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On January 07 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2016 23:01 nooniansoong wrote:On January 06 2016 15:22 The Shining wrote:
lol I love how according to everyone scumming me, I'm apparently bussing the rest of my team since I share a lot of your reads
lolololololololololololololololol I'm not interacting with you because we aren't on at the same time. At this point in the game scum has to bus. Scum is going to have a scumlist that has mostly scum with one or two town thrown in there, just because many of the players left look very town. In the situation where I am scum, wouldn't I also be busing the rest of my team, according to you? I'm rarely on when anyone else but ppl like ritoky have no problem throwing questions out to me. If anything, doing so and not getting a response from me could make me more scummy for ignoring it or not reading thread. But you haven't done that. You're just content to let me sit there on your POE and hope someone pushes me so you can vote me and say "well he's in my POE, that's why I voted him" And yes, it's possible you'd be bussing some of your team but I'm not down to 4 ppl on my POE so it's possible I'm wrong on you or someone else. But you have me with 3 people I'm willing to lynch, implying you think you have the game solved alrdy. I'm not nearly that confident and idc about admitting that
I do think I have the game solved already. Which is why I post it out here to see if anybody can poke holes in what I have to say and make me reconsider. The only other person I think could be swapped in would be OO for your, but I think you're more likely to be scum than him. That might be because I am somewhat familiar with you, and I might be wrong.
Either way I think it doesn't matter too much just yet. Lynching Slam first will reveal a lot, and from there I can figure out if I am wrong about you or not.
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On January 07 2016 07:56 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2016 07:51 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 07:42 ritoky wrote:On January 07 2016 07:33 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 07:31 ritoky wrote:
1gu is capable of doing nothing as either alignment exo
why am i allowed to shoot if damdred or onegu is mafia? especially since all greens were killed so mafia likely didn't know who was blue at that time (and consequently who to occupy with the rb) walk me through what you're asking here exactly. I know you've talked about it before but walk me through it here the premise you need to accept is this: mafia don't want to risk being 50/50 shot at night or 100/0 shot at night (1st implies 1 of damd/onegu mafia, 2nd implies both). or rather mafia is generally risk averse to put it more simply. if you accept that then here's what follows. damdred and onegu do claim stuffz on TT. TT flips blue, i spend the night blustering a bit like i am going to shoot between the two, damdred encourages me to shoot him or onegu. so that night everything is set up so that (in my mind at least) the mafia team should believe with relative certainty that i am shooting between 1gu and damdred. if that shot is an unfavorable outcome for the mafia team, then they would simply roleblock me. they denied a town kp by lynching TT and denying a second one while potentially saving a teammate is too good of EV for a sensible player to pass up. if me shooting into damdred and 1gu is a favorable outcome aka both are town then it makes perfect sense to leave me unblocked and allow me to shoot a town (and probably subsequently try to ML the other). i thought of this though and mind gamed them, because to me the EV is too high to pass up RBing me if 1 is mafia so basically if i get blocked i confirm at least 1 is mafia, if i don't get blocked i confirm both are town; and so i shoot outside of the two knowing that if block then 1 is mafia, if not block then both are town. It relies on you being right about convincing scum you are going to shoot Damdred or Onegu. I don't really remember at this point how everything went down, but are you sure scum would've believed you? Who claimed first, Damdred or Onegu? gu claimed red, tt claimed gs, damdred cc'd gs. i think i am right.
This is right
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On January 07 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2016 23:01 nooniansoong wrote:On January 06 2016 15:22 The Shining wrote:
lol I love how according to everyone scumming me, I'm apparently bussing the rest of my team since I share a lot of your reads
lolololololololololololololololol I'm not interacting with you because we aren't on at the same time. At this point in the game scum has to bus. Scum is going to have a scumlist that has mostly scum with one or two town thrown in there, just because many of the players left look very town. In the situation where I am scum, wouldn't I also be busing the rest of my team, according to you? I'm rarely on when anyone else but ppl like ritoky have no problem throwing questions out to me. If anything, doing so and not getting a response from me could make me more scummy for ignoring it or not reading thread. But you haven't done that. You're just content to let me sit there on your POE and hope someone pushes me so you can vote me and say "well he's in my POE, that's why I voted him" And yes, it's possible you'd be bussing some of your team but I'm not down to 4 ppl on my POE so it's possible I'm wrong on you or someone else. But you have me with 3 people I'm willing to lynch, implying you think you have the game solved alrdy. I'm not nearly that confident and idc about admitting that
And why do you need questions thrown at you? Can you not offer anything without being asked about it?
