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Fidei86
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On January 02 2016 23:30 nooniansoong wrote: Do not clap for a wall of text lol. Kush you here? What do you think about Kmatt's post? Ithe thing that stands out to me is the hyper aggressive tone. Its kind of a change from his D1. Now you have to read it too  | ||
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Fidei86
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On January 02 2016 23:58 nooniansoong wrote: Fidei.I didn't read it. I skimmed it and it confirms my newb town read. Yes it's aggressive in tone which I think is town coming from a newer player. He seems to believe what he's saying. Except town does do all those things he said town doesn't do. So I don't think it's a good case. I don't think being aggressive in reads is necessarily newb town, especially when that townie has previously been kinda meek. Ehhhh. I really want to hear from Shining and Alex (NM) before I update all my reads. I'll quickly read GB's filter a bit to see if I can get a handle on it. That said, the fact that Onegu is so happy to jump onto GB for literally the flimsiest reasons I've ever seen make me more sure that Onegu is scum, which makes it unlikely GB is with him. But, associative reads, I get it. | ||
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Fidei86
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1. His early reads were mostly town reads and were short, but that fits in with him being in another game. Kmatt puts a lot of emphasis on that in his case, but it's NAI if anything. In my mind it's more towny than anything as he would find it harder to walk back if he needed for a ML. 2. My experience of playing GB is that he struggles to maintain calm when he plays as scum. In the game we played together, he was much more acerbic and less flexible with his reads. He's different here - note #736 where he re-evaluates on Kmatt. GB is an experienced player who probably could change up his meta, but I think he's probably town. He's not the lynch today for sure. | ||
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Fidei86
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On January 03 2016 00:55 mderg wrote: I don't like this post at all. You're simply using his reads to vote without giving it any real thought. You're also ignoring pretty much all of his other reads this game. That's not town play. ##vote GB I'm going to go look at Irish's filter now, to check. GB's recap looks right to me, but best to be sure. | ||
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Fidei86
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He sets out his reads at #427, which are: Scott scum NM town GB town Kush scum mderg town Kmatt town Fidei null Shape town Gigya scum Onegu null/town Not really sure which reads you think GB missed out mderg? Gonna check your filter now for your progression on GB. | ||
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##vote: Onegu | ||
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On January 04 2016 08:19 Kmatt wrote: Okay so all things considered that last 10 minutes were pure bull. I'll admit I might have been having a bit of fun with my write-up. Still, there's one point I'd like to have explained by anyone at this point. I could tag most any of his quoted posts as being anti-town, but my biggest issue (which I'm honestly surprised that it seems to be overlooked) is right here: (For context, he was voting on me day1) Now what in the hell was this. GB Believes me to be scum GB Asserts that Scott is town GB Declares that he would not lynch Scott over a stronger scumread (me) GB Drops his vote on a scumread(me) to intentionally vote Scott who he believed to be town, not because he believed Scott was scum, but because Scott was going to vote Onegu, who GB claimed he had a stronger townread on. Nevermind that Onegu had 0 votes to Scott's leading 4 at the time of the post. At least the other people on Scott's wagon claimed he was scum. GB doesn't even pretend to believe that. And we all know how that ended. That entire logic train leading to the vote switch was entirely anti-town. Just skimming through Kmatt's filter and this post really stands out to me. This is just a fucking bizarre argument to me. At the time when GB voted he was the only voter on you, and there were 4 on scott and three on me. It was EOD and there was a pretty heavily contested lynch. It would be MUCH scummier for GB to have AFK'd through the day and just taken the lynch on Onegu or me (both town). Instead, he consolidated onto Scott, who he thought was more scummy than me. I don't understand the confusion? Isn't that super towny? | ||
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On January 05 2016 21:22 nooniansoong wrote: Ok I think I changed my mind about gb. More later From your filter I think you were town reading him before? So now you're scum reading him? | ||
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On January 05 2016 23:28 nooniansoong wrote: I see you defending GB a lot, but I don't see you putting forth good reasons to vote mderg/gigya/kmatt. Yeah I'm phone posting at work this evening. I'm hoping my TL will be working from home tonight and I can get into it. The short answer is Gigya has offered no content, mderg has been entirely responsive and reactive, and KMatt's tunnel on GB is getting very fishy. But I really want to double check those with filters because I might be getting too tunnelled myself. | ||
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Fidei86
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His first read on GB makes no sense At #237 he notes that people are quick to jump on GB, for reasons that he agrees with "his opening was fishy", but he doesn't like it because it "feels too easy". So the opening is scummy, but people pointing that out is fishy? Huh? His second read on GB is based on a falsity Day 2 he votes GB initially (#741) for absolutely shit reasons - GB quoted Irish's reads accurately, and tried to do some NK WIFOM. Mderg then said that GB had NOT given Irish's reads correctly (which GB had) and voted for him. When called out on it, he tried to say that GB had cherry picked votes, which he HADN'T. This is just a read based on a factual innaccuracy, but instead of admitting the mistake, he doubles down. He parrots other people's reasons for voting His Scott vote at #455 was for reasons that had already been set out by others (set out helpfully by Irish at #441). On top of that, he also says that he's going to "park his vote" there, which is pretty scummy as it indicates a lack of conviction and looks to be leaving himself room to change later. He doesn't actually change his vote, despite not really saying anything about scott through the rest of the day. When he finally explained his GB read after the #741 issue, he basically just summarised what people had said previously about GB. Then at #815 he calls out Kmatt's case, but says that he agrees with some of it and that GB is scum anyway. His posts are responsive and reactive. Most of his posts throughout his filter are responses to other posts. It's a classic scum technique of appearing active, while actually not contributing anything. See, for example, #599, #587, although really most of his filter fits the pattern. His only long posts have come recently, and they seem to have mostly been an explanation of his own play in past games ... big help. LYNCH mderg. Please. ##vote: mderg | ||
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On January 03 2016 00:55 mderg wrote: I don't like this post at all. You're simply using his reads to vote without giving it any real thought. You're also ignoring pretty much all of his other reads this game. That's not town play. ##vote GB This is your post. So it's not so much that you said that the reads were wrong, but that they were misleading. I just don't see how you could think that. GB posted all of Irish's scum reads, which was the basis of GB's post. | ||
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On January 06 2016 07:49 mderg wrote: I feel like you're arguing about semantics. Of course he wrote down Irish's reads but he simply listed them down and picked the one that was more suitable for him. That was the point of his post - discussing Irish's scum reads.. | ||
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