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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 23 2015 10:35 GMT
#22
/in
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 24 2015 08:34 GMT
#71
I hope everybody will join the new GreYMisT game soon.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 24 2015 16:10 GMT
#82
Just play. You were quite fantastic in the other game.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 14:55:29
December 25 2015 14:53 GMT
#109
On December 25 2015 05:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
So we have 22 signups. I have decided to wait until boxing day at 3PM PST (Saturday, Dec 26 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)) as my xmas schedule just got real.

I have 20 players in the OP and I don't know what player numbers are balanced. If we get 25 or whatever a normal game is by saturday I'll do that.

Currently the setup is looking like :



Show nested quote +
Original Message From Half the Sky:

town: DT, Vig, JK, mason x2 (confirmed), Miller x2, vanilla x8
mafia: GF, RB, RC, vanilla x2

KP: n1/n2 2kp, 1kp thereafter

Worst case for town: 4 MLs to lose, no JK saves

15:5 ML
14:5 NK x2 and Vig misfire
11:5 ML
10:5 NK x2
8:5 ML
7:5 NK
6:5 lylo

Best case for town, victory after 4 days

15:5 lynch
15:4 NK x1 (JK save) and Vig correctly shoots
14:3 lynch
14:2 NK x1 (JK save)
13:2 lynch
13:1 no deaths (if JK is alive)
13:0 town lynches to win

Longest possible outcome before town loses with 1 JK save, 5 MLs

15:5 ML
14:5 NK x1 (JK save) and Vig correctly shoots
13:4 ML
12:4 NK x2
10:4 ML
19:4 NK
8:4 ML
7:4 NK
6:4 mylo

So basically this is pretty balanced. For mafia i could entertain a 1-shot vig but...50/50 on that. Alternatively you could have a town RB and vet and then can the masons and then you'd have the same effect here. make sure RBs are simultaneous though and vet should be roleblockable.

Let me know what you think.





The official start time for this game will be Saturday, Dec 26 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

I will be accepting signups until then or until the optimal number for a large normal is reached. The complaint period is still active.

Please also note that the FAQ and rules are subject to change prior to game start.

Balance looks fine. I believe the RC is a rolechecker right? Because the 10 vanillas - 5 blues seems strong but ok with rc and rb.
Just a couple thingies, I half-ly read the setup so maybe the thingies are already in place:
1) Unaware Millers obviously
2) mafia kp should be RBable
3) Don't make the game too long. Nobody can/wants to play for 10 cycles. Add a scum vigi and a town N2 vigi or something if it gets too big.
4) RB notified? I think that is not really good in this set-up. You are just going to confirm more townies or you want mafia to start metagaming RBs which they kinda need against this blue army.
5) Confirmed Masons are Innocent Childs. (This means you need to accept and acknowledge that they will be needed to be shot by mafia pretty early, so you limit the mafia shooting freedom, especially with 5 blues.)


6-10000) Please do not modkill people for inactivity if you run a tight normal setup. Replace people who are inactive and have >1 page filter after D2, but do not modkill people instantly for failing to vote after that. Let town solve it.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 25 2015 15:03 GMT
#110
And if the set-up needs to change:
with 5 mafia, town can NEVER lose after 3 ml. In theory, town should always have 4 ml, but a 5th is possible with a bunch of saves in late game. But the 5th ml should be gained by the combination of good town play and bad scumplay.

If too many people join (which is not a bad thing), add more randomness that speeds the game up, like a gunsmith. You can always balance the roles out by making them even or odd nights only. gunsmith promotes good mafia play as well, as a gun can never be given to the smith himself.
Or add delayed vigis.

Mafia can also gain delayed roles or even a gunsmith. Powerful roles mostly add information when they die anyway.



I don't want to have a gunsmith in the game, I just want to point out you might want to speed it up a bit.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 16:57:23
December 25 2015 15:08 GMT
#111
So to be really clear, if you add more randomness:

Town can NEVER EVER FUCKING EVER WITH ALL THE BAD LUCK IN THE FUCKING WORLD lose after 3 ml.
Town should even not lose after a 4th ml, only when mafia hits all nk and vigi shots, and town uses 2 vigis wrong themselves. Then 4 ml + 1 missed vigi shots + 0 saves makes it ok/
Town can gain a 5th ml with even a missed vigi shot in the lategame if town played well and mafia fucked up.

↑For big games only




Please do not be a Blazinghand and create a 25 people game in which town loses if they ml 3 times, even if they ml 3 times and then lynch 4 times correctly after that.
It's like D8 daypost is "Congratz town, you just lynched 4 mafia in a row but you just lost because mafia got too much kp in the start"


and that is why (mafia members alive)/2 is a shitty snowbally way to count kp and should never be used unless you are a brilliant mind.+ Show Spoiler +
<insert easy joke>
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-25 15:14:01
December 25 2015 15:08 GMT
#112
and then people complain I complain during the game because you figured out during the game you fucked up and modkill 4 people and not modkill the person you should modkill and replace him twice and the game ends D4 or something.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 25 2015 15:09 GMT
#113
good times good times.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 26 2015 15:20 GMT
#139
On December 26 2015 13:14 N e s s wrote:
Balanced?

What the heck is balenced?

Lol if only the mafia games i host would get this many players, you guys should play mafia on The Bell Tree forums

or you should host here.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 26 2015 15:50 GMT
#150
On December 27 2015 00:45 GlowingBear wrote:
ARGH. Public display of affection


On December 27 2015 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 00:20 Koshi wrote:
On December 26 2015 13:14 N e s s wrote:
Balanced?

What the heck is balenced?

Lol if only the mafia games i host would get this many players, you guys should play mafia on The Bell Tree forums

or you should host here.


This

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 26 2015 21:41 GMT
#184
perfect mafia play and game ends after the 4th ml and 2 miss shots. So town has 3 ml and 2 shots for information.
But town get rewarded pretty hard for a couple lynches/saves/correct shots.

Might actually be balanced if there aren't +2 modkills.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-26 21:57:21
December 26 2015 21:57 GMT
#192
4/19 roles working against the DT is not that much.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 26 2015 23:28 GMT
#251
I am once again town. Jeez.

How I will play this game:
1) If people call me mafia I will not rage at them. I will simply explain I am not.
2) I will keep my filter really low.


Basically I will play how I would play scum. But then as town.

Why?
Because I need to learn to play under suspicion and be fine with it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 26 2015 23:28 GMT
#253
My scumhunting will probably consist of not reading the thread and find mafia things. It will be glorious.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 26 2015 23:35 GMT
#259
On December 27 2015 08:33 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 08:28 Koshi wrote:
I am once again town. Jeez.

How I will play this game:
1) If people call me mafia I will not rage at them. I will simply explain I am not.
2) I will keep my filter really low.


Basically I will play how I would play scum. But then as town.

Why?
Because I need to learn to play under suspicion and be fine with it.


will it last more than 12 hours this time?

Probably till D4.
I am just really happy this game is balanced. No pressure. Just find 1 mafia in 5 tries. Should be doable.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 26 2015 23:43 GMT
#264
On December 27 2015 08:38 ritoky wrote:
yo koshi, if vivax doesn't have more than 7 posts in the first 30 hours you wanna lynch him with me?

Dumb question.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 00:26 GMT
#305
Let's make it a trio. I like you 2.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 00:28 GMT
#307
On December 27 2015 09:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 09:22 ritoky wrote:
are you really scum reading the guy with 0 posts prior to this game who posted useless stuff and did a jester speculation in an open setup? REALLY?

dumb=/=scum; that guy is ML bait for days.


The questions aren't dumb. They just lead nowhere. Which means he is asking just to have something to post. Trying to be contributive without being contributive. Which is a Mafia trait.

It is a mafia trait if you are a couple days into the game. Asking people their scumreads after 1 page into the game is just dumb.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 00:30 GMT
#309
If I am alive on D4 I will make a game breaking questionnaire. Remind me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 01:05 GMT
#339
To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed.


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.

1) First riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat.

goal:
- A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say)
[image loading]

question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) second riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head.

goal:
- Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9.

[image loading]
question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 01:06 GMT
#340
I forgot who who won it the last time. I think it was one of the hosts.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 01:11 GMT
#341
Looking up the answer gets you a special place in hell obviously.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 01:56 GMT
#373
On December 27 2015 10:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:
To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed.


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.

1) First riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat.

goal:
- A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say)
[image loading]

question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) second riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head.

goal:
- Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9.

[image loading]
question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


1)
The person that can see the 2 hats in front of him yells a color. If he gets it wrong, it means he was already seeing two different colors. This confirms his color as the opposite.
Then the middle guy yells another color based on the color he is seeing in front on him and the other color that is confirmed.

The first person who yells out a color needs to be correct. Otherwise they all die.
On December 27 2015 10:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:
To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed.


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.

1) First riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat.

goal:
- A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say)
[image loading]

question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) second riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head.

goal:
- Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9.

[image loading]
question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) how many hats are there for each color?

This is unknown to the players. Could be 0-9 of each color.
On December 27 2015 10:49 Vivax wrote:
Koshi's riddle #1

If the guy in the middle says the opposite of what he sees in front of him, and then the guy behind him too, the third should know his own color?

1 in front. 3 in back.

#2: I am black -> #1 knows he white
#3: I am white -> # 2 knows he black
#1: knows from #2 hes white

in any other case #3 knows what he is just from the 2 colors in front. My try I guess

In the first riddle the first person who says a color needs to be correct. If he is correct they all are spared.
On December 27 2015 10:51 Vivax wrote:
And in riddle #2 they get told apparently? Or is it a fake tell?

In riddle 2 they don't get told anything except that they have a black or white hat.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 01:56 GMT
#374
It is hard to type out these riddles correctly. :/
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 02:00 GMT
#381
On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:
To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed.


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.

1) First riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat.

goal:
- A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say)
[image loading]

question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) second riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head.

goal:
- Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9.