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Onegu claims red check on (and therefore claims cop) on tictock right? Thats what started the entire chain of events?
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On January 07 2016 06:21 ExO_ wrote:
I think Onegu is scum. His fake claim bullshit on day 2 has let him slide by like Damdred. Only unlike Damdred he hasn't done anything since then. His filter is 4 pages long, and he has 1 post on the 4th page. He's not doing anything. On day 3 he switched off of Slam and went to GB (this is true of OO and SL as well). If I work with the assumption that Onegu is scum it leads me to the following scum team:
Onegu
Shining
Slam
Kush
Day 3
Kush parks his vote on Slam and never moves it at all. Shining votes for GB, and Onegu moves from Slam to GB. GB never throws his vote on slam (inexplicably). This gets GB lynched, and protects slam for another day.
I think slam is a scum with a role, and I think we should lynch him today.
##Vote Alakaslam
I R VT, I mean Cop. I mean I was Rsouls real mason partner, I mean I am JK, I mean I am scum, I mean I am VT.
I wont do anything until lylo then I will figure the game out. And you fuckers will listen to me. If you need a list of games this year I have figured the game out once I was in lylo I will provide it. My percentage is IS better than the rest of people in finding scum at lylo.
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also exo, i don't think i have ever seen shining go over 7 or 8 pages in filter, so inactivity reading is kinda meh. that said, don't trust me on reading shining i am pretty sure i just call him scum 100% of games and have begun deferring to others for reads on him.
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On January 07 2016 07:58 ExO_ wrote:
Onegu claims red check on (and therefore claims cop) on tictock right? Thats what started the entire chain of events?
yes
On December 30 2015 08:21 Onegu wrote:
Red Check on TT
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So at this point, Onegu (as scum) would be attempting to get TT lynched, and there's no explanation for it. Since TT would likely be lynched anyway, there'd be no need to try to trade to get TT lynched.
hmm....
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On January 07 2016 07:57 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:On January 06 2016 23:01 nooniansoong wrote:On January 06 2016 15:22 The Shining wrote:
lol I love how according to everyone scumming me, I'm apparently bussing the rest of my team since I share a lot of your reads
lolololololololololololololololol I'm not interacting with you because we aren't on at the same time. At this point in the game scum has to bus. Scum is going to have a scumlist that has mostly scum with one or two town thrown in there, just because many of the players left look very town. In the situation where I am scum, wouldn't I also be busing the rest of my team, according to you? I'm rarely on when anyone else but ppl like ritoky have no problem throwing questions out to me. If anything, doing so and not getting a response from me could make me more scummy for ignoring it or not reading thread. But you haven't done that. You're just content to let me sit there on your POE and hope someone pushes me so you can vote me and say "well he's in my POE, that's why I voted him" And yes, it's possible you'd be bussing some of your team but I'm not down to 4 ppl on my POE so it's possible I'm wrong on you or someone else. But you have me with 3 people I'm willing to lynch, implying you think you have the game solved alrdy. I'm not nearly that confident and idc about admitting that I do think I have the game solved already. Which is why I post it out here to see if anybody can poke holes in what I have to say and make me reconsider. The only other person I think could be swapped in would be OO for your, but I think you're more likely to be scum than him. That might be because I am somewhat familiar with you, and I might be wrong. Either way I think it doesn't matter too much just yet. Lynching Slam first will reveal a lot, and from there I can figure out if I am wrong about you or not.
That post was in response to kush but okay.
And for your last post to me, I think you are misrepresenting my meta. The big analysis posts do come from me sometimes, but they are few and far between. And considering I roll town an obscene amount of time, there are def past town games that I've had low activity in like this one.
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Meh onegu just seems super town to me.
Also the shenanigan on slam did not occur until within like the last 5-10 minutes of the day the last vote coming about 1 min before eod and would need gb+1 to hammer slam. Which if slam flips town is scum claim by that person if GB flips scum the next day.
That being said at the time of GB vote pamar is the alternative wagon.
Anyeay its a pointless conversation towards that.
