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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 06 2016 14:35 GMT
#1181
On January 06 2016 23:24 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 23:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 06 2016 22:13 NocturneMage wrote:
GB in that argument said he was "confident" (paraphrasing) mderg was scum and made a previous argument on Onegu (now flipped town) that he is stating something that he cannot possibly believe in. This is a mafia indicative assertion.

The argument against GigyaS at that time was NK WIFOM.

In stating his scumreads GB votes GigyaS from the off when he had two reads with - in his view - stronger basis.

Why is what mderg did unfathomable/unbelievable/impossible/whatever word you want from a town perspective?


Why the Bolded is a Mafia indicative assertion? Explain to me how that assertion can't come from a town and why that assertion is a consequence of a scum mindset.


You misunderstood.

I'm not saying that was mafia indicative for you. You are making an assertion on Onegu that he cannot believe what he is possibly saying. The argument you are making on Onegu is a mafia indicative assertion on Onegu.


Ok, so?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 14:35 GMT
#1182
On January 06 2016 23:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 22:08 NocturneMage wrote:
On January 06 2016 21:10 Fidei86 wrote:
On January 06 2016 10:08 NocturneMage wrote:
Alright, that second point is bad. Wow.

I just don't understand this pov. GB said that he thought there was something to be gained by looking at Irish's scum reads. GB then accurately recited Irish's scum reads. Mderg then basically said that GB had done so in a misleading way. But mderg didn't follow up that point by saying "oh yeah you actually can tell something from the other reads Irish had". It isn't like he was trying to make a nuanced argument based on that point, he just shit on GB fullstop. And even if he had, it doesn't matter anyway because GB wasn't purporting to talk about all of Irish's reads in the first place. To me, that is mderg trying to scum GB for bad reasons, at best. And that is following on from his GB read which honestly has made no sense to me the entire game.


It wasn't the recitation of the scum reads that was a problem, it was how it was being used. I had the same problem. You're confusing use with intention. It wasn't confirming the scumreads, it was what he did with the Irish scumreads.

Those are two separate points.

And GB not purporting to talk.....he didn't need to.


What did I do that was wrong?

Why do townies get shot, NM?


Townies get shot for a few reasons. Blue hunting, impossible to mislynch, accuracy of reads are the top three I can think of.

If you are town, you cannot know why mafia shot Irishbound. The Irishbound kill was a night 1 kill. You looked at his reads. Fine.

By your own standards you admitted that your mderg read for whatever reason was stronger. By your own standards you made an argument on Onegu that he is saying something he couldn't possibly believe in (which again, to clarify, is mafia indicative for Onegu, not you). So the argument here is that your vote on GigyaS is misplaced and I'm also ignoring the fact that you read kush as town, because kush was mentioned in those reads and the same argument could be made even if you did scumread kush).
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 14:36 GMT
#1183
On January 06 2016 23:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 23:24 NocturneMage wrote:
On January 06 2016 23:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 06 2016 22:13 NocturneMage wrote:
GB in that argument said he was "confident" (paraphrasing) mderg was scum and made a previous argument on Onegu (now flipped town) that he is stating something that he cannot possibly believe in. This is a mafia indicative assertion.

The argument against GigyaS at that time was NK WIFOM.

In stating his scumreads GB votes GigyaS from the off when he had two reads with - in his view - stronger basis.

Why is what mderg did unfathomable/unbelievable/impossible/whatever word you want from a town perspective?


Why the Bolded is a Mafia indicative assertion? Explain to me how that assertion can't come from a town and why that assertion is a consequence of a scum mindset.


You misunderstood.

I'm not saying that was mafia indicative for you. You are making an assertion on Onegu that he cannot believe what he is possibly saying. The argument you are making on Onegu is a mafia indicative assertion on Onegu.


Ok, so?