[image loading]
question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)



+ Show Spoiler +
1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.

In your picture it would be:

Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"


2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.


first one is correct
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 27 2015 02:04 GMT
#387
On December 27 2015 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 10:56 Koshi wrote:
On December 27 2015 10:17 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:
To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed.


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.

1) First riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat.

goal:
- A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say)
[image loading]

question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) second riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head.

goal:
- Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9.

[image loading]
question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


1)
The person that can see the 2 hats in front of him yells a color. If he gets it wrong, it means he was already seeing two different colors. This confirms his color as the opposite.
Then the middle guy yells another color based on the color he is seeing in front on him and the other color that is confirmed.

The first person who yells out a color needs to be correct. Otherwise they all die.
On December 27 2015 10:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:
To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed.


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.

1) First riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat.

goal:
- A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say)
[image loading]

question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) second riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head.

goal:
- Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9.

[image loading]
question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) how many hats are there for each color?

This is unknown to the players. Could be 0-9 of each color.
On December 27 2015 10:49 Vivax wrote:
Koshi's riddle #1

If the guy in the middle says the opposite of what he sees in front of him, and then the guy behind him too, the third should know his own color?

1 in front. 3 in back.

#2: I am black -> #1 knows he white
#3: I am white -> # 2 knows he black
#1: knows from #2 hes white

in any other case #3 knows what he is just from the 2 colors in front. My try I guess

In the first riddle the first person who says a color needs to be correct. If he is correct they all are spared.
On December 27 2015 10:51 Vivax wrote:
And in riddle #2 they get told apparently? Or is it a fake tell?

In riddle 2 they don't get told anything except that they have a black or white hat.


Puzzle can't be solved if they can only say black or white and never move

That is incorrect
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December 27 2015 02:07 GMT
#399
##vote ExO_

Annoys me.
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December 27 2015 02:12 GMT
#410
On December 27 2015 11:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2015 11:00 Koshi wrote:
On December 27 2015 10:25 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:
To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed.


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.

1) First riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat.

goal:
- A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say)
[image loading]

question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)


2) second riddle
setup:
- People can only look forward.
- People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed)
- People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head.

goal:
- Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9.

[image loading]
question:
- How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)



+ Show Spoiler +
1) If the back person sees two of the same colour hat then the puzzle is easy and he can say the opposite. If he sees two different colours such as the picture then he should stay silent which indicates to the second person that there are two different colours. The person in front will be able to see the colour and so can yell out the colour on the top of his head easily.

In your picture it would be:

Back person: *Silence*
Middle person: "Hmm the person in front of me is a white hat which must mean my hat is black!"


2) Are they allowed to formulate a plan beforehand?


Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day.


first one is correct


Since they can come up with a plan beforehand and I presume that they can hear every other person's response then they should formulate the plan that the person with the perfect information (Number 1 in the picture) should sacrifice himself to relay that information to everyone else.

The strategy should be that player 1 says "Black" if he can see an even amount of black hats or "White" if he can see an odd amount of black hats. This way if person 1 is wrong then everyone else can determine the colour of their hat based on how many of each colour they can see and the person 1's fate.

The situation would go as follows:

As person 1 can only see 5 black hats then he should exclaim the aforementioned planned phrase of, "White".

Person 1 does not explode as he has a white hat.

Person 2 now knows there are an odd amount of black hats as Person 1 did not die but can only see 4 black hats, he therefore knows that he has a black hat and shouts, "Black".

!!!
That one was really hard.
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December 27 2015 02:13 GMT
#411
Not voting HF will be such a pain in the ass. Auto vote D4 though.
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December 27 2015 02:18 GMT
#422
On December 27 2015 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 27 2015 09:18 Damdred wrote:
Your right guys I'm 100% wrong. I'm sorry I'll be back later

No youre not wrong.


Been
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December 27 2015 02:18 GMT
#423
Been a while*

happy hunting rayn! I'll be watching.
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December 27 2015 03:05 GMT
#464
Why would anybody use a smurf instead of his main account? Sense it makes none.
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December 27 2015 03:28 GMT
#484
omg... at this rate I cannot learn to cope under suspicion.
Let's wait on Onegu I guess..
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December 27 2015 04:42 GMT
#549
Because everybody is so townie I ended up reading Alakaslam. I was not impressed.
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December 27 2015 04:45 GMT
#552
sleep well sweet prince
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December 27 2015 04:47 GMT
#555
On December 27 2015 13:46 N e s s wrote:
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On December 27 2015 13:39 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:38 Damdred wrote:
I'm kinda sad hf isn't lobbying for me to vote vivax yet, ignored and alone rip.

But seriously I'm not entirely sure that bivax is a good lynch at this moment


You should be voting for Vivax.

Also i understand why you think Vivax is scum, but why are you asking everyone to vote for him?

It is well known that if you can get the person you think is mafia lynched, that you have an enormous penis.
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December 27 2015 04:50 GMT
#558
On December 27 2015 13:49 N e s s wrote:
Just curious, is there a way to know if someone is viewing the thread or no?

No.
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December 27 2015 05:19 GMT
#575
##unvote
##vote Vivax


Now that I can't scumread HF I guess I have to work with him
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December 27 2015 16:32 GMT
#904
On December 27 2015 14:53 Trfel wrote:
I think that Artanis is town for post count. Post count seems to be an extremely huge tell for him.

I don't care if he knows that I will read him based on post count, we both know that he can't keep a high post count as mafia this game The fact that he made this many posts early seems extremely town-motivated to me. I just don't see Artanis doing that as mafia, it's a futile effort that would be irrelevant to his survival (since his activity will drop off).

Call me silly, but I think it's an easy read.

You are silly. Mafia with issues on postcount can keep up early. They struggle later.
On December 27 2015 15:12 N e s s wrote:
Also Slam i can't understand this passive-agressive attitude you're giving me.

good read
I also have no clue what slam is doing.
On December 27 2015 15:46 Alakaslam wrote:
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On December 27 2015 13:11 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:06 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:01 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:48 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i think Trfel is like 100% town based on meta.

its bad to go off of meta.

It's not. And i don't even consider him 100% town. It was just to express -- based on rotoky's read, that if you do go off by meta, as he did, he should come to another conclusion.

Well, it kinda is. You don't know when or how a person thinks. So going off of their experience isn't very smart.

What if he's changed his play style?

But i haven't played any other games with any of you, so i'm going to go ahead and assume that your logic of him being town isn't bad, but it shouldn't be relied on.

Well here is where we disagree..
And it's probably because we have a different definition of what "meta" means.

But let's not argue about this since it is pointless. I can 100% tell i am not going to lynch anyone based on meta, only for what they do / do not do.

Meta means mafia game experience/behaveior traits as mafia/town.

Yeah i wasn't going to argue with you regardless, but i am curious, who do you think is scum at this point?

TT, Vivax, kushmasta maybe (i dont remember his scumr name anymore, noomanoomasomething).
Have you even read my posts at all? I think i have been quite clear in what i think.

Yeah i have been reading your posts, i just wanted your general gathering of who you think is scum.

This subtlety had done it.

Scum players are generally quite a bit better than you may be used to here; that's been mucking with your reasoning and play style.

Assume scum is like 3 steps ahead of us. We might catch them that way.

What are you doing slam? You townread the guy? lol


Page 34. If I read any faster I will skip too much. First lists are coming out it seems. Lists suck. 25 people game. rofl. Nobody cares. Put them on a piece of paper for yourself. Nobody here gives a fuck about townreads xcept mafia. And you make it easy for mafia to see if they can keep you in the thread for future days. Keep it easy to put the idea of a mafia being generally townread into the thread. etcetc

stop being bad.

only scumlists are more interesting.
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December 27 2015 16:39 GMT
#912
On December 27 2015 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 27 2015 21:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Have a random read list cause they're fun.
100% Town forever
Artanis[Xp]
N e s s

Town
Damdred
Trfel
Rsoultin
Alakaslam

Town by association of people I think are town reading them as town and me being a lazy shit
Raynpelikoneet
Onegu

Weak Town
HF
Ritoky
ExO_
Koshi
TickTock

Null
Anyone not in other categories

Weak Mafia
Boxerfred - Made one post and it was bad.
GB - Development on Rso was meh. Seems to be thread cop more than all over the place. Way he engages N e s s doesn't really make much sense to me.

Leaning Mafia
Vivax - doing fuck all, not being remotely tinfoil. Very much out of the ordinary for Vivax.

So you're scum?
This post doesn't make much sense....

Thank you. I was planning to let it slide but that list is the worst I ever saw. The association read was incredible retarded.

##unvote
##vote Artanis





Pro-tip for everybody:
Stop putting green names in lists. How fucking dumb are you?
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December 27 2015 16:45 GMT
#921
On December 27 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On December 27 2015 22:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 22:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 27 2015 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because it looks like you are both reading the thread and not.

That's probably kinda true in the sense that there were like 17 pages to read when I woke up and I kinda read them but did it pretty fast so it's likely not everything actually registered.

So like... the first thing you usually do in any game is to form a read on me. Here you "form" a read on me due to... association?!?!? You completely ignore my scumread however...

Usually, yes. But that's usually because you're actually around for the start of the game. This time, you weren't so I interacted with other people instead. By the time I returned to the thread you were gone so I couldn't interact with you. I know Tina said she can read you very well and she called you town. Townreading her means that's good enough for me and I'm feeling lazy so eh.

As for your scumread, I already told you why I don't think TT is scum.

O rly. And I just saw you were voting TT. I wonder how that will happen.

On December 27 2015 22:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On December 27 2015 22:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 22:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 27 2015 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:15 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:12 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:03 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:45 N e s s wrote:
[quote]
Um, that we were lynching someone with no reason to?


It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from

Food for thought~

Does it really, really matter in the end weather i know or not why were lynching him? If you're so amused by it, could you tell me what the reasoning behind it is?