My thing is your post clearly reads that onegu is super scummy but you vote slam setting up a ml tommorow or at least reasoning for it by that post
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On January 07 2016 07:57 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:On January 06 2016 23:01 nooniansoong wrote:On January 06 2016 15:22 The Shining wrote:
lol I love how according to everyone scumming me, I'm apparently bussing the rest of my team since I share a lot of your reads
lolololololololololololololololol I'm not interacting with you because we aren't on at the same time. At this point in the game scum has to bus. Scum is going to have a scumlist that has mostly scum with one or two town thrown in there, just because many of the players left look very town. In the situation where I am scum, wouldn't I also be busing the rest of my team, according to you? I'm rarely on when anyone else but ppl like ritoky have no problem throwing questions out to me. If anything, doing so and not getting a response from me could make me more scummy for ignoring it or not reading thread. But you haven't done that. You're just content to let me sit there on your POE and hope someone pushes me so you can vote me and say "well he's in my POE, that's why I voted him" And yes, it's possible you'd be bussing some of your team but I'm not down to 4 ppl on my POE so it's possible I'm wrong on you or someone else. But you have me with 3 people I'm willing to lynch, implying you think you have the game solved alrdy. I'm not nearly that confident and idc about admitting that And why do you need questions thrown at you? Can you not offer anything without being asked about it?
Can you follow context before you ask a stupid fucking question like this? I don't need questions thrown at me and I never said I did. What I'm saying is, kush claiming he hasn't interacted with me or asked me anything because we're not on at the same time when he has a scum read is bad because it means he just decided to scum me, whereas ritoky actually asked me something. I don't see the town motivation behind "I think he's scum but we're never here together so I'm not going to figure out anything about him or try to get information from him."
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On January 07 2016 08:21 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2016 07:57 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:On January 06 2016 23:01 nooniansoong wrote:On January 06 2016 15:22 The Shining wrote:
lol I love how according to everyone scumming me, I'm apparently bussing the rest of my team since I share a lot of your reads
lolololololololololololololololol I'm not interacting with you because we aren't on at the same time. At this point in the game scum has to bus. Scum is going to have a scumlist that has mostly scum with one or two town thrown in there, just because many of the players left look very town. In the situation where I am scum, wouldn't I also be busing the rest of my team, according to you? I'm rarely on when anyone else but ppl like ritoky have no problem throwing questions out to me. If anything, doing so and not getting a response from me could make me more scummy for ignoring it or not reading thread. But you haven't done that. You're just content to let me sit there on your POE and hope someone pushes me so you can vote me and say "well he's in my POE, that's why I voted him" And yes, it's possible you'd be bussing some of your team but I'm not down to 4 ppl on my POE so it's possible I'm wrong on you or someone else. But you have me with 3 people I'm willing to lynch, implying you think you have the game solved alrdy. I'm not nearly that confident and idc about admitting that And why do you need questions thrown at you? Can you not offer anything without being asked about it? Can you follow context before you ask a stupid fucking question like this? I don't need questions thrown at me and I never said I did. What I'm saying is, kush claiming he hasn't interacted with me or asked me anything because we're not on at the same time when he has a scum read is bad because it means he just decided to scum me, whereas ritoky actually asked me something. I don't see the town motivation behind "I think he's scum but we're never here together so I'm not going to figure out anything about him or try to get information from him."
Jesus Christ, fuck you dude. I'll ask whatever question I want when I want. If it's too fucking stupid for you then don't answer it
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Burn.
Bring your SPF 40 dude.
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On January 07 2016 08:31 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2016 08:21 The Shining wrote:On January 07 2016 07:57 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:On January 06 2016 23:01 nooniansoong wrote:On January 06 2016 15:22 The Shining wrote:
lol I love how according to everyone scumming me, I'm apparently bussing the rest of my team since I share a lot of your reads
lolololololololololololololololol I'm not interacting with you because we aren't on at the same time. At this point in the game scum has to bus. Scum is going to have a scumlist that has mostly scum with one or two town thrown in there, just because many of the players left look very town. In the situation where I am scum, wouldn't I also be busing the rest of my team, according to you? I'm rarely on when anyone else but ppl like ritoky have no problem throwing questions out to me. If anything, doing so and not getting a response from me could make me more scummy for ignoring it or not reading thread. But you haven't done that. You're just content to let me sit there on your POE and hope someone pushes me so you can vote me and say "well he's in my POE, that's why I voted him" And yes, it's possible you'd be bussing some of your team but I'm not down to 4 ppl on my POE so it's possible I'm wrong on you or someone else. But you have me with 3 people I'm willing to lynch, implying you think you have the game solved alrdy. I'm not nearly that confident and idc about admitting that And why do you need questions thrown at you? Can you not offer anything without being asked about it? Can you follow context before you ask a stupid fucking question like this? I don't need questions thrown at me and I never said I did. What I'm saying is, kush claiming he hasn't interacted with me or asked me anything because we're not on at the same time when he has a scum read is bad because it means he just decided to scum me, whereas ritoky actually asked me something. I don't see the town motivation behind "I think he's scum but we're never here together so I'm not going to figure out anything about him or try to get information from him." Jesus Christ, fuck you dude. I'll ask whatever question I want when I want. If it's too fucking stupid for you then don't answer it
Man, you get really angsty when you roll scum, holy shit. First HF, now me.