That comment was in response to Fidei, how it relates to you is in my previous post.
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 14:37 GMT
#1184
And the reason it relates to Fidei is because he's making an assertion on mderg that I think is scummy and I think you should comment on that too.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 06 2016 14:42 GMT
#1185
On January 06 2016 23:28 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 23:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 06 2016 22:18 NocturneMage wrote:
Separate point - these comments were made at GB.

On December 31 2015 04:11 Onegu wrote:
Also meta doesnt work on me GB you have played with me long enough to know this. I purposely change how I play both alignments periodically so I cant be meta read. And the fact that you are trying to meta read me is complete garbage.


On January 03 2016 00:50 Onegu wrote:
GB not deciding to defend himself just saying it is a town case from kmatt is really telling.

And yes I will be tunneled on to fword dude and GB until they are dead, I am dead or it is lylo then I will reevaluate in lylo. Tunnel for now.


We know Onegu's flipped green, so at the very least these are honest. On the first one, I trust that players know their own meta and own methods of solving the game.


ROFL now you're just full of shit. So now that Onegu is town his "meta" on me is accurate? Give me a break m


No, this statement does not indicate he's metaing you. He's arguing that people should not meta him.

Those are two separate points.

The argument is not YOUR meta.

The statement is what YOU are doing about HIS meta.

What Onegu's flip does do here is show that his interpretion of his own reads on people is accurate.

The reason I brought that up was because I also want other people who know Onegu better to discuss this.


Last game I had a possible scum tell from Onegu. It was that he doesn't waste his vote when he is Mafia. And I saw it here. Check haunted mansion again if you don't believe me. I've clearly stated in one of my posts that I thought I had a tell on him. I think that was the game.

And my main reason to vote Onegu wasn't meta, it was that I thought he couldn't believe whst he was saying about the scum slip when Shapelog did the same thing and didn't get scum read by Onegu.

Are you sure you're reading my filter?
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 14:42 GMT
#1186
On January 06 2016 23:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 23:20 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 06 2016 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 06 2016 21:20 nooniansoong wrote:
Irish said he had to re-read and reasses therefore his scum reads were going to change


Reassessing scum reads doesn't mean he would drop them, necessarily. Why are you pushing this information so hard?

Um because it is your only current scumread with actual reasoning behind it. So I don't have a lot to push lol.

We can argue in vain about how sure he was about his reads. All we know is "reread and reasses" indicates he had some extent of doubt about his reads. That doubt was not acknowledged by you and it makes your reasoning for voting gigyas that much weaker.

People have answered your questions. You have done nothing with the answers. I'd like you to make some content other than defending yourself.
You could give your thoughts about fidei's case since that seems to be the hot topic right now.


NO

IT DOESN'T MAKE IT WEAKER

BECAUSE REASSESSING DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN DROPPING

And as soon as people told me I was WIFOM I've reevaluated and dropped it.

Now I'm conscious about Giygas and I think he looks scummy for all the reasons I've brouhht AND IF YOU THINK I'M PUSHING GIYGAS BECAUSE OF THE NIGHTKILL YOU ARE NOT READING MY FUCKING POSTS


Okay, let's ignore the nightkill argument on GigyaS.

Let's break this down and let's start with his latest vote on you and your explanation on him.

On January 06 2016 12:39 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't admit that. I admit that Irish was killed because he was looking townie. Which doesn't mean Mafia didn't think he was also a danger to the team while scum reading Giygas.

But the reason I scum read Giygas is that it is already day3 and I know nothing about his reads. He is not engaged, he is not investigating. He is here, comes by and do nothing. There is something in particular: he decided to vote me last day. After asking me questions that I answered and made him say "oh yes you're right you already said that". What I mean is that, from our interaction, you can see that he had a suspicion on something about me and when proved wrong, he backtracked. Therefore, it basically means he dropped his suspicions on me. Why voting me, then? It came out of the blue.

