Its how he approaches the game he is much more intent on scum hunting and even going against popular opinion if he thinks he is right.

even tinfoiling excessively at points not so in scum games.

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

January 03 2016 06:15 GMT

#3462

On January 03 2016 14:56 ritoky wrote:
I am asking if you think I am mafia to both of you because I would like you to explain why I wasn't roleblocked when I was clearly trying to feign that I was shooting between damdred and onegu. Why is that shot allowed through if onegu is mafia?

No offense, but I don't know and I don't really care that much.
This isn't really relevant towards me at all.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

January 03 2016 06:27 GMT

#3463

On January 03 2016 15:15 Damdred wrote:
Its how he approaches the game he is much more intent on scum hunting and even going against popular opinion if he thinks he is right.

even tinfoiling excessively at points not so in scum games.

okay let me read some more of the town one then with this in mind.

Damdred

15669 Posts

January 03 2016 06:38 GMT

#3464

You also need to look at one of the recent games where he replaced in right before d2

Damdred

15669 Posts

January 03 2016 06:41 GMT

#3465

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=NocturneMage

replaced in after during n1

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

January 03 2016 06:48 GMT

#3466

wow that activity difference holy shit

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

January 03 2016 07:21 GMT

#3467

okay i think i understand this a bit now damdred. that second filter gave me a way better feel for the difference between scum and town. you're thinking that as town rather than he just off-handedly ask for people to tell him why they think palmar and slam are mafia he goes and seeks out people to make cases or goes and gets his read on them himself. the passivity and the lack of...."dog" in him isn't there. i think i feel you.

ritoky

United States6851 Posts

January 03 2016 07:27 GMT

#3468

obviously among other things such as actually doing things, having original thoughts, thread presence, and wanting questions answered/to be heard

Damdred

15669 Posts

January 03 2016 07:30 GMT

#3469

You got it I think. He really has it when he is town, really goes after the bone. But not ad scum

Damdred

15669 Posts

January 03 2016 07:33 GMT

#3470

Like look at his small filter here he has asked one question has no follow up and doesn't care any other town game he cares

Trfel

7015 Posts

January 03 2016 08:23 GMT

#3471

My point with regards to ObiWanShinobi earlier wasn't a scumread at all. It was a mental note to check something that is important.

I remember ObiWanShinobi not having many serious reads. On Day 2, he was scumreading Tictock (as was basically everyone else), and voting for Tictock. Then, when Holyflare said that he wanted to lynch boxerfred on Day 3, ObiWanShinobi said that he agreed with this.

ObiWanShinobi's last stance on boxerfred was a town lean, described in two separate posts. I was wondering what caused this change. He explained this change to be caused because he felt like he had to lynch someone who was being useless, even if he didn't necessarily think that they were scum. Or something like that, I can't look it up at this moment. This part isn't important, he's not scum for this statement IMO, but rather the context.

The motivation to lynch boxerfred may be there, but wasn't that high. If ObiWanShinobi had an actual scumread that he wanted to lynch, I would expect him to not want to lynch boxerfred to lynch his actual scumread instead. Day 3, so Tictock would already be lynched, and he wouldn't count. And the magnitude of this scumread would need to be judged versus the reason and explanation to scumread boxerfred, and see how they compare. And I'd need to double check the wording, perhaps ObiWanShinobi's agreement with Holyflare was more of consent than thinking it was the best option, as I read it initially.

Anyway. The Shining, I don't need to actually be present for you to tell me if my reads have any merit or not. My reads are summarized in my interpretation of the people who are commenting and existing without contributing or trying to solve the game. The details are more accurately explained in my list post about 24 hours ago. Unfortunately, because no one seems to care about my reads, I'm feeling like I'm probably just really wrong

I'd really, really, really appreciate some feedback, though.

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

January 03 2016 08:28 GMT

#3472

so i came back expecting some good discussion but it was mostly people trying to figure out ness whos going to be mod killed...

used your time better boys

Trfel

7015 Posts

January 03 2016 08:29 GMT

#3473

On January 03 2016 17:28 sicklucker wrote:
so i came back expecting some good discussion but it was mostly people trying to figure out ness whos going to be mod killed...

used your time better boys

Um, NocturneMage replaced in for N e s s.

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

January 03 2016 08:31 GMT

#3474

oh ness was replaced by that fucker

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

January 03 2016 08:32 GMT

#3475

idk maybe your reads good. maybe this thread is just dead compaired to the other game.
( this thread is pretty dead)

I dont like metaing replacements especially a player I have never played with before. too much variables but if i have nothing to read him off of you can lynch him and i wont even care

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

January 03 2016 08:36 GMT

#3476

Id rather not lynch onegu today but I dont care enough to defend it

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

January 03 2016 08:39 GMT

#3477

both slam and noct are pushing onegu. that probably means we should not kill onegu lol. And if ritoky is town his logic makes sense as to why they let him shoot. I think its far better to not lynch onegu today. Cop needs to check him tho since hes never getting nked

Trfel

7015 Posts

January 03 2016 08:40 GMT

#3478

Sicklucker, sorry I'm a bit distracted at the moment and am too lazy to read your filter.

Who do you currently want to lynch and why? And why don't you want to lynch nooniansoong/kushm4sta, Palmar, or ObiWanShinobi?

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

January 03 2016 08:45 GMT

#3479

im still open. I would lynch you/ritoky I would probably not defend anyone from getting lynched besides gb/obi/dandred.

I have no reads on all dandreds butt buddys noct/exo/shining so im just gonna let him run the show today.

Im that sure hes town he will make a better decision then me today probably

sicklucker

Canada16987 Posts

January 03 2016 08:47 GMT

#3480

While im on the subject im nominating dandred as the town mayor for the rest of the game. Hes never getting nked because he pretty much claimed vt for trying to take that role bullet.

He has my endorsement dont fuck up