I'm thinking of you as a lynch candidate. You've been on me since the begining with little reasons, and weather you think i'm scum or not the way you post is making me lean towards you being scum.

Also, i haven't seen any reads from you yet, Who do you think is scum?


It matters because if you ask something you already know the answer, it is, again, you posting just to post, and not actively trying to solve the game. Basically, you are here posting but not towards unveiling people's alignment.

mmmm on the contrary

that is invalid, i just said i didn't know the answer and just asked you.
Did i not just ask you who you think is scum? That's me asking you a question trying to solve the game. It helps to know the opinions of others to know the insight to the game.

please answer my question now.


You know what RVS is but you couldn't that's exactly what moosy's was? I find hard to believe

So Artanis what exactly is different in HF's/GB's questioning on Ness?

This is the only thing GB has "pushed" Ness for after the initial questions. I am like 90% sure if i go to Ness' home forum and pick any mafia game there the game starts with RVS -- which makes this perfectly valid (and unanswered) question.

So, what other difference there is? Is GB pushing Ness as scum rn?

HF made a case on Ness, waited for him to respond to it whilst doing other shit and didn't attempt to bury him. I saw direction which I didn't really see with GB whom had to be reminded to look at him. Whereas HF decided he's probably town, GB's still on the fence but it doesn't feel like he's trying to actually find out N e s s's alignment, more just continuously explaining why he has this minor scumread.

That doesn't answer the question.
What has GB pushed him for after the initial questioning?

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On December 27 2015 14:07 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 14:03 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:45 N e s s wrote:
On December 27 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 27 2015 12:56 N e s s wrote:
Alrighty! So, heres my defense.

First off i’d like to clarify that this is in no way meant to make anyone look like scum.

Can you explain what you hoped to get out of these questions? I understand the first two purely from an analytical standpoint but the last two:


Alright, you really want to know what i hoped to get out of these questions? Some future feedback, a guide to these players thoughts. If you feel like knowing where i originally found this strategy, heres one of the forums i play mafia on.

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?323476-1984-Mafia-Day-One/page7

At this point in the game there had been about half a page of useless posts, if you yourself could not really come up with a person to lynch and your answer provides nothing in terms of a progressive thought what did you hope to achieve by asking people this same question? In your eyes this question should lead to nothing but redundant statements since you yourself could not see anything.


You’re right here, me not being able to come up with a logical lynch reading? Thats true. Honestly i should have thought that question out a bit more. But, wanna know something? Its also true in it of itself. There was no backbone to call someone scum at the time.

but you have currently exclaimed (in fact multiple times) that you are bemused by the fact that people are voting for MoosyDoosy yet this is not a feature in your questions at all.


...smh you know why i didn’t include MoosyGoosey in my questions? No reason to, like i just said. Also when i said “i can’t understand why you guys are lynching mooseygoosey” How does that give you qualms? Hell, in it of itself its me trying to ask everyone WHY they were doing going to lynch mooseygoosey. Might i remind you of this-

Band wagoning early? Thats suspicious.

Why would you band wagon this early with no reads?



Even though i didn’t explicitly say moose in the quote, its still me asking why would you band wagon this early with no reads. Supporting me not wanting to lynch anyone in my questions thread. To which, i recieved this which discontinued me being sus of why people wanted to lynch moose.

Though it's tempting to play with you a little longer, I'll let you in on a secret.

On teamliquid, we usually just banter around a little at the start to get the ball rolling. It gets serious when there's reason to get serious.


If I were to purely judge your game plan by this post alone it would appear that you are trying to ask questions purely for the sake of asking questions (blending in) while not asking the intuitive questions that one in your position should be asking (why are people voting for Moosy?). This speaks to me as a mafia agenda and one which I am inclined to vote for.


this. this rubs me the wrong way.

1)Again, if you don’t understand what i was trying to receive from those questions (which, again, i’ve said if you don’t know click that link above.) Why would you state this when theres already been answers to it?
2)Blending in? How is that blending in when i’ve been active in the thread? I’m posting and asking questions, defending myself and giveing my opinions. Yet, if you think i have a mafia agenda like you say i do(Plus at the time i made the questions was litterally my ONLY post) why are you not voting to lynch me?
3)You say i’m not making intuitive questions when you said my first 2 questions were analytical.

1) Why did you not ask why people were voting for Moosy if you were concerned about this and instead ask people redundant questions?

2) What did you hope the answers from people would reveal?

3) If it was raining on a Tuesday in Spain what shape would a crocodile be if it was square?


Smh answered those first 2 already.

but that 3rd one is a bit of you saying my questions are stupid. Sarcasm at its finest.

But regardless, i don’t think you’re scum flare. You remind me a bit of a friend i have who plays much like you. So, do i think you’re scum? Not at all.


Let me ask you something

What did you not understand on the wagoning on Moosy doosy?

Um, that we were lynching someone with no reason to?


It amuses me that you don't understand the reason behind it when the concept of RVS is well known in the forums you come from

Food for thought~

Does it really, really matter in the end weather i know or not why were lynching him? If you're so amused by it, could you tell me what the reasoning behind it is?

I'm thinking of you as a lynch candidate. You've been on me since the begining with little reasons, and weather you think i'm scum or not the way you post is making me lean towards you being scum.

Also, i haven't seen any reads from you yet, Who do you think is scum?


It matters because if you ask something you already know the answer, it is, again, you posting just to post, and not actively trying to solve the game. Basically, you are here posting but not towards unveiling people's alignment.

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On December 27 2015 14:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I have slight SCUMREADS on you, Tictock (his jokes on hammerig me and stuff seems off, he doesn't seem invested in the game) and ritoky (which I'm not sure anymore)

He keeps pushing him on the same thing without getting anything new, basically. Asking questions that lead nowhere which is basically what he's accusing N e s s of.

2 games ago, town GB was pushing TT the entire time for an opening post. Really hardcore begging people to lynch him.
TT can confirm. I wonder if you know that. Probably not. But being stubborn about an opening post is very town GB by meta.
On December 27 2015 23:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Which applies my other graph's double no..
[image loading]

Having misslynched GB twice in the last 2 games this graph is not correct.

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December 27 2015 17:49 GMT
#1014
rayn is Artanis scum?
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December 27 2015 18:35 GMT
#1080
On December 28 2015 03:01 ExO_ wrote:
I think ness might actually just be stupid

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December 27 2015 18:36 GMT
#1083
On December 28 2015 03:05 N e s s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:03 Holyflare wrote:
can we leave ness alone, I'm pretty sure he's town at this juncture

apparently every time i play mafia people call me out and fuck with me until i get pissed, case proven right now.

You play aggressive as well. fyi.
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December 27 2015 18:42 GMT
#1090
On December 28 2015 03:41 N e s s wrote:
I'm just going to leave for now, this game is too much.

This is true. It is a clusterfuck and nobody should really care till D3.
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December 27 2015 18:44 GMT
#1095
On December 28 2015 03:42 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 03:42 Koshi wrote:
On December 28 2015 03:41 N e s s wrote:
I'm just going to leave for now, this game is too much.

This is true. It is a clusterfuck and nobody should really care till D3.

Really odd post coming from you

I am a totally different Koshi.
Really. Trying to read 15 people D1 is pretty dumb. Just find 1 person who is mafia and roll the dice.

While building a filter that screams "I am town" when the game starts on on D3.


Having +5 pages of filter on D1 is pure madness.
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December 27 2015 18:48 GMT
#1097
On December 28 2015 03:47 N e s s wrote:
WHY i thought voting moose is idiotic because there was nothing to go off of from it.

Honestly why can't people realize that, come the hell on people! You realize that we were voting for someone with no reason to.

THATS why i was keen on not understanding why people were voting for him. I know that RVS means Random voting stage, but come on. I don't even use RVS that often.

People were voting Moosy because he is lynchbait and it is an inside joke. Nothing special.
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December 27 2015 19:43 GMT
#1117
If mafia are the ones shitting up the thread I applaud their tactics.
Guess we will know endgame.

Names of people shitting up thread:
Exo
Ness
Vivax
Holflare


It really sucks I can't vote Holyflare because I would vote him for putting all the focus on being the good guy while solely focussing on the garbage in the thread and taunting even more people to do 0 actual mafia searching.
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December 27 2015 19:44 GMT
#1118
Guess I ll vote Vivax.

R.I.P great Detective.


##unvote
##vote Vivax
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December 27 2015 20:31 GMT
#1131
wow coag is confirmed town. get rekt scum.
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December 27 2015 20:47 GMT
#1143
I am so proud of myself. Crying tears of joy.
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December 27 2015 20:51 GMT
#1145
Slam town.. I don't see that at all this game.
I would actually lynch him.
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December 28 2015 01:02 GMT
#1243
On December 28 2015 09:58 Vivax wrote:
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On December 28 2015 08:57 sicklucker wrote:
anyone want to lynch koshi because I might be open to that


Id rather lynch inactives tbh.
To find out which 1 is mafia we just ask HF who he would lynch among them

wow I even missed that sicklucker post. Sick.
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December 28 2015 11:05 GMT
#1350
The case was good enough to vote you away for. Due to lack of better.
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December 28 2015 12:50 GMT
#1381
The event itself pretty null. Let's say you didn't read your role pm. Could you have done the same? Yes. Let's say you read your role pm. Could you have done it as scum? Sure. Is it more likely you did it as town? Not necessarily.
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December 28 2015 12:51 GMT
#1382
But I agree that it went like you said it went. Very unlikely you read entire thread and would be able to actually come up with that explanation on the spot.
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December 28 2015 13:22 GMT
#1392
A good case is max 3 quotes + reasoning why those quotes comes more likely from mafia than town. If anybody can compile those at the end of each day I can skim everything.

And I probably won't have any cases to read.

Really. Brilliant idea.


Who wants to be my minion?
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December 28 2015 13:28 GMT
#1394
On December 28 2015 22:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax?


