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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 00:11 GMT
#4281
Just an FYI that I'm mostly taking other people's words for it that Onegu is town - I have no opinion beyond that.
Retired.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 07 2016 00:11 GMT
#4282
On January 07 2016 09:05 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2016 08:20 Damdred wrote:
Meh onegu just seems super town to me.


outside of mechanics i kinda agree with this. doesn't onegu tend to actually enjoy being mafia more than town? idk his filter isn't really filled with enjoyment tbh, it kinda trends more toward the pissy/not caring side which is the townier side of when he is inactive if i remember right.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=Onegu

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=Onegu&page=5

i just see a lot more joy in these games than onegu has in the current one (he is scum in both of these)


Although I do agree with this to an extent, Onegu himself will tell you metaing him is bad. He did it in a recently ended game. He was also more active and sorta interested in that game and he was town.

I've kinda been playing with tinfoil that Onegu knowing SL is used to his role swapping would rc him n1 and claim TT red check as scum, effectively fooling SL. But then there would be no reason to keep SL alive all the way until last night phase. So it's pretty weak.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 07 2016 00:20 GMT
#4283
On January 07 2016 09:00 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2016 08:49 The Shining wrote:
On January 07 2016 08:43 ExO_ wrote:
On January 07 2016 08:39 The Shining wrote:
On January 07 2016 08:31 ExO_ wrote:
On January 07 2016 08:21 The Shining wrote:
On January 07 2016 07:57 ExO_ wrote:
On January 07 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:
On January 06 2016 23:01 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 06 2016 15:22 The Shining wrote:
lol I love how according to everyone scumming me, I'm apparently bussing the rest of my team since I share a lot of your reads

lolololololololololololololololol


I'm not interacting with you because we aren't on at the same time.
At this point in the game scum has to bus. Scum is going to have a scumlist that has mostly scum with one or two town thrown in there, just because many of the players left look very town.

In the situation where I am scum, wouldn't I also be busing the rest of my team, according to you?


I'm rarely on when anyone else but ppl like ritoky have no problem throwing questions out to me. If anything, doing so and not getting a response from me could make me more scummy for ignoring it or not reading thread. But you haven't done that. You're just content to let me sit there on your POE and hope someone pushes me so you can vote me and say "well he's in my POE, that's why I voted him"

And yes, it's possible you'd be bussing some of your team but I'm not down to 4 ppl on my POE so it's possible I'm wrong on you or someone else. But you have me with 3 people I'm willing to lynch, implying you think you have the game solved alrdy. I'm not nearly that confident and idc about admitting that


And why do you need questions thrown at you? Can you not offer anything without being asked about it?


Can you follow context before you ask a stupid fucking question like this? I don't need questions thrown at me and I never said I did. What I'm saying is, kush claiming he hasn't interacted with me or asked me anything because we're not on at the same time when he has a scum read is bad because it means he just decided to scum me, whereas ritoky actually asked me something. I don't see the town motivation behind "I think he's scum but we're never here together so I'm not going to figure out anything about him or try to get information from him."



Jesus Christ, fuck you dude. I'll ask whatever question I want when I want. If it's too fucking stupid for you then don't answer it


Man, you get really angsty when you roll scum, holy shit. First HF, now me.

Thanks for this. Way to deflect the fact that once again you've completely misunderstood what I've said to go into anger/defensive mode. There is no explanation for multiple outbursts like that if you're town.

Maybe if you didn't misunderstand or misrepresent every fucking thing I say and immediately get defensive and whiny over it, you'd have had a shot at not giving yourself away, scum.


After the game is over, (and if you aren't scum) I want you to apologize. I'm not scum at all and every time I've tried to talk to you, you try to tilt me. After being basically absent all game as well.


I'm not scum but don't hold your breath for an apology, regardless of your alignment.

You've misconstrued and/or misunderstood everything I ever say to you. I say you asked a stupid question because you obviously either didn't understand what I was saying or chose to misrepresent it to fit your narrative of me being scum. I didn't call you stupid. But you did directly decide to curse at me and continually claim I'm trying to tilt you, when the first time was a simple question YOU misunderstood and this time was YOU misunderstanding again. How is that MY fault?


if someone is continually misunderstanding you, it is not always entirely their fault there may be some fault in your communication as well. try rephrasing or saying it differently without insults or personal accusations because when you start using those people start reading emotionally or they continue reading but stop comprehending cuz emotions op. if they are still not getting it then it's on their end or intentional.