Thanks for this. Way to deflect the fact that once again you've completely misunderstood what I've said to go into anger/defensive mode. There is no explanation for multiple outbursts like that if you're town.
Maybe if you didn't misunderstand or misrepresent every fucking thing I say and immediately get defensive and whiny over it, you'd have had a shot at not giving yourself away, scum.
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On January 07 2016 08:39 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2016 08:31 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 08:21 The Shining wrote:On January 07 2016 07:57 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:On January 06 2016 23:01 nooniansoong wrote:On January 06 2016 15:22 The Shining wrote:
lol I love how according to everyone scumming me, I'm apparently bussing the rest of my team since I share a lot of your reads
lolololololololololololololololol I'm not interacting with you because we aren't on at the same time. At this point in the game scum has to bus. Scum is going to have a scumlist that has mostly scum with one or two town thrown in there, just because many of the players left look very town. In the situation where I am scum, wouldn't I also be busing the rest of my team, according to you? I'm rarely on when anyone else but ppl like ritoky have no problem throwing questions out to me. If anything, doing so and not getting a response from me could make me more scummy for ignoring it or not reading thread. But you haven't done that. You're just content to let me sit there on your POE and hope someone pushes me so you can vote me and say "well he's in my POE, that's why I voted him" And yes, it's possible you'd be bussing some of your team but I'm not down to 4 ppl on my POE so it's possible I'm wrong on you or someone else. But you have me with 3 people I'm willing to lynch, implying you think you have the game solved alrdy. I'm not nearly that confident and idc about admitting that And why do you need questions thrown at you? Can you not offer anything without being asked about it? Can you follow context before you ask a stupid fucking question like this? I don't need questions thrown at me and I never said I did. What I'm saying is, kush claiming he hasn't interacted with me or asked me anything because we're not on at the same time when he has a scum read is bad because it means he just decided to scum me, whereas ritoky actually asked me something. I don't see the town motivation behind "I think he's scum but we're never here together so I'm not going to figure out anything about him or try to get information from him." Jesus Christ, fuck you dude. I'll ask whatever question I want when I want. If it's too fucking stupid for you then don't answer it Man, you get really angsty when you roll scum, holy shit. First HF, now me. Thanks for this. Way to deflect the fact that once again you've completely misunderstood what I've said to go into anger/defensive mode. There is no explanation for multiple outbursts like that if you're town. Maybe if you didn't misunderstand or misrepresent every fucking thing I say and immediately get defensive and whiny over it, you'd have had a shot at not giving yourself away, scum.
After the game is over, (and if you aren't scum) I want you to apologize. I'm not scum at all and every time I've tried to talk to you, you try to tilt me. After being basically absent all game as well.
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On January 07 2016 08:43 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2016 08:39 The Shining wrote:On January 07 2016 08:31 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 08:21 The Shining wrote:On January 07 2016 07:57 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:On January 06 2016 23:01 nooniansoong wrote:On January 06 2016 15:22 The Shining wrote:
lol I love how according to everyone scumming me, I'm apparently bussing the rest of my team since I share a lot of your reads
lolololololololololololololololol I'm not interacting with you because we aren't on at the same time. At this point in the game scum has to bus. Scum is going to have a scumlist that has mostly scum with one or two town thrown in there, just because many of the players left look very town. In the situation where I am scum, wouldn't I also be busing the rest of my team, according to you? I'm rarely on when anyone else but ppl like ritoky have no problem throwing questions out to me. If anything, doing so and not getting a response from me could make me more scummy for ignoring it or not reading thread. But you haven't done that. You're just content to let me sit there on your POE and hope someone pushes me so you can vote me and say "well he's in my POE, that's why I voted him" And yes, it's possible you'd be bussing some of your team but I'm not down to 4 ppl on my POE so it's possible I'm wrong on you or someone else. But you have me with 3 people I'm willing to lynch, implying you think you have the game solved alrdy. I'm not nearly that confident and idc about admitting that And why do you need questions thrown at you? Can you not offer anything without being asked about it? Can you follow context before you ask a stupid fucking question like this? I don't need questions thrown at me and I never said I did. What I'm saying is, kush claiming he hasn't interacted with me or asked me anything because we're not on at the same time when he has a scum read is bad because it means he just decided to scum me, whereas ritoky actually asked me something. I don't see the town motivation behind "I think he's scum but we're never here together so I'm not going to figure out anything about him or try to get information from him." Jesus Christ, fuck you dude. I'll ask whatever question I want when I want. If it's too fucking stupid for you then don't answer it Man, you get really angsty when you roll scum, holy shit. First HF, now me. Thanks for this. Way to deflect the fact that once again you've completely misunderstood what I've said to go into anger/defensive mode. There is no explanation for multiple outbursts like that if you're town. Maybe if you didn't misunderstand or misrepresent every fucking thing I say and immediately get defensive and whiny over it, you'd have had a shot at not giving yourself away, scum. After the game is over, (and if you aren't scum) I want you to apologize. I'm not scum at all and every time I've tried to talk to you, you try to tilt me. After being basically absent all game as well.