I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning.

On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game?


Why would he be town with his posts so far

On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things


To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts


They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought.

Was HF's case that he supposedly didn't understand.
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On December 28 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone summarize the case on Vivax for me? I didn't particularly understand it very well the first time I read it.

He's not posting much and when he is posting it's being a complete non-factor.


That sounds fantastic.
I'm going to double check some stuff.

I basically said the same thing, yet suddenly it's fantastic.

Not reading all posts and not remembering everything is not a mafia trait. Way too much too remember. Way too many variables. We can't lynch mafia D1 in minis, wont lynch them here)

Unless you focus on finding something only mafia would say / do.

These "he plays odd and didn't read thread" cases always end up in town being lynched. Because 3 people make cases like that and eventually we lynch the townie.


Look at how TT/Vivax were wagons 2 games ago and 1 brilliant mind + Show Spoiler +
It was Koshi
had ACTUAL reasons why Chrom was mafia over town... It ended with TT and Vivax having 11 votes combined and Chrom 1. Chrom was mafia and other 2 town. Chrom eventually won the game............
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December 28 2015 13:38 GMT
#1397
On December 28 2015 22:31 nooniansoong wrote:
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On December 28 2015 22:28 Koshi wrote:
On December 28 2015 22:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF why do you make a massive case on town, then vote Vivax?


I'm going to ignore your wording there but the reason is quite simple, I haven't heard a response from the player I'm questioning yet and he's new whereas Vivax is someone I have played with and his responses or lack thereof are far more concerning.

On December 27 2015 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Hi rit can we be town bros this game?


Why would he be town with his posts so far

On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote:
Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he<script id="gpt-impl-0.38516774774958256" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_78.js"></script> a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things


To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts


They are both posts that say absolutely nothing and weigh in to no debate whatsoever, I don't see Vivax sidelining in this situation at all I'd at least expect a reaction to something or an inquisitive line of thought.

Was HF's case that he supposedly didn't understand.
On December 28 2015 00:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 28 2015 00:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Can someone summarize the case on Vivax for me? I didn't particularly understand it very well the first time I read it.

He's not posting much and when he is posting it's being a complete non-factor.


That sounds fantastic.
I'm going to double check some stuff.

I basically said the same thing, yet suddenly it's fantastic.

Not reading all posts and not remembering everything is not a mafia trait. Way too much too remember. Way too many variables. We can't lynch mafia D1 in minis, wont lynch them here)

Unless you focus on finding something only mafia would say / do.

These "he plays odd and didn't read thread" cases always end up in town being lynched. Because 3 people make cases like that and eventually we lynch the townie.


Look at how TT/Vivax were wagons 2 games ago and 1 brilliant mind + Show Spoiler +
It was Koshi
had ACTUAL reasons why Chrom was mafia over town... It ended with TT and Vivax having 11 votes combined and Chrom 1. Chrom was mafia and other 2 town. Chrom eventually won the game............


Thanks for the lectures/brags.
Why aren't you trying to find this game's Chrom?

I don't feel like actively searching. I am following the game but I am not seeing the Chrom yet.
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December 28 2015 13:49 GMT
#1398
Palmar Palm Palmer

Can't you just find us a mafia?
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December 28 2015 14:25 GMT
#1401
Yeah but no. I got soccer today as well. So... I wont even be around at deadline. Starting at 2200. Hmm. Celebrity lynch. I don't even know.
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December 28 2015 15:20 GMT
#1430
On December 28 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote:
I also like how Koshi brags about Chrom but only started to scumread him after I posted him as one of my scumreads.

Then KOshi mislynched me

No. You fucker.

You had 3 scumreads. And you wanted to lynch 2 of them. (those 2 were town (figures))

And I calmly asked you "but what about Chrom Vivax, I think Chrom is the best out of the 3".

And you answered

FUCK YOU KOSHI YOU FUCKING PIECE OF CRAP. I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT CHROM YOU RETARD.

And then I kept asking marv/GB and even you to continue to go for Chrom. I begged everybody. And then 5 mins before EoD I switched to follow marv over GB.



That is exactly how it happened. I would quote the post but I can't because at work.
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December 28 2015 15:22 GMT
#1433
I am lynching Vivax because he is a lying piece of shit. ezgame. Even if it is about a previous game.
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December 28 2015 15:24 GMT
#1435
On December 29 2015 00:23 Vivax wrote:
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On December 29 2015 00:22 Koshi wrote:
I am lynching Vivax because he is a lying piece of shit. ezgame. Even if it is about a previous game.


Try it, I'm the JK

Watch me not care.
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December 28 2015 16:30 GMT
#1492
If anybody is JK you can claim and we lynch Vivax. Second time he bluehunts. Ridiculous how bad he is.

Did I already told you guys the story about how Vivax had 3 scumreads, 2 townies and a mafia, and he didn't want to talk about the mafia but instead insisted on lynching the townies? And then got lynched himself?

That game he played better than here.
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December 28 2015 16:30 GMT
#1493
On December 29 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This post should be rememberd after D1.
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On December 28 2015 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i really think TT is scum because everyone and their mother is willing to lynch Vivax at least on some level but everyone and their mother also refuses to commit on even giving a read on TT.


I doubt it.
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December 28 2015 16:30 GMT
#1494
On December 29 2015 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 29 2015 01:22 nooniansoong wrote:
HF you started out the game so strong and now you've gradually stopped trying.


shocker when 3/4 of the game isn't playing really, just have no motivation to try

75 pages D1.. "nobody is playing"
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December 28 2015 16:32 GMT
#1495
##unvote
## vote TT


But I'll agree it is bad to lynch Vivax without counterclaim. Hopefully jk understands he should claim.
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December 28 2015 16:33 GMT
#1497
And if Vivax is vanilla town and is playing the "I'll take the RB and will continue to be cancer till forever" route, he can die 1000x times.
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December 28 2015 16:41 GMT
#1500
On December 29 2015 01:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 01:30 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is JK you can claim and we lynch Vivax. Second time he bluehunts. Ridiculous how bad he is.

Did I already told you guys the story about how Vivax had 3 scumreads, 2 townies and a mafia, and he didn't want to talk about the mafia but instead insisted on lynching the townies? And then got lynched himself?

That game he played better than here.


Still a better record than all the town on that D1, including u

Oh. Did I mention Vivax was so bad that marv was extremely convinced Vivax was mafia and pushed his lynch?
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December 28 2015 16:42 GMT
#1503
Well it's not like anything else I will do will be productive.
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December 28 2015 16:44 GMT
#1508
On December 29 2015 01:42 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 01:41 Koshi wrote:
On December 29 2015 01:39 Vivax wrote:
On December 29 2015 01:30 Koshi wrote:
If anybody is JK you can claim and we lynch Vivax. Second time he bluehunts. Ridiculous how bad he is.

Did I already told you guys the story about how Vivax had 3 scumreads, 2 townies and a mafia, and he didn't want to talk about the mafia but instead insisted on lynching the townies? And then got lynched himself?

That game he played better than here.


Still a better record than all the town on that D1, including u

Oh. Did I mention Vivax was so bad that marv was extremely convinced Vivax was mafia and pushed his lynch?


Thats just marv being marv, you should know it even with your limited intelligence

w0t?
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December 28 2015 16:53 GMT
#1513
sicklucker is overusing dem smileys. And I don't know if he would go against HF like this as mafia. unless they are buddies.
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December 28 2015 16:59 GMT
#1514
Well seems like he only does that this game.
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December 28 2015 17:25 GMT
#1531
On December 29 2015 02:21 nooniansoong wrote:
Hf thinks my refusal to scumread tt indicates tmi. That implies that tt is town. Now he is sleeping rayn on tt.
That is an inconsistency in hfs reads I would like explained,

How does that inconsistency make hf mafia and TT town?

TownHF can easily do that.



Really poor read kush. Really poor.
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December 28 2015 17:26 GMT
#1533
Kush is mafia or playing bad. Which surprises me because last game he played really good. Dnu. Maybe he is playing good and I don't see it. But his last 2 posts were bad.
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December 28 2015 17:27 GMT
#1535
Dnu. Are we really ever goi g to lynch HF? If he is alive D3+ just autovote and take a break. Pushing the guy is senseless.
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December 28 2015 17:31 GMT
#1540
On December 29 2015 02:29 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:26 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:15 Damdred wrote:
On December 29 2015 01:49 rsoultin wrote:
raaaayn i think art is most likely town and ows is most likely scum where's our disconnect?

if you said it before, i'm sorry, it's just a big thread and my memory's not the best


I think ows is town maybe to though


maybe he is idk, but not cause of rayn's associative reason lol

i'm thinking that hf is playing really blah for someone who had a break...like viva is scum...now that viva isn't scum anyone who defended him had tmi...oh and now i'm gonna pop back to something i mentioned about kush ages ago

pretty lazy

i'm not sure why town hf is this lazy and i know i know i'm probably wasting my breath talking about hf on a d1 but ye

maybe i will vote tt with rayn actually let me check something


I'm sorry and when am I lazy as mafia?


when you come back from a hiatus expecting to roll town in a mini and instead roll scum with a bunch of afkers in a large normal?

it's not a wild thought -shrugs- nor am i saying for sure you're scum but yeah i'm not really that impressed hf sorry to say :/

u serius?
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December 28 2015 17:33 GMT
#1542
Anyway. I am off. Going to do some other shit. Hopefully I dont' return. I expect TT to do shit as either alignment so w.e really. I agree his play was not up to par. If he really shits townie rainbows I suggest Onegu. However he can get shot.
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December 28 2015 17:42 GMT
#1553
On December 29 2015 02:38 Holyflare wrote:
I actually think slam is pretty likely mafia because of how aggro he was to N E S S but all while calling him town?? and also this post:

Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 16:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Argh joining Vivax train until better option becomes viable.


and some other stuff that I forgot

I said this 10 years ago btw.
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December 28 2015 17:43 GMT
#1555
Just saying. So people dont forget.
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December 28 2015 17:53 GMT
#1564
On December 29 2015 02:50 Vivax wrote:
The playerbase likes to be the bitch of british dudes in here

this is true
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December 28 2015 18:06 GMT
#1583
Let's not.
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December 28 2015 18:08 GMT
#1586
No he didnt. That case is bullshit and I am surprised rayn agrees.
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December 28 2015 18:10 GMT
#1591
On December 29 2015 02:47 GlowingBear wrote:
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On December 29 2015 02:39 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 02:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, Palmar, if you hadn't read anything and you didn't catch up, how do you know coag and rsoultin are masons?