I tried this the first time. It's why I got frustrated this time around. I explained myself again regarding the fact that he ignored Trfels scum case on kush and all he could come up with was I'm tilting him and he never responded to my last post. Then he shows up today scumming me(activity, meta, basically omgus), misinterpreted a post of mine AGAIN that wasnt even directed towards him and then flips out on me.

Town can get mad but I don't think this irrationally mad when the misunderstanding is on them. Like wow
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 07 2016 00:32 GMT
#4284
wait a second what if obi is godfather
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 00:32 GMT
#4285
On January 07 2016 09:32 nooniansoong wrote:
wait a second what if obi is godfather


Retired.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
January 07 2016 00:36 GMT
#4286
On January 07 2016 09:32 nooniansoong wrote:
wait a second what if obi is godfather


Your scum read said it's a possibility which is why he wasn't off my POE even though he was probably green checked...

Sigh
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 07 2016 00:40 GMT
#4287
Any sort of cop check can have this wifom.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 07 2016 01:13 GMT
#4288
Vote Count - Day 4


Alakaslam (4): Onegu, Palmar, nooniansoong, Exo_
ObviousOne (1): ObiWanShinobi
ExO_ (1): Alakaslam

Not Voting (6): Damdred, ObviousOne, ritoky, Coagulation, The Shining, NocturneMage

At this time, Alakaslam is slated to be lynched.
Day 4 ends in on Thursday, Jan 07 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 01:27 GMT
#4289
lol I didn't even know that hts was a part of this game.
Well okay then.

I'ma vote Slam since more people are voting him.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
January 07 2016 02:25 GMT
#4290
(Honestly I think they're both scum but to each his own - it seems that that's general consensus now and my will shall be done regardless of the order.)
Retired.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
January 07 2016 06:15 GMT
#4291
On December 31 2015 12:58 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2015 12:56 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 31 2015 12:52 Vivax wrote:
On December 31 2015 12:28 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 31 2015 07:34 Vivax wrote:
The vig targets are also easy: Moosy and Slam.

Because gone or some good reason?


Cuz unreadable

A lot of people seem to disagree on that


Make it easy for me slam, are you town or mafia this game, do you even bother solving it?

interestingly he never answered this question that's something i think he would to react to organically and enthusiastically as town, but instead no reply. indicative of being overall definitely far less engaged, by miles, than some of his recent town games. even his "come at me bro" mode doesn't look quite as enthusiastic here.

engagement down, aggression down, participation down [even when posting]

it's a good lynch, do it

##vote: alakaslam
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-07 11:50:21
January 07 2016 07:54 GMT
#4292
Vote Count - Day 4


Alakaslam (7): Onegu, Palmar, nooniansoong, Exo_, ObiWanShinobi, ObviousOne, NocturneMage
ObviousOne (0): ObiWanShinobi
ExO_ (1): Alakaslam

Not Voting (6): Damdred, ritoky, Coagulation, The Shining

At this time, Alakaslam is slated to be lynched.
Day 4 ends in on Thursday, Jan 07 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
Reminder that voting is mandatory
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2016 10:21 GMT
#4293
Slam is a fine lynch and he isn't doing anything to contest his lynch.


I'm stuck in a conference through today
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2016 13:24 GMT
#4294
Essentially, never lynch Onegu, Damdred, Obi Coag, Me

Probably lynch kush, shining, oo

ritoky, nm exo are the difficult to figure out people.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
January 07 2016 13:32 GMT
#4295
There is a tiny chance damdred should be in the rit/nm/exo group

of that group I'd currently lynch NM. Mostly because half of his reasons aren't reasons at all.
Computer says mafia
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 07 2016 14:35 GMT
#4296
honestly I don't blame you for thinking I'm scum. I just got kind of depressed about being wrong about GB and then trfel so I just want to start a fresh game and try again.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 07 2016 15:06 GMT
#4297
On January 06 2016 13:17 The Shining wrote:
See above for why I think NM is possibly likely to be town out of those 6. The only reason he's not in my town list is because I had an initial scumread on Ness and NM has only mentioned me once in his filter, which was to say my Mon/Tues activity, or lack thereof, is NAI. I'm not sure if it's because of my lack of activity, or because he doesn't want to awaken the sleeping beast that is a tryhard town Shining by trying to push me. But he hasn't read me either way and I'd really like him to do so before this phase ends.