I'm not scum but don't hold your breath for an apology, regardless of your alignment.
You've misconstrued and/or misunderstood everything I ever say to you. I say you asked a stupid question because you obviously either didn't understand what I was saying or chose to misrepresent it to fit your narrative of me being scum. I didn't call you stupid. But you did directly decide to curse at me and continually claim I'm trying to tilt you, when the first time was a simple question YOU misunderstood and this time was YOU misunderstanding again. How is that MY fault?
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On January 07 2016 08:49 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2016 08:43 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 08:39 The Shining wrote:On January 07 2016 08:31 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 08:21 The Shining wrote:On January 07 2016 07:57 ExO_ wrote:On January 07 2016 07:51 The Shining wrote:On January 06 2016 23:01 nooniansoong wrote:On January 06 2016 15:22 The Shining wrote:
lol I love how according to everyone scumming me, I'm apparently bussing the rest of my team since I share a lot of your reads
lolololololololololololololololol I'm not interacting with you because we aren't on at the same time. At this point in the game scum has to bus. Scum is going to have a scumlist that has mostly scum with one or two town thrown in there, just because many of the players left look very town. In the situation where I am scum, wouldn't I also be busing the rest of my team, according to you? I'm rarely on when anyone else but ppl like ritoky have no problem throwing questions out to me. If anything, doing so and not getting a response from me could make me more scummy for ignoring it or not reading thread. But you haven't done that. You're just content to let me sit there on your POE and hope someone pushes me so you can vote me and say "well he's in my POE, that's why I voted him" And yes, it's possible you'd be bussing some of your team but I'm not down to 4 ppl on my POE so it's possible I'm wrong on you or someone else. But you have me with 3 people I'm willing to lynch, implying you think you have the game solved alrdy. I'm not nearly that confident and idc about admitting that And why do you need questions thrown at you? Can you not offer anything without being asked about it? Can you follow context before you ask a stupid fucking question like this? I don't need questions thrown at me and I never said I did. What I'm saying is, kush claiming he hasn't interacted with me or asked me anything because we're not on at the same time when he has a scum read is bad because it means he just decided to scum me, whereas ritoky actually asked me something. I don't see the town motivation behind "I think he's scum but we're never here together so I'm not going to figure out anything about him or try to get information from him." Jesus Christ, fuck you dude. I'll ask whatever question I want when I want. If it's too fucking stupid for you then don't answer it Man, you get really angsty when you roll scum, holy shit. First HF, now me. Thanks for this. Way to deflect the fact that once again you've completely misunderstood what I've said to go into anger/defensive mode. There is no explanation for multiple outbursts like that if you're town. Maybe if you didn't misunderstand or misrepresent every fucking thing I say and immediately get defensive and whiny over it, you'd have had a shot at not giving yourself away, scum. After the game is over, (and if you aren't scum) I want you to apologize. I'm not scum at all and every time I've tried to talk to you, you try to tilt me. After being basically absent all game as well. I'm not scum but don't hold your breath for an apology, regardless of your alignment. You've misconstrued and/or misunderstood everything I ever say to you. I say you asked a stupid question because you obviously either didn't understand what I was saying or chose to misrepresent it to fit your narrative of me being scum. I didn't call you stupid. But you did directly decide to curse at me and continually claim I'm trying to tilt you, when the first time was a simple question YOU misunderstood and this time was YOU misunderstanding again. How is that MY fault?
if someone is continually misunderstanding you, it is not always entirely their fault there may be some fault in your communication as well. try rephrasing or saying it differently without insults or personal accusations because when you start using those people start reading emotionally or they continue reading but stop comprehending cuz emotions op. if they are still not getting it then it's on their end or intentional.
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