This guy probably mafia too tbh.


Who's not Mafia in this game? All you have been doing is pushing a guy that people are telling you you should give him more time for his recent plays, and you keep pushing him until he claims. Then you want to lunch Tictock and ness, who you have been townreading. Why do you want to lynch ness now, Holyflare? What changed?

Nothing in this post even suggest that GB is pushing HF for having the same scumreads. GB says HF wants to lynch townreads.

The part GB says about Vivax is trash though.
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December 28 2015 18:12 GMT
#1598
On December 29 2015 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 03:08 Koshi wrote:
No he didnt. That case is bullshit and I am surprised rayn agrees.

Then what is he saying? Explain it to all of us dumb people please.

Read the post... nothing GB said was about having the same scumreads. HF his case is bullshit because he starts with an hypothesis that is a lie and then proves the lie...
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December 28 2015 18:18 GMT
#1614
On December 29 2015 03:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:08 Koshi wrote:
No he didnt. That case is bullshit and I am surprised rayn agrees.

Then what is he saying? Explain it to all of us dumb people please.

Read the post... nothing GB said was about having the same scumreads. HF his case is bullshit because he starts with an hypothesis that is a lie and then proves the lie...

"classical GB fake mafia anger"

Can somebody point me out where that happened? the post isn't angry at all.
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December 28 2015 18:20 GMT
#1622
On December 29 2015 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 03:14 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:12 Koshi wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 29 2015 03:08 Koshi wrote:
No he didnt. That case is bullshit and I am surprised rayn agrees.

Then what is he saying? Explain it to all of us dumb people please.

Read the post... nothing GB said was about having the same scumreads. HF his case is bullshit because he starts with an hypothesis that is a lie and then proves the lie...


No, GB said that I am mafia because I wanted to push Vivax who ended up being town EVEN THOUGH GB SCUM READ VIVAX TOO all while exploring different people as mafia (who he thought were also mafia) but doing not much about it.

Why would he think this if HE IS ON THE SAME PAGE AS ME????

Why does anyone think "Oh HF thinks all the people I think are mafia but he's not really pushing them he's definitely mafia"?

WHO? Nobody that's who.


^

He said you were mafia because you pushed Vivax even though people said you shouldn't, and then Vivax claimed and he blames you for that.

That part is bullshit. It is not at all your fault Vivax claimed like a doofus.


But what you make of it is a pretty big exaggeration. And it is not that you wouldn't ever bus.
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December 28 2015 18:22 GMT
#1624
Yeah I really disagree with a GB lynch as well. But I like Artanis and Damdred said the exact same thing.
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December 28 2015 18:23 GMT
#1627
On the record: I understand what you people mean about that post.

But to scumread GB for it you need to add a lot of pepper and salt. Which HF did.
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December 28 2015 18:28 GMT
#1643
In my head if TT flips scum HF looks bad.

So

I can understand where GB comes from. As GB has a redread on HF.

Also

GB never tried to actually get HF lynched. He just gave a read. an opinion. And it was not as horrible as HF made it.



Last thing I say about it and I really need to do more fun things.
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December 28 2015 18:29 GMT
#1645
I just want to say I am right about this.
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December 28 2015 18:31 GMT
#1648
Also the fact HF is trying to use his 30 minute vote on TT as prove for everything is just really meh.
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December 28 2015 18:31 GMT
#1650
Last fucking post of this cycle.
I stay on TT because the retarded riddles .
Also not sure at all HF is scum. But that was some shitty play from HF.
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December 28 2015 18:34 GMT
#1657
I am fucking mentally handicapped that I keep refreshing this page.
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December 28 2015 18:51 GMT
#1681
On December 29 2015 03:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF I think GB's scumread on you is nonsensical but I don't think it makes him scum.

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December 28 2015 18:51 GMT
#1683
HF, you probably want to look at Vivax more than GB.
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December 28 2015 18:52 GMT
#1685
On December 29 2015 03:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 03:48 Holyflare wrote:
And yes I still think my piece on Kush is good and it didn't get traction so I decided to back off a bit and observe some more to either confirm or deny my theory. I was hesitant to vote TickTock at that time because my ego is quite large and if Kush was TMI-ing on TT then it would be a redundant vote. People didn't like it so my ego wavered and Rayn posted his case and I agreed with it and remembered the TT catch up and so my mind decided to push my ego out of the way for a bit and sheep a good case.

Now that you have been destroyed, good day to you.


You didn't destroy me, you've just twisted every single argument I've wrote so you can throw it against me.

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December 28 2015 18:56 GMT
#1693
On December 29 2015 03:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 03:51 Damdred wrote:
I sorta agree with art I can see town GB acting this dumb over nai things.


I hate this. It's always this "GB you're dumb", "GB your argument doesn't make sense", then the guy flips mafia.

You guys just don't want to lynch Holyflare because he is Holyflare.

Can you confidently say that HF is more likely mafia than TT?
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December 28 2015 18:57 GMT
#1695
wow people are making sense lately. Xcept HF and GB.
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December 28 2015 18:57 GMT
#1697
If only Chelsea would make a goal :/
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December 28 2015 19:03 GMT
#1705
Yeah I am locked on TT.
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December 28 2015 20:06 GMT
#1801
hahaha ohh. dem taunts.
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December 28 2015 22:01 GMT
#1869
Activily lurking. Other team forfeited.
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December 28 2015 22:17 GMT
#1891
TT, please dont tell me you think you don't deserve to be lynched?
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December 28 2015 22:25 GMT
#1900
On December 29 2015 07:19 Tictock wrote:
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On December 29 2015 07:17 Koshi wrote:
TT, please dont tell me you think you don't deserve to be lynched?


I'm thinking I shouldn't have signed up for this game.

I haven't tried very hard, but does that really mean I should be lynched?

What have I actually done that is scummy?

There was a case on you (ritoky) that people liked and you said:
"I am activily ignoring the case"

That is fucking disgusting and disrespectful to people who try.
And even if I knew you were town I would lynch you for that bullshit.



Aside from that you were afk and didn't bother playing.



Shit happens. But you got to know it is 100% your fault the wagon stayed on you. Maybe not your fault that it started on you, but it is 100% your fault it stayed on you.


Also if you are town, guess what, mafia tries to lynch townies.
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December 28 2015 22:27 GMT
#1906
ofc we lynch tt here. lol. He will never redeem himself.
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December 28 2015 22:31 GMT
#1914
On December 29 2015 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 04:59 Damdred wrote:
On December 29 2015 04:57 The Shining wrote:
On December 29 2015 04:38 ritoky wrote:
On December 29 2015 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##Vote Raynpelikoneet
Clearly misrepresenting Vivax.


what in the fuck?


Wasn't rayn the one who started the TT wagon? Iirc I've seen multiple people mentioning sheeping rayn.

So why is Rayn now off of his own wagon and voting Vivax instead? Like I honestly can't tell if Vivax is actually JK or trolling but his wording for the unclaim seems more like just trying to piss off rayn. But why is rayn ignoring his main wagon(which is now leading) to get off of it and vote Vivax?

Rayn explain?


let me explain before the stampede comes your way.

Rayn hates stupid things, Vivax did a stupid thing. Something he thinks I scum lockable. Vivax did thing, rayn does his thing.


rayn cant think past wifmo aparently

nope. rayn believes it is useless to bother finding mafia if townies are allowed to do the most retarded anti town shit. If people can do what Vivax did anything is always allowed.
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December 28 2015 22:44 GMT
#1952
On December 29 2015 07:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:31 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:30 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:19 ritoky wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:17 sicklucker wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:
the fuck are you doing SL?


trying to get the most likely mafia flip lynched you? tt is a good flip too which makes this a hard battle


getting the guy i made a case on lynched and if not, then shennanying onto actual mafia, not town hf.


I have no idea why you think I'm Mafia, then, and how you can't at least be a little suspicious of HF for everything I have said


How on earth are you still going on about this, you posted your concerns about me being mafia which I have fully addressed and eliminated, what more is there to call me mafia for? You have my perfect thought process outlined right there for you in the thread. This is getting stale and just increases the likelihood of you being actually mafia.


HF I really don't see how you've deconstructed the arguments I wrote. But I can see that if Tictock is town, my argument is moot.

But I can't believe someone who scum reads Tictock isn't at least wary you could be scum.


Where can you not see? You think I've blindly been pushing people for no reason, I outline all the reasons I pushed those people which lines up nicely with a new revelation of information (Vivax revealing he is JK), it's a perfect thought process that eliminates your case entirely and I know that TT is gonna flip mafia and you're just setting it up to push me for it, you've been angling at this for hours.


HAHAHAHA so YOU know that Tictock IS going to flip Mafia but I am setting this up to prove my theory

ROFL

posting this after that listpost is odd
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December 28 2015 22:47 GMT
#1965
talking to slam. lol.

And slam is pretty mafia so that is an ok vote.
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December 28 2015 22:51 GMT
#1977
On December 29 2015 07:47 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 07:46 Damdred wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:44 Holyflare wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:43 Rels wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:42 Rels wrote:
Caught up. Sheeping rayn
##Vote TT


100% scum

You're bad.


nah I agree with 50% of damdred's post


That's not a bad percentage considering I haven't really scum hunted all day.