Then Gyigas voted Onegu. Again, what under Giygas POV makes him switch to Onegu's wagon? Basically, me and Onegu are never partners for the way we've pushed each other. So if Giygas actually was scum reading me, how come he switches to Onegu?


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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 14:43 GMT
#1187
pfffff hold on, I hit post too early.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 06 2016 14:46 GMT
#1188
On January 06 2016 23:20 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 23:12 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 06 2016 21:20 nooniansoong wrote:
Irish said he had to re-read and reasses therefore his scum reads were going to change


Reassessing scum reads doesn't mean he would drop them, necessarily. Why are you pushing this information so hard?

Um because it is your only current scumread with actual reasoning behind it. So I don't have a lot to push lol.

We can argue in vain about how sure he was about his reads. All we know is "reread and reasses" indicates he had some extent of doubt about his reads. That doubt was not acknowledged by you and it makes your reasoning for voting gigyas that much weaker.

People have answered your questions. You have done nothing with the answers. I'd like you to make some content other than defending yourself.
You could give your thoughts about fidei's case since that seems to be the hot topic right now.


People didn't answer all the questions, in still waiting for Giygas to answer my. I couldn't care for Kmatt's answer because I saw nothing malicious in it
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 06 2016 14:47 GMT
#1189
I'm getting interrupted at work. GlowingBear, I want to pick up at post 1186 when I return.

How much longer are you around?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 06 2016 14:55 GMT
#1190
On January 06 2016 23:47 NocturneMage wrote:
I'm getting interrupted at work. GlowingBear, I want to pick up at post 1186 when I return.

How much longer are you around?


Not longer, like 1 hours from now. Then I'll work and I won't be here by deadline
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
January 06 2016 15:10 GMT
#1191
Vote Count - Day 3


GlowingBear (5): NocturneMage, GiygaS, Kmatt, nooniansoong, mderg
mderg (2): Fecalfeast, Fidei86

Not Voting (1): GlowingBear

At this time, GlowingBear is slated to be lynched.
Day 3 ends in on Wednesday, Jan 06 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 06 2016 15:11 GMT
#1192
On January 06 2016 12:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 04:48 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 06 2016 04:46 GlowingBear wrote:
On January 06 2016 04:43 nooniansoong wrote:
On January 03 2016 00:38 GlowingBear wrote:
There's a reason Irish is dead and I'm not. The reason is that he was probably right at least for one of his scum reads.

His scum reads were kush/Giygas/Scott. Scott is dead, I think kush is more likely to be town. So I'm voting Giygas because I simply have no reason to town read him.

That gigantic post from Kmatt probably makes him town. If I had a wrong scum read, it is him. I keep my scumread on mderg and Onegu, tho.

To be fair, I'm pretty confident we hit a Mafia on mderg. But considering the night kill we should probably kill Giygas first.


1 At the end of the day he said he needed to reasses his scumteam. So why would scum kill him for reads he didn't even have anymore?
2 Did you consider that scum killed him because he looked town?


1) because he was universally town read. His approach to the game was also very experienced. He is a better player than most of veterans in these forums already.

2) Of course? Why else would scum kill him? Do you think scum was blue hunting since the beginning?


ok so why do you think it's a good idea to base your scumread of gigyas on his if you admit that's not why he was killed.


I don't admit that. I admit that Irish was killed because he was looking townie. Which doesn't mean Mafia didn't think he was also a danger to the team while scum reading Giygas.

But the reason I scum read Giygas is that it is already day3 and I know nothing about his reads. He is not engaged, he is not investigating. He is here, comes by and do nothing. There is something in particular: he decided to vote me last day. After asking me questions that I answered and made him say "oh yes you're right you already said that". What I mean is that, from our interaction, you can see that he had a suspicion on something about me and when proved wrong, he backtracked. Therefore, it basically means he dropped his suspicions on me. Why voting me, then? It came out of the blue.