You don't give reasoning for why NM is most likely town, especially since Ness was a scumread.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 07 2016 15:10 GMT
#4298
Alright, finally got caught up to page 150 or around the time I replaced in and started posting.

Incidentally, I found something I think pretty serious in ritoky's filter (case incoming on my next break) and OWS I'm just having a rough time getting a good read on him. My gut call says he's town, but I'll hash out my thoughts on him.

(will get to OO next since a bunch of people seem to be PoEing/split on those two)

ExO_ I think he's a townread for me despite the back and forth with Shining, I think those two are both town just not seeing eye to eye with each other. I liked ExO's vote analysis as well.

Will elaborate on all these in my next few posts.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 07 2016 15:12 GMT
#4299
On January 07 2016 07:59 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2016 06:21 ExO_ wrote:
I think Onegu is scum. His fake claim bullshit on day 2 has let him slide by like Damdred. Only unlike Damdred he hasn't done anything since then. His filter is 4 pages lon<script id="gpt-impl-0.9471382165146065" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_78.js"></script>g, and he has 1 post on the 4th page. He's not doing anything. On day 3 he switched off of Slam and went to GB (this is true of OO and SL as well). If I work with the assumption that Onegu is scum it leads me to the following scum team:

Onegu
Shining
Slam
Kush

Day 3
Kush parks his vote on Slam and never moves it at all. Shining votes for GB, and Onegu moves from Slam to GB. GB never throws his vote on slam (inexplicably). This gets GB lynched, and protects slam for another day.

I think slam is a scum with a role, and I think we should lynch him today.

##Vote Alakaslam


I R VT, I mean Cop. I mean I was Rsouls real mason partner, I mean I am JK, I mean I am scum, I mean I am VT.

I wont do anything until lylo then I will figure the game out. And you fuckers will listen to me. If you need a list of games this year I have figured the game out once I was in lylo I will provide it. My percentage is IS better than the rest of people in finding scum at lylo.


why do you assume town will let this game get to lylo?
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 07 2016 15:23 GMT
#4300
OWS atm I'm having a tough time getting a good solid read tbh, never played with him.

Some posts look townie or at least reasoned out (like post 2125, 2300).

Others look sort of boring, meh, others look shallow but reading more, it just might be his style.

Page 5 of his filter, I am getting a "trying to solve the game" feeling from him, but at the same time there were two posts in 3174/3178 where he disputed why Palmar was scummy.

On January 02 2016 08:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I lied, I'm actually still here.
I just perused OO's, Shining's, and Vivax's filters and haven't had issues with any of them.

Considering Palmar is so high up on everyone's lists and I townread him earlier, can someone explain to me why everyone thinks he's so scummy?

I'll be checking this thread intermittently throughout tonight but I'll try to respond to whoever is still trying to do things.


On January 02 2016 08:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I do remember people saying stuff like "he's not trying to solve the game" but that's mostly rhetoric and a ton of people haven't been doing anything recently.


the problem I have with the second quote here is that the people who are saying stuff like "he's not trying to solve the game" are all dead, and the comments that people had made on early game with reference to Palmar were setting those standards (I believe) early game.

"A ton of people haven't been doing anything recently..." well that's partially because you've just gotten by New Year's Eve, the game started I think the 26th?

So at first, I get the feeling here he might be trying to compare different sets of standards, which looks scummy.

There was another quote he made at ExO where he disputed the NKs implicating Palmar but ExO had only brought up two of the four players that implicated Palmar, so I'm not sure this is alignment indicative.

But on page 6 he's going back and forth about Palmar and he's been conflicted. Post 3592 is a good reason to question Noon on the Palmar's observation on Rels because Palmar comes off as trolling.

OWS's vote on GB I can see why people are arguing its a bus, but when looking at how OWS has grappled with Palmar in a few different ways for several pages of his filter, it's plausible he went for who he felt was the most likely scum. I think he's wrongly townreading Palmar, but taking into context a few times where he said he's mostly skimming the thread from his phone at work, it's possible a town player could miss certain things (and explains his style too).

My gut call on him is town, not a solid read at all but this is what I'm thinking for now.
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