Also you can't call me bad cause youd id nothing relsyboy

Yep. So your 100% scum call is based on nothing.
Willing to switch on OWS ? Why is he soft attacking me like that while lurking AND voting the same target as I do ?

dumbest read 2015
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December 28 2015 22:52 GMT
#1982
21/20 people voting for the same target and Rels his case is:

"OWS thinks I am mafia for voting with him"
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December 28 2015 22:53 GMT
#1986
"OWS shouldn't think I am mafia because I am voting with him"
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December 28 2015 22:53 GMT
#1990
##unvote
##vote Rels
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December 28 2015 22:54 GMT
#1994
On December 29 2015 07:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On December 29 2015 07:53 Rels wrote:
On December 29 2015 07:52 Koshi wrote:
21/20 people voting for the same target and Rels his case is:

"OWS thinks I am mafia for voting with him"

True this is bad. But I don't remember OWS doing stuff recently, so him being "really" at a sheep post after Damdred said the same thing is suspicious to me. It only makes sense if TT is scum though.


This actually makes even less sense.

+1
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December 28 2015 22:56 GMT
#1997
On December 29 2015 07:55 ritoky wrote:
fuck it i am down to shennanie onto rels. 5 mins left, we got enough willing?

Does it matter? Either he is lynched or otherwise TT is... lol
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Koshi
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December 28 2015 22:59 GMT
#2015
need +1

Some of you are discussing and not doing it

VERY SUSPICIOUS
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December 28 2015 23:08 GMT
#2023
haha. Kinda hilarious cuz he tried to keep up.
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Koshi
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December 28 2015 23:09 GMT
#2026
Yeah, TT did it again probably.
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Koshi
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December 28 2015 23:10 GMT
#2029
tbh I partly did it because in case Rels was mafia there could have been extra information.

And then some of those TT posts made me not really change back.

##unvote
##vote Ticktock

I even had it typed and copied because I somewhat wanted to go back
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Koshi
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December 28 2015 23:13 GMT
#2038
TT also fucked off which I really don't like. lol.
this is bad.
Oh well.
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December 28 2015 23:14 GMT
#2041
On December 29 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote:
Nah HF was trying to save the lynch I goofed and made it so that it wasn't saved.

Now if TT is town a lot of the people who switched vs people who just said fuck it and stayed is interesting.

yeah if tt is town there is good information here.
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Koshi
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December 28 2015 23:15 GMT
#2044
yeah tt can redeem himself.
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December 28 2015 23:19 GMT
#2051
btw. ows is gona be mafia and we lynched rels for saying retarded shit about a mafia.

murphy.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 12:13 GMT
#2283
My filter is too big. I will follow rayn or his list. Looked legit. I will try to make 1 post on D2.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 14:03 GMT
#2289
I am a frothing warhound? I havent done anything.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 16:25 GMT
#2348
wow I am on page 108 and the longer I read the less mafia I am to rayn. Going to stop reading I guess.
I probably skipped all these pages before because at work I am on dota account while at home I can use sc2 account.
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December 29 2015 16:26 GMT
#2350
I also think it is more likely HF and Palmar are mafia than Artanis/Damdred/rayn/ritoky/sicklucker
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December 29 2015 16:28 GMT
#2355
Oh. and the JK should target mafia. I think it is easier to prevent kp and it will confirm mafia.
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December 29 2015 16:29 GMT
#2357
On December 30 2015 01:26 Koshi wrote:
I also think it is more likely HF and Palmar are mafia than Artanis/Damdred/rayn/ritoky/sicklucker

This is such a good post btw.

Because the people on the right are confirmed town. And the people on the left are attacking some if them.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 16:31 GMT
#2358
Onegu,

I read your filter. Are you again trying this game? Because everybody you claim is mafia is town. Well.. you only said something about sicklucker and rsoultin.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 16:32 GMT
#2360
I don't expect to die. But when I do. Poke Onegu. Shoot him or slam next night.
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December 29 2015 16:34 GMT
#2364
On December 30 2015 01:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:29 Koshi wrote:
On December 30 2015 01:26 Koshi wrote:
I also think it is more likely HF and Palmar are mafia than Artanis/Damdred/rayn/ritoky/sicklucker

This is such a good post btw.

Because the people on the right are confirmed town. And the people on the left are attacking some if them.


What happened to kill the vivax cancer your suspects have been promoting along with you

I only mentioned people I respect this game.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 16:36 GMT
#2368
My reads this game are extremely good.
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December 29 2015 16:37 GMT
#2371
On December 30 2015 01:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On December 30 2015 01:34 Holyflare wrote:
So what you're saying is that you are capable as doing it as mafia, okay.

I did 66% of what I've done so far ONCE. I've never even come close to that in the ~12 other mafia games I've played.
It's ridiculous.

Don't talk to the mafia.

It's like Palmar realizing a few pages back your filter is too big to be scum. and now he is still shadowpushing you. it's not even good mafia play.
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December 29 2015 16:38 GMT
#2373
On December 30 2015 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I don't even scum read you tbh I'm just bored

the words starts with a b. but it isn't bored.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 16:39 GMT
#2375
p116 to now. 3 people being dumb who "dont scumread" artanis + artanis
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 16:42 GMT
#2378
Palmar is actually who I will lynch tomorrow.

100% certain.

literally only post I will make from now on till D3.
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December 29 2015 19:54 GMT
#2509
slam is mafia. jeezus.
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December 29 2015 19:56 GMT
#2510
On December 30 2015 04:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Dammit tho rayn is so freaking town this game besides this tinfoil

What does this even mean?

Why was he aggressive towards Ness?

Gives reads but no direction.
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December 29 2015 22:43 GMT
#2523
Damdred is sheeping me.
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December 29 2015 23:17 GMT
#2545
On December 30 2015 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 20:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways, I believe the mafia is:
Palmar
kush --> (shining)
Onegu
Boxerfred
Ness/(tictock)
(Vivax)

I on't think i am going to do anything during this night phase unless something extreme happens.


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December 29 2015 23:17 GMT
#2547
##Vote Palmar
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December 29 2015 23:19 GMT
#2550
On December 30 2015 04:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 04:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 30 2015 04:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 03:55 Palmar wrote:
Stop calling me mafia rayn you might die and the retards might sheep you post death

Lynch Palmar

Artanis

Wassup

You see scum here? The plammer? Palmari Kari?

Lynch Palmar

On December 30 2015 04:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 03:55 Palmar wrote:
Stop calling me mafia rayn you might die and the retards might sheep you post death

Lynch Palmar

On December 30 2015 03:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 03:43 ritoky wrote:
On December 30 2015 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On December 30 2015 03:30 ritoky wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:08 rsoultin wrote:
Town v town

heard it here first :-)


no

Lynch Palmar?


yes

Lynch Palmar!

LynchPalmarLynchPalmarLynchPalmar.

On December 30 2015 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 03:30 ritoky wrote:
On December 30 2015 02:08 rsoultin wrote:
Town v town

heard it here first :-)


no

Lynch Palmar?

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December 29 2015 23:21 GMT
#2554
Nha. I take full credit for this one. I am sure you are mafia.
I actually have a pretty good tell.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:25 GMT
#2564
If real DT can counterclaim that would be nice.
Onegu trowing the game like always if he is dt. but w.e.

I am lynching Palmar.

Insane how bad Onegu is.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:25 GMT
#2565
Like literally fucking unbelievable insane how fucking terrible you are at this game Onegu.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:25 GMT
#2566
Fuck me. How bad.
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December 29 2015 23:26 GMT
#2568
w.e

town can do what they want.

I actually log off.

This is the fucking worst shit I ever saw.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:26 GMT
#2570
Going to check if the fucking mafia copcheck can see millers I guess.
Even though he probably is the fucking dt
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:27 GMT
#2572
Holy fuck.
0 IQ play.
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December 29 2015 23:27 GMT
#2575
In this fucking setup in which almost all green checks are confirmed town you got for the 4/7 redcheck on night 1 claim.


FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:28 GMT
#2578
Yeah you morons can bus now. most powerful town role out the window.

i fucking hope TT is miller.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:28 GMT
#2579
Fucking incapable to make a case. and see connections.
Instead he claims.

100% joke player.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:29 GMT
#2580
it's ok

Out till D25or something.
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December 29 2015 23:37 GMT
#2592
On December 30 2015 08:36 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 08:21 Onegu wrote:
Red Check on TT


Thanks onegu, now I can just read along at my leasure and not worry about these 20 new pages.

Lynch Onegu when I flip miller.

You are even fucking dumber.
Holy fucking moses.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:37 GMT
#2593
Seriously. Are you all retarded or something?
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December 29 2015 23:38 GMT
#2594
honest to god question
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December 29 2015 23:41 GMT
#2602
On December 30 2015 08:39 Tictock wrote:
Actually I'm being stupid, I'm not miller.

Still, lynch Onegu when I flip.

There is no way his claim is legit.

YOU ALREADY GAVE UP THAT THERE WOULD BE A COUNTERCLAIM BUT IN THE SAME BREATH YOU SAID LYNCH ONEGU.

YOU UNDERSTAND HOW FUCKING RETARDED THAT IS RIGHT?


ON 1 HAND YOU SAY:
THERE WONT BE A COUNTERCLAIM

ON THE OTHER HAND
LYNCH ONEGU HE IS SCUM


SO UNLESS YOU WERE THE DT ONEGU CANT EVER BE MAFIA

BUT OFCOURSE YOU CLAIM MILLER
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:42 GMT
#2603
On December 30 2015 08:40 nooniansoong wrote:
I think there's a good chance ticktock isn't mafia but i agree he still has to die.

I fucking hope it with all my hearth
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December 29 2015 23:42 GMT
#2604
I hope it. I so hope it.

pls Jeebus

pls

pls
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December 29 2015 23:44 GMT
#2609
On December 30 2015 08:43 Tictock wrote:
Saying miller was stupid, but I'm blue not red so stuff it.