Then Gyigas voted Onegu. Again, what under Giygas POV makes him switch to Onegu's wagon? Basically, me and Onegu are never partners for the way we've pushed each other. So if Giygas actually was scum reading me, how come he switches to Onegu?



ok let me look into this
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 06 2016 15:22 GMT
#1193
what do you think, nm?

GB's point against giygas does seem legitimate.
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 06 2016 15:28 GMT
#1194
While I can't pin the vote switch yesterday as being inherently scummy, the fact that GiygaS skirted by for so long with so little contribution to the thread is troubling. I've only got about 20 minutes before I head out for the rest of this day phase (curse you Wednesday morning shifts) so if anyone has anything to run by me I need to hear it and now. If my math is right another mislynch today and we're six kinds of screwed. Not that I doubt my reads but I want to be as sure as possible since I can't respond to any shenanigans.
We CAN have nice things
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 06 2016 15:30 GMT
#1195
i have a townread on giygas though.
I can empathize with this chain of posts. It's got all the right details that point to townie trying to figure out the game, especially his PoE consideration.
Also the fact that giygas had an activity drop off in his last towngame so that is nai.

On January 06 2016 15:16 GiygaS wrote:
I'm back. I'm honestly really frustrated because I can't figure out what the fuck is going on. I read for hours last night and nothing came out of it cause when I thought somebody was scum I would convince myself on second look that they were very possibly town. GB vote this morning was just because I woke up late for work and honestly thought day ended today for some reason. I just want to slam my fucking head in to this fucking keyboard until I can figure out how the fuck to play this game. Now I'm thinking that it's possible that GB is town, in which case fdei making a chainsaw defense means absolutely nothing.

On January 06 2016 15:18 GiygaS wrote:
I voted you GB and then switched because I knew that you were unlikely to be mafia together, but I couldn't figure out which of you was mafia out of the two, since I had it in my head that since there were only two people being voted for in such a close margin that it was likely there was a mafia in the two.

On January 06 2016 17:16 GiygaS wrote:
Like I'm right that fdei's post could easily be from a town if GB is town right? Chainsaw is only a scumtell if the person they are defending is scum. But then who's scum? I have solid town reads on noon, kmatt and nm. Which means I'm wrong about one of those people or the scum team is 3 of GB, fdei, ff and mderg. Makes a lot more sense for the first 3 to be a scum team than the last one to be on a team with GB and fdei after fdei's post.

Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 06 2016 15:33 GMT
#1196
Kind of the same feeling here. I think more of my claim to him isn't so much being maliciously scummy, but just not very good town play. We've already had two mislynches for lazy/questionable town play, so I'd feel much better going against an actively scummy target this time.
We CAN have nice things
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
January 06 2016 15:37 GMT
#1197
GB is really good scum though so I would say it's quite possible he made that case against giygas as scum.

PoE leaves GB, fidei, FF.

So I guess I'll leave my vote on GB but I'm going into this lynch pretty shakey.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 06 2016 15:46 GMT
#1198
Well, lynch me today
When I flip town lynch my scum reads

They are Giygas/mderg/?

Also remember what I said on NM before

I'm getting ready to work and I'll be AFK during the entire day.

I hope you guys do the right thing. If you don't, do NOT ignore my reads.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 06 2016 15:47 GMT
#1199
On January 07 2016 00:28 Kmatt wrote:
While I can't pin the vote switch yesterday as being inherently scummy, the fact that GiygaS skirted by for so long with so little contribution to the thread is troubling. I've only got about 20 minutes before I head out for the rest of this day phase (curse you Wednesday morning shifts) so if anyone has anything to run by me I need to hear it and now. If my math is right another mislynch today and we're six kinds of screwed. Not that I doubt my reads but I want to be as sure as possible since I can't respond to any shenanigans.


Argh this post isn't good.

Guys lynch me, I can't deal with this thing of not being able to decide if Kmatt is town or Mafia
I'm adorable.
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
January 06 2016 15:48 GMT
#1200
What's wrong with my post?
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