosh to target inactive towns people.
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What do you think of this contradiction @darth?
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On January 09 2016 16:31 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 08:51 Koshi wrote:
I am also going to make it my policy to not lynch an active player on D1. Going to go for a scummy low amount poster. and if there isn't one, I ll take down the lowest filter. Koshi trying to sway Rayne's town read on sloosh seems out of place to me, given that Sloosh has been a pretty active poster so far; it contradicts one of his first posts in the game. The Noonian vote would make more sense if we'd already gone passed some time for a low poster to be identified, so yea his reads have to be more than simply activity.
You are misrepresenting koshis plan. Just because he doesn't want to lynch someone active why would that affect his reads?
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Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you?
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On January 09 2016 18:33 mderg wrote:rayn has pretty much been the towniest towner that ever towned so far. Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 13:37 GiygaS wrote:
Currently feeling weird about mderg and sloosh. Sloosh for reasons other people are giving, and I find it weird that mderg showed up, talked about my question (NAI) then peaced out for no good reason.
darth, templar was talking about toning down defending his early reads late in to the game. That post is not going to mean anything d1 if you're just evaluating if he's staying true to it or not. I might have had one of the best reasons possible to peace out... it was 2am here
I find this post very scummy.
It feels like you're being excessive with how 'obviously' you know Rayn is town and the word choice of 'towniest towner ever towned' seems contrived, like you're trying to appear silly and nonthreatening.
Also I personally am not so chill when people accuse me of disappearing when I clearly had to go to work/sleep in a game but I don't detect any irritation in your post (unsure what to make of that but it strikes me as weird as well).
On January 09 2016 19:37 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 19:09 mderg wrote:I don't like darthfoley so far because of this: On January 09 2016 17:13 darthfoley wrote:
For me, I am mainly am just confused as to why he's been reluctant to back off Sloosh after saying he wouldn't target active townspeople on day 1. Maybe he strictly means he won't vote for active townspeople but still target them in discussion, though his grilling of Sloosh followed by a pivot towards a poster with no history seems out of place and too random for my liking. On January 09 2016 13:33 darthfoley wrote:
I do think it's strange that Templar talks in his opening post about "toning it down a bit" and then doesn't really contribute much, followed by a vote on sloosh. It seems like he's already deviating from the plan he set up an hour ago, leading me to have a scum read on him so far Feels like the stuff you come up with, if you're trying to scumread someone just for the sake of scumreading people. This would have been better instead of the first quote Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 16:31 darthfoley wrote:
Koshi trying to sway Rayne's town read on sloosh seems out of place to me, given that Sloosh has been a pretty active poster so far; it contradicts one of his first posts in the game.
Some more explanation: He scumreads two people for not doing things how they promised to do things. But if you really think about it, scum usually thinks much more about their appearance in things like this and town just plays how they think on the spot. So it actually makes much more sense for town to contradict what they said a few hours before. This makes me think darthfoley didn't think about it and just went: contradiction --> free scumread
This is a narrative/explanatory post of another's play in quite a bit of detail which I find scummy in-of-itself. Maybe I don't quite understand what your goal is here, so if that's the case feel free to correct me.
With regards to Eden, I just want to trust him as town his posting just gives me vibes of genuine town honestly trying to project town and solve the game. I trust him.
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Quick summary
[g]koshi, eden, rayn[/green]
[r]sloosh, mderg, darth[/red]
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On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you?
Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one.
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On January 09 2016 23:17 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you? Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one.
What do you think of Koshi and Giyga?
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On January 09 2016 23:19 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2016 23:17 nooniansoong wrote:On January 09 2016 23:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Noon any idea what is going on in Koshi's head voting you? Hmm I'm guessing it was the fact that I was posting in another game and ignoring this one. What do you think of Koshi and Giyga?
Koshi null leaning town. Why would he open the opposite of his last two town games if he were scum? Usually people try to emulate their town games as scum.
Gigyas no idea I'd have to filter,
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Check his filter it's not long.
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