Lynch me if you need to, but Onegu is 100% mafia.

Your only correct play was to claim dt. You failed.
But sure. try to get another blue claim out of town.

They probably are that retarded to counterclaim jk or gunsmith
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:47 GMT
#2615
pls claim gunsmith.
I want to counterclaim.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:48 GMT
#2618
We fucking lynched Rels over this guy. FUCK me. I AM A FUCKING MORON.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:50 GMT
#2626
On December 30 2015 08:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 08:49 Tictock wrote:
Fine I'm gunsmith.

I hate claims.

Lynch me to prove it I can't pass out anymore guns after this either way.


This is even more hilarious because gunsmiths are 2 shot.

he meant cuz the rb.

seriously.

the level of braindamage in this thread.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:52 GMT
#2631
I hope he is the gunsmith. I really do.
And that he just should have waited on the real DT to claim.

Because as gunsmith Onegu would always have lied and there would be a real DT
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:53 GMT
#2634
No

I hope Onegu is VT fakeclaiming
I hope TT is actual gunsmith
and that the real DT is going to claim soon.



PLEASE.

PLEASE

PLEASE GOD.

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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:55 GMT
#2638
On December 30 2015 08:54 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 08:51 ritoky wrote:
On December 30 2015 08:49 Tictock wrote:
Fine I'm gunsmith.

I hate claims.

Lynch me to prove it I can't pass out anymore guns after this either way.


"I gave a gun to ritoky because..."

finish the claim if you're gonna do it.


Was pretty sure you were town but weren't likely to die.

Somehow i doubt anyone likes my reasoning.

JUST STOP POSTING. YOU ARE A GUNSMITH WHO DIDN4T WAIT ON THE REAL DT TO COUNTERCLAIM A REDCHECK YOU KNOW IS IMPOSSIBLE.


WHY DO YOU BOTHER TO TYPE WORDS?
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:57 GMT
#2642
On December 30 2015 08:56 sicklucker wrote:
are guns not roleblockable? why would two people claim them if they are. would tt really give a gun to hf? that makes 0 sense

you are mafia btw. I knew it when we mindmelded. it makes sense.



Yeah
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December 29 2015 23:57 GMT
#2644
Well. I knew it after the fact there was no fallout.
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December 29 2015 23:58 GMT
#2646
On December 30 2015 08:57 ritoky wrote:
i thought they were immediately usable and claimed it; prob should have conferred with the mod in hindsight as it is only night usable.

Vivax please tell me you are going for brain surgeon?

You would make so much money.
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Koshi
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December 29 2015 23:59 GMT
#2649
On December 30 2015 08:58 sicklucker wrote:
ah? its very important you swine. can you not block guns? you should be able too. Also we dont lynch tt without a counterclaim

moron.

Like.

literally.

moron.


It is the DT who should counterclaim.
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December 29 2015 23:59 GMT
#2650
Like.

at some point it isn't an insult anymore.
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:01 GMT
#2655
On December 30 2015 09:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 09:00 sicklucker wrote:
"If a gunsmith has his power roleblocked, he DOES get his power back."
but i asume that means the shot does not go through


Gunsmiths don't shoot, people that get guns do and those guns can't be rb'd

says who?
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:02 GMT
#2658
hahahahahahahahahahaha
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:03 GMT
#2662
nice try holyflare. I like you.
It doesn't buy you any town points though.
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:06 GMT
#2666
I am actually 100% on sicklucker being mafia now.
the mindmeld thing was superodd. Normally it would mean he is town but I felt oddness.


The hf thing about hf voting tt because hf knew tt needed 2 votes. but after that sicklucker didn't persue hf or tt.

Might even be
hf/tt/sicklucker
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:06 GMT
#2667
sicklucker was way too outraged for that. full on tmi in a game he is not invested in.
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:07 GMT
#2669
On December 29 2015 08:13 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 08:12 Damdred wrote:
Nah HF was trying to save the lynch I goofed and made it so that it wasn't saved.

Now if TT is town a lot of the people who switched vs people who just said fuck it and stayed is interesting.


but if he was trying ot save iy why did he wait untill 10 seconds before deadline ot do it when the tiebreaker matters?

he didnt vote tt untill it was like 9-7 or 8-6 or something. he literally held out untill his vote didnt matter its hard to time but I wouldnt put him past it

On December 29 2015 08:15 sicklucker wrote:
im acualy so sure hf/tt are both mafia the way hf voted. GB WAS RIGHT


way too much tmi.

Maybe not.

Hmmmm

I ll think about it.
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:08 GMT
#2671
No nvm. It doesn't make sense. maybe it is something brilliant.
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:09 GMT
#2673
We will see sl, we will see.

I am going to drop you on the townlist.
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:09 GMT
#2675
Palmar needs to die.
TT is confirmed mafia.
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:10 GMT
#2677
On December 30 2015 09:09 sicklucker wrote:
also can you be more specific with what I have too much tmi. im not even sure I know what your spewing out of your mouth

stfu and don't piss me off.
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:10 GMT
#2678
If I could vote Palmar already for tomorrow I would just afk for 96 hours.
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 00:10 GMT
#2679
Yeah. Let's do that.
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 09:33 GMT
#2782
On December 30 2015 11:02 Tictock wrote:
Yep, my new years gift to you all is an easy obvious lynch today.

I played like shit, I deserve it.

Gunna for reactions to my flip, but we have to wait almost 72 hours... Lame.

is this a scum vigi claim

You played pretty well towards the lynch yesterday. It was on us not lynching you but you showed effort.

wpwp
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 09:37 GMT
#2784
On December 30 2015 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
If I base a scum team solely off of tt's filter it's :


Sl/tt/bf/palmar +2 (probably ness +1 more)


I agree with sl because he was too busy with the TT votes, there was awkwardness around the mindmeld, and he generally has been playing worse than his townplay. Which has been really good lately.

bf is possible. rayn was saying it. So if there is something in addition to that in the tt filter that would be sweet. I have no clue myself about bf.

Palmar is obvious mafia. He kills game solvers and rayn every game as mafia. (inb4 palmar finds 1 game he didn't, truly auto lynch) I also got a insane good mafia tell for palmar, actually based on gameplay.



and there are 5 mafia. 3 down for me.


disclaimer: I am still a bit mehish on the sl read.
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December 30 2015 09:42 GMT
#2787
well.... TT was saved by 3 mafia and me. gg
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December 30 2015 09:43 GMT
#2788
ohyeah. Slam is also mafia.

game is basically won.
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December 30 2015 10:29 GMT
#2795
tt, I don't know if you are retarded. But you do understand that the only way you aren't fucking mafia is if Ness it the DT right?
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Koshi
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December 30 2015 10:35 GMT
#2798
On December 30 2015 19:32 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 19:29 Koshi wrote:
tt, I don't know if you are retarded. But you do understand that the only way you aren't fucking mafia is if Ness it the DT right?

I haven't been keeping track.

Since Damdred claimed GS it seems best for the real cop to not claim actually.

You guys lynch me I flip GS and you all get to lynch Onegu the next day and debate about Damdred.

Cop could easily make it a few more days at this rate.

Cop counterclaims -->We lynch Onegu today

How is it better that you die today? And we lynch Onegu tomorrow.

Come on. Just stop playing till dt claims or you are mafia. Jeezus. This is just stupid.


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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 10:37 GMT
#2799
Also. Even if Ness is dt. It makes 0 sense for Onegu to trade for you.
So pls. Just quit. jeezus.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 12:13 GMT
#2815
I disagree with all those reads.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 13:21 GMT
#2829
Kush do an 180 on all your reads and you solve the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 13:47 GMT
#2832
On December 30 2015 22:46 sicklucker wrote:
koshi im pretty sure your town after reading some of your stupid posts. can we be friends

no you are mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 13:55 GMT
#2834
palmar
bf
slam
tt
kush
sicklucker

Pretty sure all mafia are in there. Xcept when moosey or some other random dude I don't really care about atm is mafia. Will be obvious later anyway.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 14:00 GMT
#2838
On December 30 2015 22:59 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 21:57 Holyflare wrote:
Okay so TT/BF/Palmar are definitely mafia, just saw palmar trying to justify him being town based on mafia nk's which I'm pretty sure he always argues against doing.

Also op was confusing to those that don't read and thought there were 6 mafia but there's 5 so much easier game.

Except im not Mafia and youre making up reaaaaaasons you albus dumbydore

No. I literally said I don't have the slightest idea why you are mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 15:03 GMT
#2846
problem is I had the exact same experience.

ok

maybe HF is mafia then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 15:04 GMT
#2847
Doesnt matter

TT first

Palmar second

AFter that if HF is alive and I am alive I can make an easier decision. A decision I will never have to make.

ezgame ezlife
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 17:15 GMT
#2863
yeah sicklucker is probably town and we need to lynch:
TT
into
Palmar
into
HF

(it might be smart to shoot HF)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 17:48 GMT
#2866
"scummy"

The only reason that is scummy is if you perceive it that he made it to gain maximum credit for a scumlynch. Which is possible but really really blatant obvious. Would be bad mafia play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 17:52 GMT
#2867
Also. If somebody claims DT and damdred retract his gunsmith claim I am not lynching TT.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 17:52 GMT
#2868
cuz that would be fucking retarded.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:15 GMT
#2870
On December 31 2015 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 02:15 Koshi wrote:
yeah sicklucker is probably town and we need to lynch:
TT
into
Palmar
into
HF

(it might be smart to shoot HF)


Have you been hit with a stupid stick? I hammered mafia while you tools got off the wagon. GJ!

Not to mention bf is 100% mafia and you couldn't even give 2 shits to look at the linked games to see the difference between his town play and here.

1) We didn't lynch mafia, you didn't lynch mafia for sure.
2) You did nothing to prevent the swap.
3) You were not on TT, not trying to get him lynched. You were trying to discredit Vivax over TT the entire day. I got a quote in my filter somewhere saying: "If TT is mafia, HF has been protecting him".

sicklucker is town.
bf might be mafia. I have been saying it all along.

But if I am alive after Palmar. I lynch you 100% of the time if you are also alive.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:17 GMT
#2872
Dont' know why you are afraid of me for being D4 lynch while you "hammered" mafia and pointing out obvious mafia bf HF.


Stop being such a sissy. You are not getting lynched till D4. and if you are alive D4 after 2 scumlynches you should be 100% lynched/shot/killed and then another time.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:18 GMT
#2873
official koshi game plan:

Mafia:

1) TT
2) Palmar
3) HF

Then go after the scrubs or the people HF said were mafia in case he isn't
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:18 GMT
#2874
On December 31 2015 03:18 Koshi wrote:
official koshi game plan:

Mafia:

1) TT
2) Palmar
3) HF

Then go after the scrubs or the people HF said were mafia in case he isn't

follow this gameplan and collect easy win.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:20 GMT
#2875
On December 30 2015 01:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2015 01:26 Koshi wrote:
I also think it is more likely HF and Palmar are mafia than Artanis/Damdred/rayn/ritoky/sicklucker

This is such a good post btw.

Because the people on the right are confirmed town. And the people on the left are attacking some if them.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:20 GMT
#2876
I am fucking brilliant


xcept that part in which I didn't lynch TT and instead went for rels
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:23 GMT
#2877
yeah.

Anybody who even dares to attack me from now on is mafia scrubs to be killed after HF died.

cuz

i failed to stay neutral again.

There is always next game I guess.

I tried pretty hard this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:24 GMT
#2880
On December 31 2015 03:23 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
On December 31 2015 02:15 Koshi wrote:
yeah sicklucker is probably town and we need to lynch:
TT
into
Palmar
into
HF

(it might be smart to shoot HF)


Have you been hit with a stupid stick? I hammered mafia while you tools got off the wagon. GJ!

Not to mention bf is 100% mafia and you couldn't even give 2 shits to look at the linked games to see the difference between his town play and here.

okay I'm 100% mafia

What are you willing to bet on that outside of the game?

Why are you talking to him like if he is town?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:24 GMT
#2881
in case hf is town lynch boxerfred 100%
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:25 GMT
#2882
in case hf is mafia lynch bf for being mafia or really bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:26 GMT
#2883
On December 30 2015 21:48 boxerfred wrote:
Lol holyflare sooooo scum


How does this add up ↓↑ ??????????????????????????????????

On December 31 2015 03:23 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 03:08 Holyflare wrote:
On December 31 2015 02:15 Koshi wrote:
yeah sicklucker is probably town and we need to lynch:
TT
into
Palmar
into
HF

(it might be smart to shoot HF)


Have you been hit with a stupid stick? I hammered mafia while you tools got off the wagon. GJ!

Not to mention bf is 100% mafia and you couldn't even give 2 shits to look at the linked games to see the difference between his town play and here.

okay I'm 100% mafia

What are you willing to bet on that outside of the game?

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:27 GMT
#2884
1) YOU ARE MY nr 1 MAFIA READ!!!!!

+

2) WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BET I AM TOWN AND YOUR GENUINE READ ON ME IS WRONG????

=

???
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:28 GMT
#2886
I am nominated this day for pants on head day.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 18:28 GMT
#2887
On December 31 2015 03:28 nooniansoong wrote:
koshi townspam has begun. oh joy.

I am sorry/ no more posts.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 21:26 GMT
#2916
On December 31 2015 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 05:52 Vivax wrote:
You can be sure that if he takes part in an angry mob (not a lynch mob) instead of just pushing his objectives he's mafia.

I actually need to un-TR you kush cause as Koshi said your reads seem to be wrong in every aspect and that's possibly Palmar knowing your tendency to be right as mafia and coaching you to just be as wrong as possible in the qt.

Tinfoily but explains why you seem to be wrong on everything instead of being something in the middle.


Nice way to 100% copy my read bro

As you can see he copies my read.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 21:28 GMT
#2917
On December 31 2015 06:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 06:11 Trfel wrote:
On December 31 2015 06:05 ritoky wrote:
what time exactly does the game get paused for 24 hrs? EoD or?
10 AM Eastern, I believe.

Palmar is funny


thanx.

btw who are your top 2 mafia that aren't named palmar or tt?

6 more people die before we need to pick extra names.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 21:28 GMT
#2918
7 even. tt and palmar counted.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 21:29 GMT
#2919
ohno 9. 2 viges
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 21:58 GMT
#2938
GB isn't mafia in 3000 years
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 22:01 GMT
#2941
slam is mafia.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 22:05 GMT
#2944
On December 29 2015 08:21 GlowingBear wrote:
HF, TT, Palmar, Ness

See you tomorrow.


On December 29 2015 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 08:20 Holyflare wrote:
I think we just lynch slam and shoot tt the night after or something or the other way around probably better


HAHAHA SURE HF

LET'S KEEP THAT GUY ALIVE FOR MORE TIME

ROFL

On December 29 2015 08:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 08:32 Tictock wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:20 Holyflare wrote:
I think we just lynch slam and shoot tt the night after or something or the other way around probably better


HAHAHA SURE HF

LET'S KEEP THAT GUY ALIVE FOR MORE TIME

ROFL


Why not? I'm likely to keep posting and reading the game.

Besides you're being silly that HF and I could be on a team and he tried to get me killed during super last min shenanigans.


1) Did he really try to kill you tho? His vote was made after Rels got 9 votes
2) If he was so certain you should be killed because you are Mafia (and the fact that a shenanigans out of you actually occurred reinforces that you're most likely Mafia), why is he suggesting you should be shot (something that may or may not occur) instead of killing you day2? It doesn't make sense


In the last quote TT trying to argue GB out of a HF/TT scumteam is hilarious. Never ever is GB mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 22:09 GMT
#2947
On December 31 2015 07:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 07:05 Koshi wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:21 GlowingBear wrote:
HF, TT, Palmar, Ness

See you tomorrow.


On December 29 2015 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:20 Holyflare wrote:
I think we just lynch slam and shoot tt the night after or something or the other way around probably better


HAHAHA SURE HF

LET'S KEEP THAT GUY ALIVE FOR MORE TIME

ROFL

On December 29 2015 08:38 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:32 Tictock wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 29 2015 08:20 Holyflare wrote:
I think we just lynch slam and shoot tt the night after or something or the other way around probably better


HAHAHA SURE HF

LET'S KEEP THAT GUY ALIVE FOR MORE TIME

ROFL


Why not? I'm likely to keep posting and reading the game.

Besides you're being silly that HF and I could be on a team and he tried to get me killed during super last min shenanigans.


1) Did he really try to kill you tho? His vote was made after Rels got 9 votes
2) If he was so certain you should be killed because you are Mafia (and the fact that a shenanigans out of you actually occurred reinforces that you're most likely Mafia), why is he suggesting you should be shot (something that may or may not occur) instead of killing you day2? It doesn't make sense


In the last quote TT trying to argue GB out of a HF/TT scumteam is hilarious. Never ever is GB mafia.


Maybe you should read my posts some time to already figure that out. Man you're sheeping an awful lot of my posts today.

bf asked. I answered.

Not my fault everybody knows you are mafia and cba to trust what you say.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 30 2015 22:12 GMT
#2949
We can vote for each other on D4 then.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2015 11:20 GMT
#3024
I am 100% certain slam is mafia.


D3: Slam or Palmar
D4: Holyflare
D5: Probably the guy who didn't get lynched D3
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2015 11:30 GMT
#3025
I won't be around tonight around midnight btw. but soon after. and before it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2015 11:31 GMT
#3026
but yeah... can't let tt survive another time anyway.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2015 12:29 GMT
#3027
On December 31 2015 16:41 Half the Sky wrote:
[b][blue]Day 2 will adjourn for New Year's Eve in on Thursday, Dec 31 3:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

Can't we just have the lynch. I am perfectly fine to start the New Year with a scumlynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2015 12:30 GMT
#3028
Nothing will happen anyway. And same for the night.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 31 2015 12:31 GMT
#3029
Just make it 1 or 2 am CET or something.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2016 23:11 GMT
#3126
Hahahaha. Wp lads.
Modkilling is bullshit. Gj on hosts.

I wont bother playing.

Onegu first.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2016 23:38 GMT
#3163
I ll make one more post.

Even though this was shit dont give up.

Keep lynching mafia.

2 ml is not the worst.

The way it happened might have been mafia showing face to protect powerroles.

If onegu is town we can start panicking.


Mafia:
Palmar 100%
Alakaslam 100%
Onegu 100%

Just 3 free mafia.

Do not yet go for damdred or holyflare.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2016 23:46 GMT
#3170
If Onegu is town. Please keep me alive mafia. I promise I will lynch him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2016 23:46 GMT
#3171
And if Onegu is town I will follow it up with holyflare d4.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2016 00:12 GMT
#3198
I like how hf is pushing mafia agenda like a mad man in case onegu is mafia. He takes all the risk starting the fake claim shit and hf looks everywhere but at Onegu. Hilarious. At least Damdred is going full emo on him so hf needs to find another townie to lynch.

Onegu needs to be lynched first.

Always.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2016 00:14 GMT
#3199
That being said. I hope Onegu is vanilla town. Jeezus already gifted me the tt blue.

I somewhere posted my wishes and they have been granted so far.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2016 00:19 GMT
#3202
That's fine.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 02 2016 00:26 GMT
#3204
I also again want to thank the host for not modkilling for failing to vote in a big game.

I mean it. Nothing would have been different if they voted. Warning into modkill is fine.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 17 2016 01:31 GMT
#5307
GG WP
Thx hosts for great game.

Day 2 was really good from scum due to questionable town play. Palmar not dieing ever is really odd. Didn't read much more.
I had a good night of sleep.
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